Re: [CGUYS] dtv converter box choice

[John Duncan Yoyo]

At this point I wouldn't bother with a digital tv box for a VCR but
would look for a DVR/DVD recorder with a new digital tv tuner.  If you
get one with a hardrive to capture TV and a DVD burner to save what
you want you should be in good shape.


On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 2:28 PM, rlsimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For $40 coupon you get a tuner that outputs one channel.  Some have
>  passthrough which allows you to get the current analog signal, but you can
>  just get a splitter to put in before the box if your tv has video 1,2,3 etc
>  or aux inputs.  I would pay more if I could get a box that is a multi output
>  tuner that gives more than 1 channel (so you can use your vcr & dvd recorder
>  on it on separate channels).  These boxes are directed at the people who
>  don't have cable or dish and want a cheap way to keep their tv.  They are
>  not rocket science!
>
>
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Kyle R. Graybeal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:38 AM
>  Subject: Re: dtv converter box choice
>
>
>
> Just curious. If you have a antenna with more than one TV connected
>  to it through a splitter, do you need a converter for each TV or will
>  one suffice?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>  Kyle Graybeal
>
>  At 05:21 AM 3/19/2008, you wrote:
>  >You can apply to get two $40 coupons for converter boxes at
>  >.  It takes a while to process.  There is a
>  >long list of approved boxes on the site.
>  >
>  >One of the things to look for is a box that will pass through the RF
>  >signal when the box is off.  This will allow you to use the current
>  >tuner for non digital signals.
>  >
>
> >On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Tony B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > > I've seen no reports yet, but then none have yet been spotted in the
>  > > wild.
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>  > >  On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 5:35 PM, rlsimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > > > which dtv converter box is best?
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Re: [CGUYS] Online storage solutions?

[Paula Minor]

You can hear a review for Jungledisk at
 episode 123.


Thanks, John.  Somehow I"ve missed that episode.

Skydrive from MS looks promising, inludes 5 gigs free, public,  
private and

shared folders.


Thanks Mike.  I"ll have to check to see if it works with a Mac.



Paula
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Re: [CGUYS] Online storage solutions?

[Paula Minor]

No, but Mozy is excellent depending on what you needs are. Mozy has  
a decent interface, free for 2 GBs, $4.95 for unlimited storage,


Really?  UNLIMITED storage?  I'm talking maybe 600 gig of photos.  
Another 500 gig if I back up my iTunes folder.

I don't need file sharing.
Mozy.com???

Thanks

Paula
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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[Robert Michael Abrams]

 I have two technical legal points to make about dealing with this scam:

 1. If you are ambushed or blind-sided by the appearance of the 
cashier's check for MORE than the amount of the sale, that is, they led you 
to believe the check would be for $5,000 (or whatever the cost of the goods 
sold, for example), but when you open the envelope, the check is for 
$8,000, you may adopt the position, for at least as long as it takes to 
determine whether or not the instrument is valid, that it is a gift 
received in the mail. Had you received a $5,000 check, as you discussed, 
then that would not have been a gift when it arrived. But, since you never 
discussed the $8,000 check, use the USPS regs and statutes to call it a 
gift, because, absent a prior bona fide business relationship with a 
sender, anything you get in the mail that you didn't order or ask for is a 
gift. That absolves you of any duty to send anybody anything, on account of 
it. If the $8,000 check arrives, and is accompanied by a writing saying how 
the additional $3,000 is to be handled, then that might also make it not a 
gift, but you are then free to send the whole thing back to the sender and 
say that this additional transfer of funds wasn't part of the deal. Either 
of these actions by you (calling it a gift and doing nothing, or sending 
back the check with the overage amount) will reveal the true nature of 
whoever is on the other side.


