JK on UB...
Taking the lead on broadband
http://www.berkshireeagle.com/ci_14725748?source=most_emailed
Internet access is a powerful economic equalizer. Expanding high
speed Internet access will create jobs and improve educational
opportunities in our libraries and community colleges across
PROBLEM is there have emerged competitors to nationalized TV,phone,net service
(Belgacom) but not available for all 3 outside population areas ...still stuck
with Belgacom ...wifi 3g also only in population areas or else I would gladly
dispense with cable internet and use wifi ...too bad. All
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:54 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Internet access is a powerful economic equalizer. Expanding high speed
Internet access will create jobs and improve educational opportunities in
our libraries and community colleges across the state. And I'm convinced
that modern
rleesimon escribió:
PROBLEM is there have emerged competitors to nationalized TV,phone,net service
(Belgacom) but not available for all 3 outside population areas ...still stuck
with Belgacom ...wifi 3g also only in population areas or else I would gladly
dispense with cable internet and use
It used to be that ONE person in a zip code having access to high speed net,
made the whole zip code accessible. I think this was changed in the last
few years as it should have been, I'm in an area said to be covered but only
have access to 1.3mbit, I don't consider that broadband, I had 6mbit
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:15 PM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
IMAGINE that for $33 a month you could buy Internet service twice as fast
as what you get from Verizon or Comcast, bundled with digital
high-definition television, unlimited long distance and international
calling to 70
Cellular internet in Belgium is around $90/mo and only around major cities
do you get 3g ...the land line internet is around $60/mo with basic TV
(around 50 channels) and is DSL speed ...not that fast ...it is transited
over the phone lines ...now they are saying it is bumped to 4down1up for
only
At 03:36 PM 3/15/2010, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Anyone want to talk about New Orleans and the aftermath of Katrina. (Problems
essentially caused by fouled up Corps of Engineers projects.)
And substantially all of those foul-ups were caused by lack of Congressional
appropriations to fund
rleesimon rleesi...@gmail.com escribió:
Cellular internet in Belgium is around $90/mo and only around major cities
do you get 3g ...the land line internet is around $60/mo with basic TV
(around 50 channels) and is DSL speed ...not that fast ...it is transited
over the phone lines ...now they
My in-laws in Canada do the same thing. Prepaid.
Stewart
At 10:50 PM 3/21/2010, you wrote:
I can get a prepaid SIM card for 3G data from Vodafone in Spain, 250
MB, 29 euros; 400 MB, 49 euros. Fits in phone or PC card adapter for
notebooks. Good for basic surfing while traveling. For phones
NYT explains a lot about what is wrong with broadband in the US...
Ending the Internet’s Trench Warfare
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/opinion/21Benkler.html
IMAGINE that for $33 a month you could buy Internet service twice as
fast as what you get from Verizon or Comcast, bundled with
On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
My wife and I had a very volatile discussion last night as she
thinks it is unfair that I serve a group that does not see my worth
or pay me accordingly and expect me to do all the work.
Wives are generally very good at telling the
Vocation is a concept of calling, not indentured servitude.
Problem is in this day and age those vacancies are fewer and farther
between, and do not offer a substantial increase.
We have over 6000 units (congregations) of various sizes. (Episcopal
church is similar)
At present we have
On Mar 17, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
So that is why we had such a volatile conversation. I have no where
to go, so I must make this situation work!
That is part of what Vocation is about. Working where you are and
doing the best possible job you can. No matter what.
On Mar 16, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Everyone likes to interpret data to their advantage. This list has
been full of it over the years.
No. These days we have people who are shamelessly willing to invent
their own reality.
See today's NYT...
The New Rove-Cheney
On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Totally unfair criticism.
No more unfair than what you wrote about government.
This morning as I switched on NPR I was assaulted by an idiot
screaming Medicare is bankrupt, everything the government does is
bankrupt.
Maybe the
The Government *is* an insane asylum.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:00 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Maybe the government should be building more insane asylums?
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Technically it is.
I read a story this week, that stated that SS would start paying out
more than it brought in.
That is the definition of bankruptcy.
As far as I know Medicare has been paying out more than it brings in
every year.
However since it is a government benefit they pay it all
Over the years our government has gone to even more believing it's their
money and not our money, one congressman or senator recently talked about
how they (congress) were giving us more rights (he was talking about
healthcare)...no one even bothered to tell him we aren't given our rights by
him
On Mar 17, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Technically it is.
I read a story this week, that stated that SS would start paying out
more than it brought in.
That is the definition of bankruptcy.
It's that time travel thing again. They are not, but they will,
therefore they
Glad to hear that Tom, problem is not many people live in your
version of reality.
Stewart
At 05:05 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:
It's that time travel thing again. They are not, but they will,
therefore they are. Just not in my version of reality.
Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_social_security_ious
I know Tom will come up with some Obama is God or something about right wing
nuts or neomicrosofticon plot...but this is from the AP. Indeed...paying
more out than they bring in.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:05 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On
You same story I read.
Medicare was never meant to be like SS where you have some supposed
account set up and it pays out so much.
It was always funded out of current expenses.
Stewart
At 05:42 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_social_security_ious
I know Tom will
In NJ, the build-out of FIOS must by regulation be done on a central
office (CO) by central office basis - if they want to serve the
customers in a particular area, they must offer to serve ALL the
customers in that serving central office. i.e. if you are in the
998-321 office area, and
On Mar 17, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Glad to hear that Tom, problem is not many people live in your
version of reality.
Following your logic, since we will all be dead, we are dead. So we
might as well step off the cliff now.
Your thought process is just not a way to
On Mar 17, 2010, at 6:42 PM, mike wrote:
I know Tom will come up with some Obama is God or something about
right wing
nuts or neomicrosofticon plot...but this is from the AP.
Indeed...paying
more out than they bring in.
This assertion, while consistent with your totally nutty logic, isn't
Notify the booby hatch in the area in which the author lives...I'm sure they
will pick the guy up for spreading truths.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:54 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Mar 17, 2010, at 6:42 PM, mike wrote:
I know Tom will come up with some Obama is God or something about right
I don't give advice on how to live. I leave that for Dear Abby.
Ever wonder why they put astrology stuff on the same page or next to
the comics?
One reality we cannot escape today we live tomorrow we shall die.
We just don't know when tomorrow will come.
Stewart
At 05:53 PM 3/17/2010, you
Comics are REAL TOO??
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:
Ever wonder why they put astrology stuff on the same page or next to the
comics?
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Stewart
At 06:21 PM 3/17/2010, you wrote:
Comics are REAL TOO??
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:
Ever wonder why they put astrology stuff on the same page or next to the
comics?
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:
As far as I know Medicare has been paying out more than it brings in every
year.
Hey, wouldn't those Death Panels take care of that problem?
Steve
Heyyou are right! Waitaminute here!
We'll all be better off with Emanuel's complete lives system anyhoo.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:37 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:
As far as I know
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Stewart Marshall
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:
If memory and my history books are correct this has been a problem for eons.
Perhaps this is a problem for us, but not for them. After all, we
are here to serve them, are we not, or did your history book
On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
Tom most governmental positions that are not controlled by Civil
Service law are filled with pols frat boys and sorority sisters.
That happens when traitors and terrorists who hate government get
elected. I have been through several
On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:54 PM, mike wrote:
Those environmental policies of
leaving nice highly flammable dead wood and brush year after year
really
helped us get some good fires in.
You comment shows that you do not understand the issue. One more thing
you know little about.
At 12:11 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote:
That happens when traitors and terrorists who hate government get
elected. I have been through several such cycles while living here in
the Capitol. When people get elected who believe that government can
make an important difference the results are quite
Steve if I read Zinn correctly he would say all governmental services
are supposed to be that, for service.
The problem is, once any thing becomes institutionalized it takes on
a life of its own, and you soon must serve the institution, not the client.
It is indeed sad.
When you try to
Howard Zinn also favored using history as a tool for directing social values
even at the expense of truth.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:
Steve if I read Zinn correctly he would say all governmental services are
supposed to be that,
He would not have been the first nor only one. It is sad, but with
the flaw of human nature our selfish nature usually gets in the way.
Stewart
At 06:04 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote:
Howard Zinn also favored using history as a tool for directing social values
even at the expense of truth.
Rev.
Correct...I suppose we should admire him for his honesty in telling everyone
he'll lie to get his ends.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:
He would not have been the first nor only one. It is sad, but with the
flaw of human nature our selfish
Everyone likes to interpret data to their advantage. This list has
been full of it over the years.
Data is simply data. Remember the old saying statistics lie? Well
they do not really lie they just say what your research wanted it to say.
I live in Alabama (well we make the news a lot
Considering how frequently unintended consequences of regulation (when we
have yet to see any true problems with the current internet system) wreak
havoc on things I don't see the rush to go into giving FCC the power over
the internet. It is non-centralized at the core, and we should keep it that
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:38 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
Considering how frequently unintended consequences of regulation (when we
have yet to see any true problems with the current internet system) wreak
havoc on things I don't see the rush to go into giving FCC the power over
the
On 03/15/2010 02:38 AM, mike wrote:
Considering how frequently unintended consequences of regulation (when we
have yet to see any true problems with the current internet system) wreak
havoc on things I don't see the rush to go into giving FCC the power over
the internet. It is non-centralized
This implies there is no cost of government provided services in the real
world.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:20 AM, Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com wrote:
The US disdain for government provided services has a cost in the real
world.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com wrote:
The US disdain for government provided services has a cost in the real
world.
