[CGUYS] Mac Firmware Patches

2007-09-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
Those who have had some problems running Windows on Intel Macs may want to try again after installing the firmware patches that Apple released yesterday. Long list of links at macintouch.com or just run software updater.

Re: [CGUYS] Anti-virus

2007-09-30 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 7:11 PM -0400 9/27/07, Steve Rigby wrote: On Sep 27, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Paul Meyer wrote: Rather than being consumer driven changes in software have always been largely done over the objections of the user base. IMHO (List, am I right?) I think you are pretty much right. And yet, a

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Sue Cubic
At 02:39 PM 09/29/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote This is an application where Windows is inappropriate. She needs a computer to use, not a computer that provides endless opportunities for tinkering. Get her a computer that is attractive, easy to use, that works right out of the box and is not

Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

2007-09-30 Thread Mark Corrigan
On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Charles Ballinger wrote: Any except the gov't hospital. What government hospital are you talking about? I take it that you are not a veteran and no nothing about the VA. The VA is the biggest hospital system in the world and provides very good care for

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
And you're going to be right there with her to teach her to use this? Or maybe kick in the extra $500 over the cost of a PC? The price of crappy PCs has crept up as companies like Dell have found that they can't be profitable at their former prices. And I was not suggesting you get the

Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

2007-09-30 Thread Rob
...no nothing...? I take it you mean KNOW nothing? :) On Sunday 30 September 2007 10:57, Mark Corrigan wrote: On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Charles Ballinger wrote: Any except the gov't hospital. What government hospital are you talking about? I take it that you are not a veteran and no

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Paul Meyer
My appreciation of the value of the MacMini would be radically different if I had bought any of the extra services Apple tried to sell (quite aggresively too, btw). I don't advocate integrate the UPS in a PC, but the PC sales guys (like the Dell reps my in-laws encountered) will pile a dozen

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Randy
Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and automatic as possible, with options for manual control for those who want or need that. Since Apple has control over the hardware and the software, why not

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Paul Meyer
Well, I understand that battery technology (in a UPS) is problematic on a variety of fronts (weight, reliability, etc) but apparently necessary (for some people) until the circuitry, power supplies and hard drives in PC's become more robust. The internect connection configuration in OSX is

Re: [CGUYS] [ OT WARNING!!!!

2007-09-30 Thread Charles Ballinger
You took wrong Mark. I'm a veteran and I know the VA system. Am I to guess you're somehow affiliated with the VA and took exception? I didn't say one couldn't get good care at a VA. I said, given a choice I'd prefer a non-gov't run hospital, except depending on diagnosis. Lots of people

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Randy
Think the goal should be to make the experience of using a computer, at least for the average or below average user, as much like the experience of driving a new or late model, good-shape car as possible. My overall impression is that those designing hardware and software, except maybe for

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Jeff Wright
Of course. Have the backup job write to an external drive or just manually burn a CD or DVD once per week/month. -Original Message- But don't you really need to back up to a separate device or drive, in case the entire hard drive becomes corrupted, etc.?

Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: NYT: Altered iPhones Freeze Up

2007-09-30 Thread mike
The Jesus phone lives again. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/iphone/unbricked-iphones-now-fully-working-calls-included-305253.php Giz reporting iphones fully working after updates. I wonder if this will end up being some cat and mouse game like so many other drm related issues. On a note about

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Sue Cubic
At 12:18 PM 09/30/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote I don't think ignorance is an acceptable defense. What if her doctor did not prescribe an important new treatment because keeping up with medical advances was too much trouble? You have a fiduciary responsibility to make the best selection for

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Mason Miller
This would all be easier, not for you, but for her, on a Mac. Mason Sent from my iPhone via SiteWelder On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:18 PM 09/30/2007 -0500, Tom Piwowar wrote I don't think ignorance is an acceptable defense. What if her doctor did

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread mike
You can't confuse her with email/browser if she's never done it. If she does it from the start it would be simplier, less to mess with. It would also save time if her computer ever goes down, all her stuff is online and you wouldn't have to explain to her how it's all gone or how to back up.

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Charles Ballinger
and probably easier for you too since you wouldn't be there pushing her and hand-holding.. Maybe you would both have time to get a new hobby. g cb On Sep 30, 2007, at 7:43 PM, Mason Miller wrote: This would all be easier, not for you, but for her, on a Mac. Mason Sent from my iPhone via

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread mike
Definately, heaven forbid she learns to use email well and some well intentioned idiot sends her a link to a malware site taking her system down. The slight if at all aggravation of the teacher having to learn mac os a little would be easily offset by the coming problems she could face. But then

Re: [CGUYS] [Fwd: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Charles Ballinger
This lady might benefit from a resource like SeniorNet. She might find a peer group. She'll learn things, maybe completely new things that will develop new interests for her to pursue. Who knows.. soon after Sue gets the PC set up the lady may go online, order a Mac, pull it out of the

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread b_s-wilk
Backup device will arrive in a few weeks - http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/features/timemachine.html Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Well, sounds like Macs would be perfectly suited to build in a back up device (or provide an external one) to make backing up as easy and automatic as

Re: [CGUYS] MacMini: [Was: XP Gets Life Extension]

2007-09-30 Thread Randy
Well, there you go! Wonder about cost, naturally. So any chance of this ever coming to the PC world, where I am currently mired? Randall - Original Message - From: b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [CGUYS] Rename the List?

2007-09-30 Thread b_s-wilk
Randy [EMAIL PROTECTED] excribió: I'm thinking of something like this: when a person is curious or has aquestion about something they can go out in the world - to other persons, the internet, a book, database, etc. - and acquire new information, which would then answer their question or