 2. A forged check is NOT subject to the collection and 
funds-availability of a genuinely-negotiable instrument. Just because YOUR 
bank puts eight grand into your account after 3 or 5 days, as the case may 
be, doesn't mean there is a way for a forger to know that. That is, if you 
deposit the check, and your bank pays it, but you tell the buyer that your 
bank is still holding it for collection (if you say something like, "The 
funds are still being held by my bank, because there is some question about 
the authority of the drawee bank [the bank on the face of the document; you 
could also use the term "payor bank"] to pay the instrument," that will be 
the absolute truth), only the honest buyer will have a bank to go to ask if 
that check has been paid or not. Therefore, repeated, and 
ostensibly-patient, inquiries by the buyer, over time, may be a signal to 
you that there is no bank on HIS end with whom he can check. Mutatis 
mutandis, if YOU were the buyer, and YOU sent someone a REAL cashier's 
check, and your seller kept telling you that his bank hadn't released the 
funds, yet, wouldn't YOU go, sooner rather than later, to YOUR bank and see 
if it had been presented through the clearinghouse? If he is a forger, you 
can even smoke him out by saying, "Why don't you go to, or call, YOUR bank, 
and see if they have been getting the inquiries from my bank, and then get 
back to me and tell me what they say. Better yet, get me a phone number of 
someone at your bank that the people at my bank can talk to. I think that's 
the best way to clear this up."


 3. Is there anyone please,on the list thast will help me to move 
SIXTY-SIX TRILLION DOLLARS USD$ out of the country. My wife she was the 
queen ,and these was her monies, but she was assassinated dead, and now 
they want to kill me, too. And I am in hidding. I am prepared to pay a 
goodly portion of these money to whoever help me, TWENTY PERCENT (25%). I 
pick you because of your upstanding character, honetsy and very large 
instrumentality. It is well-known, even in my country, where I was the 
Minister of Accounting and Treasuries. If this noble entreaty appeal to you 
and you can be of your glorious and merciful assistance, then kindly to be 
sending me please your credit card and bank information right a way.


   Bob

Hey, yo, hepty-doop!

OK
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Re: [CGUYS] ubuntu and gnucash

[Jeff Wright]

Did someone say food fight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-yldqNkGfo


> -Original Message-
> > red or white?
> >
> 
> 
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Re: [CGUYS] ubuntu and gnucash

[Michael Fernando]

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Judy Cosler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> red or white?
>


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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[Steve Rigby]

On Mar 20, 2008, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote:

My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale.  He  
received this email Monday.  We're trying to ascertain whether this  
is a real person, & if the offer is legit.  There are several  
aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa,  
asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs).  He's  
thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather  
than the artwork itself.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.


  I am quite positive that it is a scam.  I work in an art gallery/ 
picture framing establishment, and we were hit with a similar e-mail  
scam involving the shipping of artwork.  I protested against  
cooperating with the sender of the e-mail, but a couple of others at  
the gallery played along because they saw dollar signs.  After they  
spent a lot of time sending e-mail back and forth to the sender, they  
finally discovered what I had told them all along, that it was a scam.


  Eventually it was found out that this type of scam is common, with  
a few twists added here and there to make them appear to be different  
in nature.


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Re: [CGUYS] MAJOR hard drive problems

[cindy brandt]

I probably was not very clear. THe replacement 500 GB drive which is the
secondary drive is recognized just fine. THe primary drive was originally
recognized as 500 GB but then  I used Safety Drill to clone the original
160GB drive onto it. So it created 2 partitions (actually there are 2 other
small partitions that were on the original Dell Drive that are there too).
THe first is seen as the C drive of only 160 GB, the second partition (the D
drive) is 316 GB. I guess I wanted to know if there is some way to copy the
existing 160 GB partition, create a new boot drive with all my applications
and data from the 160 GB on a 500 GB drive so I don't have to split it up as
two drives. I'm not familiar with other "cloning" software so I don't know
how they work, but I assume that I want what people usually use to copy
their boot drive onto a larger drive.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:28 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Check the motherboard site to see if there is an update to support larger
> drives.  If not you may have to use a pci IDE/SATA expansion card to get
> the
> drives recognized.
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:07 PM, cindy brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > After these drives died, I was getting warnings about my primary XP
> drive
> > so
> > I immediately bought a replacement drive and another external drive for
> XP
> > backup. I used Seagate's Safety Drill to clone the original 160GB
> primary
> > drive onto a new WD 500GB internal which I used to replace the 160GB. I
> > thought I would get extra space on my new larger C drive but instead I
> had
> > to partition it to give me another drive to use the rest of the 500GB.
> So
> > now Seagate has replaced the 500GB drive which went bad. I want to have
> > two
> > 500 GB drives instead of a C drive with just 160GB, a D drive with about
> > 316GB and the new drive with 500GB. Any suggestions of how to do it?
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Re: [CGUYS] MAJOR hard drive problems

