Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-15 Thread mike
Well missed it...but not THAT much. heh Mike On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Definately true, tagging across the board isn't around on windows. I know > >this is one of the things I missed going to windows from mac. > > Since you mention the Mac... >

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-15 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Definately true, tagging across the board isn't around on windows. I know >this is one of the things I missed going to windows from mac. Since you mention the Mac... The Mac offers extensive meta tagging capabilities and an API for working with tags. To make tags truly effective we also need a

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-14 Thread mike
Definately true, tagging across the board isn't around on windows. I know this is one of the things I missed going to windows from mac. Mike On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >MS supported tagging on images in this regard since at least 2000. Not > sure

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>It may be old school, but it works for me. A good place to get used to the benefits of tagging is Gmail. After you get used to that I expect you will want more. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, arch

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>And that really sucks when you shoot in a raw mode too. Save your RAW pics in DNG format to preserve all the RAW data and get tagging. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-14 Thread Tom Piwowar
>MS supported tagging on images in this regard since at least 2000. Not sure >how they are a spoiler. That would be 15 years too late for image files. When did they start supporting meta tages on all file types? * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-14 Thread Larry Sacks
>What was this program? I assumed this would be like mp3 >tagging...universal. > >Mike Sorry... I don't even recall. I'll have to see if I can find out what it was called. Larry * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-14 Thread Larry Sacks
>This is the old school method of file saving, and it's quite >inefficient, and needs to go. While I'll miss it myself, I know there >are better ways and I'm determined to learn them. It may be old school, but it works for me. Although your example is something that I don't do. Maybe I'm just n

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-13 Thread mike
MS supported tagging on images in this regard since at least 2000. Not sure how they are a spoiler. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >But you're right, currently only the jpeg format offers tagging, and > >some apps will gleefully strip the tags and other

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-13 Thread mike
I've run a few tests with picasa to see about how metadata is kept and or stripped out. Using picasa 3 beta, I can create tags on images on my vista ultimate machine and then transfer only the images, not the folder containing the images to another system using picasa 3 beta and running xp pro and

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-13 Thread Richard P.
Today's Washington Post has a small review comparing Picasa and Elements latest programs: Photo Programs Add Tools but Still Need Sharpening http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/12/AR2008111202651.html?nav=rss_technology Richard P. > Today I got a brief demo from a clie

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-12 Thread mike
Adobe Photoshop Album starter Edition was basically rolled into Elements. You can still download 3.2 from Adobe. Album starter does look pretty good, multiple tags for each picture, ability to search multiple tags, this feature doesn't seem to exist on picasa and is needed. Good tip, Elements was

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-12 Thread Tom Piwowar
>That's what I do. I don't always tag photos - I stopped using one program >a few years back and it's tags didn't move along with the photos. Need to pay close attention to the tags that are included in EXIF and those that are not. Even doing this you need to note which crappy programs strip o

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-12 Thread Tom Piwowar
Today I got a brief demo from a client of Adobe Elements and Photoshop.com (about $75 including 1 year "plus" membership in Photoshop.com). He said Elements used to be just a lower-cost and stripped-down version of Photoshop, but now with its picture sorting and tagging capabilities it is a st

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-12 Thread Tom Piwowar
>But you're right, currently only the jpeg format offers tagging, and >some apps will gleefully strip the tags and other metadata without >warning! This is why I wish MS would get off their butts and just make >it a part of the file system itself. If you are looking for innovation, you would be be

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-12 Thread db
That's the problem with tagging I think. (I am not sure about this...). You can do a lot of work that in one way or another is essentially not migratable... The problem of proprietary solutions... I myself would be interested in hearing from someone more knowledgeable re: the current state of

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-12 Thread mike
Well I'd settle for just tagging from within one program. What I am worried about is if I spend hours tagging in picasa...are the photos tagged or just the library info? So if I lose my HD, my pics are backed up but are the tags? I'll have to run a test. Mike On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 2:25 PM, d

