Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:23 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Haven't heard anything about attempts to return the phone before Giz bought it..? http://gizmodo.com/5520729/why-apple-couldnt-get-the-lost-iphone-back?skyline=trues=i

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread Jeff Miles
This whole thing is just stupid. I hope Apple isn't behind any of the prosecution of this person, their employee, for loosing the phone. I also hope they're not behind the prosecution of the person who sold it, or the person who blogged what it's advancements where over their most

Re: [CGUYS] fios renewal was:Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]

2010-04-28 Thread John Emmerling
Reverend, please don't bad-mouth my Honda Fit! On 4/27/10, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: At least you can buy neat looking cars that perform also. Makes it more fun to drive. Stewart * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] fios renewal was:Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]

2010-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Whose bad mouthing it? Kind of a neat car. Lots of European clones of it also. Stewart At 08:07 AM 4/28/2010, you wrote: Reverend, please don't bad-mouth my Honda Fit! On 4/27/10, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: At least you can buy neat looking cars that perform also.

Re: [CGUYS] fios renewal was:Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]

2010-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I am not talking about the screamers. Even many of their low end cars are neat looking compared to what is sold over here. Stewart At 12:00 AM 4/28/2010, you wrote: I'll take a ford gt over those foreign screamers. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Stewart Marshall

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread mike
This Giz article just makes me want to find someone who works at Gizmodo and slap em around. This blog post front to back is an insult to their readers. They make not one statement as fact, it's all maybe and perhaps. They also gloss over the fact they knew who the phone belonged to...I don't

Re: [CGUYS] fios renewal was:Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]

2010-04-28 Thread b_s-wilk
Too true you could stream quite a few car-b-ques on that fast network. Haven't ever heard of 30,000 cars getting torched in LA or Miami or The Bronx... Mike You probably weren't around when DC, Philly, Newark, Detroit, LA were burning during the riots of the 60s and 70s. But if you were,

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 11:11 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: This Giz article just makes me want to find someone who works at Gizmodo and slap em around.  This blog post front to back is an insult to their readers.  They make not one statement as fact, it's all maybe and perhaps. They also

Re: [CGUYS] fios renewal was:Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]

2010-04-28 Thread mike
But only slightly less than the price of cheese in France is how much the telco's charge in said country. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:46 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: Too true you could stream quite a few car-b-ques on that fast network. Haven't ever heard of 30,000 cars getting torched

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread mike
Most I've heard have dismissed this believing exposing the new iphone this early would kill current sales. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: I also think that Apple was also silly to let something super-secretive be taken out in public. Unless,

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread tjpa
On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:51 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I also think that Apple was also silly to let something super-secretive be taken out in public. Unless, of course, what essentially transpired is what they wanted to have happen. Releasing new products without field testing is not a

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:10 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Most I've heard have dismissed this believing exposing the new iphone this early would kill current sales. Are you saying that folks do not already suppose that Apple is going to release a new version of their ubiquitous phone in

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:54 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Releasing new products without field testing is not a good idea. You are taking quite an extreme stance if your efforts to oppose Apple. Perhaps you should run for the Senate? Field testing an as yet publicly unseen and unreleased

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread mike
I'm saying most industry folks are saying that putting a new iphone into the faces of those who may be buying one, may make them wait till this new one comes out. Especially one that may look very different than the current one. On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:28 PM, phartz...@gmail.com

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread mike
If I was a judge in this case my first query would be if this item is worth so much, money, market share..etc...why did you send some kid into a bar to leave it while he went out and took a leak in the alley? This super secret phone from Apple wasn't taken from Apple headquarters by a team of IMF

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:53 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm saying most industry folks are saying that putting a new iphone into the faces of those who may be buying one, may make them wait till this new one comes out.  Especially one that may look very different than the current one.