[b_s-wilk]

Are you sure that there isn't a short circuit _inside_ your Dell? or 
Mac? That's a lot of drives to lose in such a short time. Maybe the UPS 
is faulty--or surge suppressors--or a bad circuit. One or two power 
surges aren't likely to knock out all those drives, especially at 
different times.


We've had plenty of power surges and brownouts here [nowhere]. I've been 
hoping that would blow out my old refrigerator so the power company 
would replace it. Bought a new refrigerator and donated the [still 
working] old one. Didn't lose any hard drives either except one that had 
a recall, and a few ancient ones that were shrinking anyway--none were 
killed due to surges.


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Re: [CGUYS] ubuntu and gnucash

[Judy Cosler]

red or white?

Michael Fernando wrote:

I'm considering moving my mom from windows xp pro to ubuntu.  She has
just one too many friends forwarding her every email they find on the
web I believe and I can't seem to get her to stop opening them.  The
only app I'm not sure about replacing is her quicken.  I've read on
the gnucash website that it can import all quicken files and it
appears to have a similar interface.  Does anyone have experience with
this program?  Or thoughts on another program of this type?  All she
needs is a small program for home register entry, nothing business
oriented.



Perhaps you can still run quicken on ubuntu if you install wine?  I've
run a couple of p2p video apps on ubuntu using wine and the performance
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Re: [CGUYS] MAJOR hard drive problems

[Tony B]

I always point out when discussing good backups that hard drives can
and do fail suddenly and without warning. Not what I would consider
'archival' storage at all. But they're great for the day to day
backups; still much faster than the internet.


On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:07 PM, cindy brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [CGUYS] MAJOR hard drive problems

[mike]

Check the motherboard site to see if there is an update to support larger
drives.  If not you may have to use a pci IDE/SATA expansion card to get the
drives recognized.

Mike

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:07 PM, cindy brandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>
> After these drives died, I was getting warnings about my primary XP drive
> so
> I immediately bought a replacement drive and another external drive for XP
> backup. I used Seagate's Safety Drill to clone the original 160GB primary
> drive onto a new WD 500GB internal which I used to replace the 160GB. I
> thought I would get extra space on my new larger C drive but instead I had
> to partition it to give me another drive to use the rest of the 500GB. So
> now Seagate has replaced the 500GB drive which went bad. I want to have
> two
> 500 GB drives instead of a C drive with just 160GB, a D drive with about
> 316GB and the new drive with 500GB. Any suggestions of how to do it?
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Re: [CGUYS] ubuntu and gnucash

[Michael Fernando]

> I'm considering moving my mom from windows xp pro to ubuntu.  She has
> just one too many friends forwarding her every email they find on the
> web I believe and I can't seem to get her to stop opening them.  The
> only app I'm not sure about replacing is her quicken.  I've read on
> the gnucash website that it can import all quicken files and it
> appears to have a similar interface.  Does anyone have experience with
> this program?  Or thoughts on another program of this type?  All she
> needs is a small program for home register entry, nothing business
> oriented.

Perhaps you can still run quicken on ubuntu if you install wine?  I've
run a couple of p2p video apps on ubuntu using wine and the performance
was fine.


