Re: [CGUYS] Time Machine
Tom didn't mention that a firewire connection is best between the computer and the external hard drive. Since your wife's new machine is a laptop, it will be necessary for her to connect the back-up drive from time to time, in order for Time Machine to do its job. I just got a new MacBook Pro too, and I'm loving it! I don't back it up, though, as my desktop is always backed up. -- Time Machine has bailed me out on more than one occasion. Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:13 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Date:Fri, 5 Dec 2008 17:30:39 -0500 From:Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Time Machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII My wife just got a new MacBook Pro. This is our first Mac running OS X 10.5. What is a good resource for using and utilizing Time Machine? It is entirely possible to use Time Machine with very little knowledge. Get a large external drive that is 2 to 3 times larger than the total of your files and plug it in to the laptop. Reply yes when prompted by Time Machine. Keep that drive attached as much as convenient. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
I use Mozilla thunderbird. If I want to copy the heading information, I select forward the email inline and then I can copy it (except for bcc recipients). Michael S. Altus wrote: I am looking for an e-mail client that that a feature like AOL version 7. As a freelance medical writer-editor, I have individual Word folders for each client. One of the files in these folders is named Correspondence, in which I routinely keep copies of incoming and outgoing e-mails. I have used AOL version 7 for several years because I can copy the visible headers (subject; date; from; to) in incoming and outgoing e-mails. That is, when I have an incoming or outgoing e-mail on the screen, I can select (Ctrl+A) and copy (Ctrl+C) the e-mail, including the visible headers, and paste (Ctrl+V) it into a Word file that, as mentioned, is named Correspondence. If you are unclear about what I mean, look at the e-mails in the www.cguys.org archives. These e-mails are formatted in a way that that the visible headers can be copied along with the text. When AOL version 9 was introduced, I tried it and found that the e-mails were configured differently. The visible headers are in the background, so to speak. When I would select an entire page (Ctrl-A), I would get only the body of the e-mail, not including the visible headers. For this reason, I downgraded to AOL version 7. I find that two e-mail clients, Microsoft Outlook and Mozilla Thunderbird, are configured in the same way as AOL version 9. When I select on the body of an e-mail, I get only the body, not the visible headers. My webhost offers webmail access to the e-mails. I do not care for the format, and I prefer to have an e-mail client on my computer so as to assure that e-mails are downloaded to my computer from the web. Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying visible headers along with the text? Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R) Biomedical Writing and Editing Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Looking for an e-mail client with particular features
In thunderbird you can do it two ways: 1. Ctl-U (or from the menu view/message source) to see a particular message - that's what I'd recommend. 2. View/Headers/All -- and then as I described earlier you can forward a message inline and copy the information Michael S. Altus wrote: I asked: Does anyone know of an e-mail client that formats e-mails to enable copying visible headers along with the text? Matthew Taylor replied: Pegasus email would do what you want. You can also change the message display options in Thunderbird to show the headers such that they would be copied. Matthew, Could you please walk me through the steps in Thunderbird version 2? I am using a Windows XP computer. Thanks, Michael Michael S. Altus, PhD, ELS Intensive Care Communications, Inc.(R) Biomedical Writing and Editing Baltimore MD; [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] LP to CD turntable?
One thing that would be useful but I don't know if it's available is some way to insert track markers when there's a break between sections. I used to use a Sony CD recorder that required special music CDs and would accept an auxiliary input from a phono jack. I remember the problem with recording records was that oftentimes it would be one looong track. Autobreaks were often in odd places. But that was 4 years ago so I assume the technology's better now. Michael Drabick wrote: Ion makes a turntable that plugs into the USB port, it seems like a descent unit but I have not tried it. I found this laypersons review of the unit. http://www.winecommonsewer.com/the_wine_commonsewer/2008/05/ion-usb-turntab.html If you have a nice turntable and stereo set I would get a external usb audio/videao capture board. http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr1950.html If you only have a couple of vinyls it makes more sense to buy the CD(if you like every song) or the mp3 if it is just one track your after. You can get just about any song online. If you look hard enough. Mike Judy Cosler wrote: any recommendations for a turntable to convert vinyl to digital format? any that I should stay away from? want easy, fast; don't want to have to tinker with. but, i don't want hum or other bad things. i'm no audiophile really! TIA, Judy * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] LP to CD turntable?