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net wrote:        This whole thing is just stupid. I hope Apple isn't behind any of the prosecution of this person, their employee, for loosing the phone. I also hope they're not behind the prosecution of the person who sold it, or

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:56 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: If I was a judge in this case my first query would be if this item is worth so much, money, market share..etc...why did you send some kid into a bar to leave it while he went out and took a leak in the alley?  This super secret

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread tjpa
On Apr 28, 2010, at 3:25 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: However, it is my position that they brought this upon themselves either through intent or through foolishness. In either case, they should shoulder the blame themselves in this instance instead of lashing out at others by causing the

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread mike
Sounds like you read half of Jason Calacanis's breakdown where he said everyone involved including Apple were d#$ks. On Apr 28, 2010 4:43 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 3:25 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: However, it is my position that they bro... You bleeding-heart

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread tjpa
On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:49 PM, mike wrote: Sounds like you read half of Jason Calacanis's breakdown where he said everyone involved including Apple were d#$ks. I bet that if we were to come over to your house and help ourselves to your belongings you would be singing a tune similar to Apple.

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread Stewart Marshall
Lousy analogy Tom. You act as if you have not read any of what has been written about this item. The fact is the item was left by absent minded techie at bar. Item was turned into bar tender who has no idea whose it is.(I wonder how many folks had been there that night and had phones?)

Re: [CGUYS] Some of you will find this tragic

2010-04-28 Thread Paula Minor
s actually up and running on a working, plugged-in DOS machine. But then, I'm a total pack rat. I'm a pack rat too. I'll be holding on to my zip and floppy drivesjust in case. They don't take up much space. Paula Minor raven880atindy.net

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread tjpa
On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: You tend to be so predictable Tom. I sure am. Those old tablets Moses was carrying still have some meaning to me. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread David K Watson
You can personally feel that Apple was foolish in how they let the phone be stolen, but that has absolutely no legal bearing on its theft. There are still people who are foolish enough to leave their car running and unlocked when they go into a convenience store, but if the car gets stolen,

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread mike
You do realize noone buys it when you alter facts to suit your argument right? On Apr 28, 2010 6:40 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:49 PM, mike wrote: Sounds like you read half of Jason Calacanis's breakdow... I bet that if we were to come over to your house and help

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I did not know you were Jewish. Stewart At 09:16 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote: On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: You tend to be so predictable Tom. I sure am. Those old tablets Moses was carrying still have some meaning to me.

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread mike
I've seen nothing about any attempts to return the phone..any links rev? On Apr 28, 2010 6:59 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Lousy analogy Tom. You act as if you have not read any of what has been written about this item. The fact is the item was left by absent minded

Re: [CGUYS] Palm Does About as Well as It Could

2010-04-28 Thread mike
An HP engineered phone can't be worse than a palm pixi. Web os is a strong, nicely done os...it just has no support for apps and the hardware I think is poor. On Apr 28, 2010 7:34 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: Wow! This is an interesting change of fortune and hopefully a new lease on life for

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It has been referenced here online that the phone got returned. Stewart At 10:27 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote: I've seen nothing about any attempts to return the phone..any links rev? On Apr 28, 2010 6:59 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Lousy analogy Tom. You act as if

Re: [CGUYS] Palm Does About as Well as It Could

2010-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
So far I am very happy with my Palm Pre. Nicely done, nice hardware and easy to use. Could use a few more apps, it would be nice to have a decent IM program. I have not paid for one app yet, an have a decent group of them that are useful. The free hotspot app and usage (Verizon dropped the

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread mike
I mean attempts before illegalities ensued. Maybe before at least Denton got Chen to do the iPhone autopsy. On Apr 28, 2010 8:43 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: It has been referenced here online that the phone got returned. Stewart At 10:27 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread t.piwowar
On Apr 28, 2010, at 11:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: It has been referenced here online that the phone got returned. Apple sent folks over to the guy's house to demand he give them back the phone. He didn't. Your account is pure fabrication. Gizmodo's iPhone Saga: Fact vs.

Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread t.piwowar
On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:34 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: That is not a fair or accurate comparison. It is fair and accurate. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,