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-12 Thread db
The problem with tagging is, like all other aspects of technology etc, that until everyone agrees on a shared spec/ protocol/ system and supports it, you have no way to tag that is portable/ universally usable. I haven't checked recently ... in the last couple of years ...but I don't think w

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-12 Thread Tony B
This is the old school method of file saving, and it's quite inefficient, and needs to go. While I'll miss it myself, I know there are better ways and I'm determined to learn them. Specifically: In this system, a photo of Uncle George's wedding in 2008 must be duplicated several times. One copy go

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-12 Thread mike
What was this program? I assumed this would be like mp3 tagging...universal. Mike On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Larry Sacks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's what I do. I don't always tag photos - I stopped using one program > a few years back and it's tags didn't move along with t

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-12 Thread Larry Sacks
>> My wife is interested in tagging her 10k + pics of kids and vacation >> photos. I'm looking for an easy to use app to do so and perhaps also >>work >> as a good viewer. Picasa comes to mind..type a tag into the search field >> and all related pics show up? Anyone have any experience dealing

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-08 Thread db
Also Bulk Rename Utility and CoffeeCup Pix Converter db b_s-wilk wrote: > My wife is interested in tagging her 10k + pics of kids and vacation > photos. I'm looking for an easy to use app to do so and perhaps also work > as a good viewer. Picasa comes to mind..type a tag into the search fie

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-07 Thread b_s-wilk
> My wife is interested in tagging her 10k + pics of kids and vacation > photos. I'm looking for an easy to use app to do so and perhaps also work > as a good viewer. Picasa comes to mind..type a tag into the search field > and all related pics show up? Anyone have any experience dealing with

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-07 Thread b_s-wilk
If your digital camera has GPS, Picasa automatically tags the location. You can manually do so also. I take a photo of a sign or shop that has a location or some reminder of where the photos are. When I get to a new location, I find another marker. When I'm desperate and there's no town na

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-07 Thread Tom Piwowar
>That's the idea behind tagging. Specifically, to store items by tag, rather >than by folder. But there's no way she's going to sit and manually tag >10,000 pics. There's no 'automatic' way to tag, because the software doesn't >know if that's Uncle George or which vacation it was. Yes, automatic t

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-07 Thread Tony B
True. And perhaps one day in the future if all cameras embed a standard GPS tag this will be useful for future pics. But it won't help tag all those old photos. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:13 AM, db <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If your digital camera has GPS, Picasa automatically tags the location.

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-06 Thread db
If your digital camera has GPS, Picasa automatically tags the location. You can manually do so also. Dan Tony B wrote: I _did_ say *yet*. I don't use Picasa (or any program that doesn't make it clear where my pictures are), but from what I understand, all it does is suggest tags for new pic

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-06 Thread mike
Picasa is like iTunes, your pictures or your music are where you want them if you choose to know. Mike On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I _did_ say *yet*. I don't use Picasa (or any program that doesn't make it > clear where my pictures are), but from what I un

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-06 Thread Tony B
I _did_ say *yet*. I don't use Picasa (or any program that doesn't make it clear where my pictures are), but from what I understand, all it does is suggest tags for new pics, it doesn't offer to go through your drive and tag old pictures. That would be nice. But of course, the names of the people

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-06 Thread Chris Dunford
> There's no 'automatic' way to tag, because the > software doesn't know if that's Uncle George or > which vacation it was. Actually, Picasa does know if it's Uncle George. It's obviously not completely reliable, but it works better than I expected. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/02/picasa-r

Re: [CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-06 Thread Tony B
That's the idea behind tagging. Specifically, to store items by tag, rather than by folder. But there's no way she's going to sit and manually tag 10,000 pics. There's no 'automatic' way to tag, because the software doesn't know if that's Uncle George or which vacation it was. Presumably though, i

[CGUYS] tagging photos

2008-11-06 Thread mike
My wife is interested in tagging her 10k + pics of kids and vacation photos. I'm looking for an easy to use app to do so and perhaps also work as a good viewer. Picasa comes to mind..type a tag into the search field and all related pics show up? Anyone have any experience dealing with tagging th