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[CGUYS] MAJOR hard drive problems

[cindy brandt]

THis is a long email describing my computer meltdown and a warning to
everyone about hard drives.


I recently  lost 3 hard drives in 9 days. First I lost my backup drives for
both my Dell XP system and my intel MacBook. THe XP drive was a 2 1/2 month
old Seagate internal drive which was used to back up my primary drive every
day. THe Macbook was backed up daily, weekly and bi-weekly to separate
partitions on a 7 month old 750 GB Maxtor external drive using Super Duper.
I thought I was completely covered. HA.


After these drives died, I was getting warnings about my primary XP drive so
I immediately bought a replacement drive and another external drive for XP
backup. I used Seagate's Safety Drill to clone the original 160GB primary
drive onto a new WD 500GB internal which I used to replace the 160GB. I
thought I would get extra space on my new larger C drive but instead I had
to partition it to give me another drive to use the rest of the 500GB. So
now Seagate has replaced the 500GB drive which went bad. I want to have two
500 GB drives instead of a C drive with just 160GB, a D drive with about
316GB and the new drive with 500GB. Any suggestions of how to do it?


Oh yeh, I didn't worry about the MAcbook which had a 7 month old hard drive
(replaced by the Apple store when the first one went bad 7 months ago). Bad
decision. That one died 9 days later and not only did it have only a 3 month
warranty (thank you APPLE), but I had only backed up  some of my information
after I had lost my big backup drive. I just didn't think lightning could
strike again and again and again. Last August when I lost my first Macbook
hard drive it was only 13 months old (long enough to be out of warranty) but
I had a 10 day old backup and I thought that was bad. I swore this would
never happen to me again. Obviously I was wrong.


Yes, I think I had a power surge.  And yes, I had surge protectors and even
a UPS on this system. THe computers and hard drives were all on the UPS and
a new printer and router, speakers, etc. were on a surge protecter. But I
had just bought a new Samsung laser monochrome printer which I had installed
before the internal XP drive went bad. WHen I first used  the printer
(plugged into the surge protecter, not the UPS), the UPS beeped at me and my
XP immediately restarted. I had never seen this happen before and didn't
connect it with the printing. AFter the second occurrence, I unplugged the
printer and moved it to another electrical circuit.  Too late. THat might
explain the internal XP death, and maybe the external 750GB except  it is
possible that  the MacBook backups were failing for a few days already
before this happened. I don't understand the MacBook hard drive failure
because that never restarted at all, but it was the same 80GB drive that
hundreds of others are complaining about on the Apple Support discussion
sites . Data recovery was just too expensive and as the days go by, I guess
I can live without all I have lost, but I am constantly remembering new
things that I don't have (like receipts which I thought would be safe by
keeping them in email folders.)


So this is a warning to all - do not depend on any backup drive. THe more I
researched this, the more I found that lots of them are failing, especially
the big ones. ANd all the drives that failed (5 in all since last AUgust)
were Seagate or Maxtor drives which are considered to be good drives.  I
couldn't believe at first that people were suggesting redundancy (backing up
backup drives) but I do that now. I even have online backup going as well. I
also bought new surge protecters with data recovery warranties so incase
this ever happens again I can at least have some hope for recovery.


I hope some of you get to the end of this long message and can answer the
question I asked in the third paragraph.


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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[Rev. Stewart Marshall]

One correction.  There are bogus money orders out there.

DO TAKE IT to the bank.  They can check their sources and see if it is bogus.

Cashiers checks can be bogus and can also be cancelled.

Stewart


At 03:26 PM 3/20/2008, you wrote:

>Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse

The subject line starts with "[SPAM]." If you look at the email's headers
(which you did not provide us) you will probably find some lines that
begin with "X-Spam" that have a score from your ISP's spam filters. When
that score is high enough many ISP's will add "[SPAM]" to the subject
line.

This would suggest that you buyer is bulk mailing these offers to buy.