I have been under the belief that there have been proposals put
forth providing for federal subsidies to be used to help pay for costs
The US disdain for government provided services has a cost in the real
world.
This implies there is no cost of government provided services in the real
world.
No, it doesn't. It states that there's a cost, typically unacknowledged, of NOT
having the services. There's no implication that
On Mar 15, 2010, at 1:16 PM, mike wrote:
This implies there is no cost of government provided services in the
real
world.
Not by a long shot. But this is yet another great example of how your
faulty logic leads to absurd conclusions.
On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Art Clemons wrote:
The US disdain for government provided services has a cost in the real
world.
I suspect these woefully ignorant wing nuts have no idea who paid for
the development of the Internet.
I didn't mean cost as in some monthly bill, i meant in the larger scheme.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote:
The US disdain for government provided services has a cost in the real
world.
This implies there is no cost of government provided services
On Mar 15, 2010, at 1:34 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
I have been under the belief that there have been proposals put
forth providing for federal subsidies to be used to help pay for costs
associated with increasing broadband internet penetration into
currently unserved or under served areas
I didn't mean cost as in some monthly bill, i meant in the larger scheme.
I didn't mean that either, and it still didn't imply what you said...
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On Mar 15, 2010, at 2:22 PM, mike wrote:
I didn't mean cost as in some monthly bill, i meant in the larger
scheme.
You mean like being in the state of grace is a bad thing.
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Considering how frequently unintended consequences of regulation (when we
have yet to see any true problems with the current internet system) wreak
havoc on things I don't see the rush to go into giving FCC the power over
the internet. It is non-centralized at the core, and we should keep it that
Sorry, some of us actually like the Contsitution.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:06 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
The stupidest and one of the most dangerous comments by any recent
president was by Ronnie Raygun when he said, The nine most terrifying words
in the English language are:
The problem is sometimes it is true.
Anyone want to talk about New Orleans and the aftermath of
Katrina. (Problems essentially caused by fouled up Corps of
Engineers projects.)
Now I am not saying that they always mess up, but when they do it
tends to be spectacular.
Stewart
At 02:06
This implies there is no cost of government provided services in the real
world.
No. That's a big DUH!
Of course there are costs to government services, but consider this.
How much of your income is disposable income? In countries with free
democratic socialist governments like Sweden or
On 03/15/2010 01:16 PM, mike wrote:
This implies there is no cost of government provided services in the real
world.
No, I stated that there is a cost to disdaining government being
involved in the provision of services. You're trying to produce a
binary situation where there isn't one.
Not
On Mar 15, 2010, at 3:20 PM, mike wrote:
Sorry, some of us actually like the Contsitution.
Expressing a preference over Charmin?
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I never said I could spell
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Mar 15, 2010, at 3:20 PM, mike wrote:
Sorry, some of us actually like the Contsitution.
Expressing a preference over Charmin?
The problem is sometimes it is true.
Careful, now Mike is going to say that this implies that it's never not true.
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Don't misquote the jab. I never said never..
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote:
The problem is sometimes it is true.
Careful, now Mike is going to say that this implies that it's never not
true.
Wing nuts want to provide broad band via those stinkin' ugly wires around
all over the place. Finally, all that hardware gets jammed up with every
neighbor downloadin' his daily dose of porn. The way to get broadband out
is multivalent approaches where some get wires, some get over the electric
Don't blame it all on wingnuts.
I lived in LA for years. NO was a corrupt cesspool and everything
was under funded but over paid, due to graft and pay offs. Nothing
could get done without the right connections.
Plus the response of both the Governor and the Mayor were
spectacularly
On Mar 15, 2010, at 6:36 PM, rleesimon wrote:
Wing nuts want to provide broad band via those stinkin' ugly wires
around
all over the place. Finally, all that hardware gets jammed up with
every
neighbor downloadin' his daily dose of porn. The way to get
broadband out
is multivalent
Tom most governmental positions that are not controlled by Civil
Service law are filled with pols frat boys and sorority sisters.
That is how government works, unfortunately.
I cant remember how many positions that are filled when a new
administration comes in, but it is huge.
I just read
And Obama promoted the key wingnuts from Bush for the economy..that worked
well! And how about them wildfires? Those environmental policies of
leaving nice highly flammable dead wood and brush year after year really
helped us get some good fires in.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:38 PM, tjpa
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
And Obama promoted the key wingnuts from Bush for the economy..that worked
well!
I think we all know who pretty much runs the show. The individual
players may change, but the entities remain the same.
Steve
If memory and my history books are correct this has been a problem for eons.
How do you think Pontius Pilate got his appointment as Procurator in
Palestine? It was a political appointment.
He certainly had some problems. (Not just from a religious standpoint.)
To the victor goes the
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