This is a tough decision. If you want to sell art via a website you have
to be ready to fill orders that come via Internet. Yet you don't want to
get scammed and orders that come via Internet always seem suspicious.

So insist on payment in advance using a means that is not reversable,
like money order or moneygram and redeem it for cash. Do not cash it at
your bank.


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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[Tom Piwowar]

>It is also offensive, imo as someone who represented artists over 
>the years. Art can be bargained, but would you bargain your dinner 
>at a restaurant or your new suit at the department store?

Depends on which country I was in. In some countries everything is 
negotiable. In the US most things are negotiable, but sellers try to 
convince us that they are not. If you know someone in the restaurant 
business you will definitely see them negotiating with other 
restauranteurs. Same if you know somebody in the clothng business. Many 
times I have told a salesperson "I see you have a sale, but it is not 
exactly what I need" and have been told "no problem."


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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[Tom Piwowar]

>Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse

The subject line starts with "[SPAM]." If you look at the email's headers 
(which you did not provide us) you will probably find some lines that 
begin with "X-Spam" that have a score from your ISP's spam filters. When 
that score is high enough many ISP's will add "[SPAM]" to the subject 
line.

This would suggest that you buyer is bulk mailing these offers to buy.

This is a tough decision. If you want to sell art via a website you have 
to be ready to fill orders that come via Internet. Yet you don't want to 
get scammed and orders that come via Internet always seem suspicious.

So insist on payment in advance using a means that is not reversable, 
like money order or moneygram and redeem it for cash. Do not cash it at 
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Re: [CGUYS] Online storage solutions?

[mike]

Skydrive from MS looks promising, inludes 5 gigs free, public, private and
shared folders.



Not sure the of the url...believe it's http://skydrive.live.com

Mike

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Paula Minor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone used this service?
> http://jungledisk.com/
> I was just wondering if it was reliable for photo storage.  I have so
> many external  hard disks stacked on my desk for photo backup that
> I'm running out of space...and sweating from the heat. ;-)
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [CGUYS] dtv converter box choice

[rlsimon]

For $40 coupon you get a tuner that outputs one channel.  Some have
passthrough which allows you to get the current analog signal, but you can
just get a splitter to put in before the box if your tv has video 1,2,3 etc
or aux inputs.  I would pay more if I could get a box that is a multi output
tuner that gives more than 1 channel (so you can use your vcr & dvd recorder
on it on separate channels).  These boxes are directed at the people who
don't have cable or dish and want a cheap way to keep their tv.  They are
not rocket science!

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From: Kyle R. Graybeal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: dtv converter box choice


Just curious. If you have a antenna with more than one TV connected 
to it through a splitter, do you need a converter for each TV or will 
one suffice?

Thanks

Kyle Graybeal

At 05:21 AM 3/19/2008, you wrote:
>You can apply to get two $40 coupons for converter boxes at 
>.  It takes a while to process.  There is a 
>long list of approved boxes on the site.
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>One of the things to look for is a box that will pass through the RF 
>signal when the box is off.  This will allow you to use the current 
>tuner for non digital signals.
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Re: [CGUYS] Online storage solutions?

[Joe Tseng]

Like the previous poster noted - YMMV for whatever service you select 
depending on your needs.  That said, I've used the Gmail extension for 
Windows (Gmailfs) for 3+ yrs now to store and transparently transfer files 
between home and the office.  If you do decide to use Gmail my suggestion is 
to create an acct specifically for this purpose rather than use an existing 
acct.


http://www.viksoe.dk/gmail/

PS there is a *nix version of this too; finding the location of this url is 
left as an exercise for the reader.


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From: "Paula Minor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 12:17 PM
Subject: Online storage solutions?



Has anyone used this service?
http://jungledisk.com/
I was just wondering if it was reliable for photo storage.  I have so 
many external  hard disks stacked on my desk for photo backup that  I'm 
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Re: [CGUYS] Online storage solutions?

[db]

No, but Mozy is excellent depending on what you needs are. Mozy has a 
decent interface, free for 2 GBs, $4.95 for unlimited storage, 30 day 
archiving of deleted files, no file sharing capability

db

Paula Minor wrote:

Has anyone used this service?
http://jungledisk.com/
I was just wondering if it was reliable for photo storage.  I have so 
many external  hard disks stacked on my desk for photo backup that I'm 
running out of space...and sweating from the heat. ;-)

Thanks!

Paula
IN/USA
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arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather 
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[CGUYS] Online storage solutions?

[Paula Minor]

Has anyone used this service?
http://jungledisk.com/
I was just wondering if it was reliable for photo storage.  I have so  
many external  hard disks stacked on my desk for photo backup that  
I'm running out of space...and sweating from the heat. ;-)

Thanks!

Paula
IN/USA
Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of  
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather  
to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, wine in the other, body  
thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a  
ride!" Have a wonderful day!








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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[gerald]

there are a lot of counterfit cashiers checks out there.  if a bad one comes 
from out of the country, the bank has about a year or so to cancel funds in 
your account.  wire transfer should be clean.

At 09:46 AM 3/20/2008, you wrote:
>The bad grammar points I agree with.  The Gallery page has the  
>artist's phone number. Ask them to call you.  I doubt they will.   
>Worst case, take the offered cashiers check.
>
>Charles
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>On Mar 20, 2008, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote:
>>My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale.  He  
>>received this email Monday.  We're trying to ascertain whether this  
>>is a real person, & if the offer is legit.  There are several  
>>aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa,  
>>asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs).  He's  
>>thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather  
>>than the artwork itself.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.
>>
>>david
>>
>>[Begin email]
>>Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse
>>From: Sarah Baptiste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Good day to you out there.
>>
>>I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet  
>>search,I am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from  
>>you namely...
>>
>>Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg
>>
>>Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you  
>>going to give?I will be happy to have these selected artworks  
>>hanged in our new ho me in South Africa. As well, I want you to  
>>take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping  
>>firm that will be shipping other house decoratives.
>>
>>We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon  
>>as possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you  
>>with a Money Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be  
>>easily cashed at your local bank,please let me know on how to  
>>procced for the payment of the creative artworks.
>>
>>I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Sarah Baptiste
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Re: [CGUYS] anyone creating mashups with yahoo pipes or...

[mike]

I messed with it a little bit but not much yet.  I wasn't sure I could
output to an aggregator, or if it was web based only.  I've never liked web
based RSS readers.  Right now I'm trying to figure out if an eggdrop could
be programmed to output to twitter from an IRC channel.

I probably need help...mentally and programmably.

Mike

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 6:30 AM, GK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ... google mashup or popfly?
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> What marvelous tools. Would be interested in how you are building, if
> you are.
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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[Daniel Else]

Just the format and phrasing raises a host of red flags. It uses very generic 
wording that can apply to any targeted recipient. The placement of the images 
of interest looks like a mail merge of some kind. It just smells of an 
automated bulk email - not something who wants to decorate an apartment is 
likely to draft. I'd expect something much more personal, with details of how 
"she" came across your work, etc.
 
Also, mail orders and cashiers checks are easy to counterfeit.
 
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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[Scott A. Moorman]

Looks like the cashier's check scam.  See Snopes on this:

http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp

-SAM

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Quoting David Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale.  He   
received this email Monday.  We're trying to ascertain whether this   
is a real person, & if the offer is legit.  There are several   
aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa,   
asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs).  He's thinking  
 of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather than the   
artwork itself.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.


david

[Begin email]
Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse
From: Sarah Baptiste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good day to you out there.

I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet search,I  
 am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from you   
namely...


Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg

Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you   
going to give?I will be happy to have these selected artworks hanged  
 in our new ho me in South Africa. As well, I want you to take out   
the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping firm that   
will be shipping other house decoratives.


We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon   
as possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you   
with a Money Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be easily  
 cashed at your local bank,please let me know on how to procced for   
the payment of the creative artworks.


I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day.




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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[Charles Ballinger]

The bad grammar points I agree with.  The Gallery page has the  
artist's phone number. Ask them to call you.  I doubt they will.   
Worst case, take the offered cashiers check.


Charles


On Mar 20, 2008, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote:
My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale.  He  
received this email Monday.  We're trying to ascertain whether this  
is a real person, & if the offer is legit.  There are several  
aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa,  
asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs).  He's  
thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather  
than the artwork itself.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.


david

[Begin email]
Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse
From: Sarah Baptiste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good day to you out there.

I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet  
search,I am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from  
you namely...


Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg

Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you  
going to give?I will be happy to have these selected artworks  
hanged in our new ho me in South Africa. As well, I want you to  
take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping  
firm that will be shipping other house decoratives.


We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon  
as possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you  
with a Money Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be  
easily cashed at your local bank,please let me know on how to  
procced for the payment of the creative artworks.


I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day.

Best regards,
Sarah Baptiste
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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[gerald]

does not sound to me like a person with English as a first language.  maybe a 
Nigerian who has moved to SA.

for the past 20 years, my company sold and shipped to many foreign countries.  
stuff was a bit bulky, so we frequently shipped to freight forwarders in miami, 
nj, texas, etc.  cash equivalent up front, including S&H.  issue what is called 
a pro forma invoice in the trade.

the prices are not listed on this website. most art sites also have a full 
disclosure of T&C.  person wants a discount on 3 pieces?

if scherer cannot sell the stuff, just throw it away, do not add the 
embarrassment of paying S&H charges to ship to another planet.

we got to the place that we did not offer free samples to any new customers.


At 08:14 AM 3/20/2008, you wrote:
>scherercreations.com


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[CGUYS] anyone creating mashups with yahoo pipes or...

[GK]

... google mashup or popfly?

What marvelous tools. Would be interested in how you are building, if  
you are.


/gayley
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Re: [CGUYS] Email Scam?

[Gayley]

The incorrect grammar and misspellings would be enough to make me 
suspicious. If he does decide to respond, I'd ask for the money 
order up front, cash it and then send the artwork (plus shipping to 
Dallas or wherever).


It is also offensive, imo as someone who represented artists over 
the years. Art can be bargained, but would you bargain your dinner 
at a restaurant or your new suit at the department store?


/gayley knight



David Turk wrote:

My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale.  He received this email 
Monday.  We're trying to ascertain whether this is a real person, & if the 
offer is legit.  There are several aspects that make it sound questionable (moving 
to South Africa, asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs).  He's 
thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather than the artwork 
itself.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.

david

[Begin email]
Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse
From: Sarah Baptiste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good day to you out there.

I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet search,I am 
interested in purchasing some creative artworks from you 
namely...

Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg

Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you going to give?I 
will be happy to have these selected artworks hanged in our new ho me in South 
Africa. As well, I want you to take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch 
with a shipping firm that will be shipping other house decoratives.

We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon as 
possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you with a Money 
Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be easily cashed at your local 
bank,please let me know on how to procced for the payment of the creative 
artworks.

I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day.

Best regards,
Sarah Baptiste
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[David Turk]

My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale.  He received this 
email Monday.  We're trying to ascertain whether this is a real person, & if 
the offer is legit.  There are several aspects that make it sound questionable 
(moving to South Africa, asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs).  
He's thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather than 
the artwork itself.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.

david

[Begin email]
Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse
From: Sarah Baptiste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good day to you out there.

I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet search,I am 
interested in purchasing some creative artworks from you 
namely...

Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg

Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you going to give?I 
will be happy to have these selected artworks hanged in our new ho me in South 
Africa. As well, I want you to take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch 
with a shipping firm that will be shipping other house decoratives.

We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon as 
possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you with a Money 
Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be easily cashed at your local 
bank,please let me know on how to procced for the payment of the creative 
artworks.

I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day.

Best regards,
Sarah Baptiste
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