Many of the arguments for vinyl being better arose at a time when CD sound was not as good as it is today. But LPs are certainly better than MP3s if you have a good turntable. It is often said that vinyl has a warm quality and the slight sound of a turntable can be nostalgic for those who remember. But certainly one should not throw away one's albums unless they are in terrible condition. Long after your CDs stop playing (which may be about ten years for the cheaper ones) your albums will still be there (as long as you keep them in a good storage area) to make another copy for you. Making a digital copy of your favorite and rare vinyl recording to play is a good idea to preserve it. On the editing, if it removes the pops and crackles it almost certainly does something to the dynamic range. So you might try it with and without to see which you prefer. But if you buy something you may not necessarily want to go with the simplest method. Most of the time once you learn a method for editing it will be repeatable and won't take much more time than a simple player that screws things up a lot. Let us know what you find! Judy Cosler wrote: some ppl think vinyl sounds better than anything! (I don't weigh in with any opinion; don't think my 'ear' is good enough to tell!) Tony B wrote: I recently purchased one from Amazon for a friend (Audio Technica AT-LP2DUSB). As I recall, there weren't a lot of options as to quality; certainly not the selection there was in the old days. There isn't too much 'automatic' about the process. You have to learn to use a sound editor, and learn to burn the finished audio files to cd. This one shipped with a version of the open source Audacity, and some other app I can't remember. Face it, no matter how good it is, the old records are going to sound worse than modern digital music. My buddy is still worried about finding replacement cartridges for the darned thing, as I have yet to convince him that once he rips an album he'll never need to play the record again, and can just throw it away. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Judy Cosler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any recommendations for a turntable to convert vinyl to digital format? any that I should stay away from? want easy, fast; don't want to have to tinker with. but, i don't want hum or other bad things. i'm no audiophile really! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Steve Mobs was: [CGUYS] EFF chastises Apple
I think this is the youtube link; watch it before (if) it gets removed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkTMeczyHtE The Simpson's TV show was running their episode yesterday spoofing and poking fun at Apple Corp., Apple users, Steve Mobs and all things Apple and Macintosh. Pretty damn funny stuff and good parts of it were spot on. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] service pack 3
If you can get a disk with XP Service Pack 3 as an upgrade my experience was that that works with less problems. As always back up everything before beginning this update. On the three occasions I had trouble I was using the windows update. In all three cases the problem was with access to the internet using the browser (email still worked). These were home machines attached to a router. At work, of 40 some stations that updated none had any problems. However, about 25 of those updates were done using a disk we obtained via our university license. Before I undertook the upgrade I investigated the complaints about it and decided to wait about six months before upgrading. By that time I did not see many complaints although, as noted, I experienced problems on my home machines. JL jsutter wrote: hi ms just sent me service pack 3 as part of updates for xp. do i want to install it?? i'm sorry, i don't know anything about it. thanks for any advice. john * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] MS emerg security update - anyone notice monitor problems afterward?
It's probably a coincidence but most of our XP SP3 machines are not set to automatically install. In this case they all did and in the morning the machines were shut down. Okay. But on three machines in the subsequent startup there was a problem with the monitor blanking out? Anyone else have this experience? Thanks, JL * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPod Touch question
This is tricky, Betty! What they told me when I bought my iPod is that it only syncs to one computer. What that means is, anything in iTunes on the designated one computer, that is what syncs to the iPod Touch. I can download blogs to my iPod Touch through iTunes. Also sync my calendar, contacts, etc. But as far as I can tell, the iPod Touch doesn't sync in two directions -- only from the one computer to the iPod Touch. (So if you want to sync between computers, you have to somehow copy the iTunes files between computers.) From what I can gather, anything that cannot appear in iTunes -- will not appear on the iPod Touch. If you have songs, video's, whatevers, on the iPod, they will not transfer (or sync) from the iPod to the computer. It's a one way street. So you have to get whatever to install into iTunes, and then sync to the iPod Touch, to effect the transfer. Alternatively, of course, you can post the video to your website and Cavan can access it through the Touch if he has a wifi connection. As you know, I'm not much musically, so I haven't played around much with CD's, etc, as yet. But this is the case with Podcasts and talking books, etc, and I assume it's the same for anything video. Good luck! Mical Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Oct 7, 2008, at 12:00 AM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: Date:Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:41:09 -0400 From:b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: iPod Touch question I had one of Cavan's dance competition videos that I was going to give him yesterday to put on his iPod Touch. When he attached it to both my Mac and MacBook it not only didn't appear in iTunes, it didn't appear on my desktop either. I know that unauthorized iPods don't always appear in iTunes. I expected to be able to give him the video by copying it directly to the iPod from the desktop. What happened? Does the iPod Touch not work as a flash drive on unauthorized Macs? Does it have to be jailbroken? Can I transfer the video via WiFi? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MS Access problem
I've had trouble on some machines getting Access 2007 to associate itself with older mdb files and in these cases have had to resort to opening the older files from within Access instead of from Explorer. Yes, it makes no sense. Anyway, it seems from your description you don't have this problem. Only two things I can suggest therefore that you may already have tried. First, when you open the file using the old system, try hitting the function key ( F11) to see if it will bring up hidden tables, and possible something from which the export command will work. But even you cannot export directly see if you can open the table and copy the data over directly by hitting ctl-a (select all) ctl-c (copy) and then pasting (ctl-v) into a new access table in a new database. Probably you've tried that but just in case . . . I know how frustrating that kind of problem can be so best of luck to you. JL Larry Sacks wrote: I can open it on his old system *BUT* not by going directly into MS Access 2000. If I try to open it, I get the permissions error again. Instead I can open it via the shortcut. When this d/b delivered, it used the MS Access Runtime 2000 so you didn't have to have Access installed. Oh... and there's no menu listed to export the data either. Larry -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony B Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 9:07 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] MS Access problem Didn't you just say you can open it on his old machine? Then can't you just export it as a csv? On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Larry Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been through the MS newsgroups, but I'll wade through them again. The solutions that sound plausible involve getting the original version of access, although how do I go about finding that? The software was installed in 2001. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Larry Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. The mdb isn't corrupted. I can take the file on his new system, put it back on his old system and it works. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of Comcast - revisited
I went over to my friend's today and #1 - We repaired permissions. #2 - We replaced the ethernet cable connecting her computer to her modem. So far, her connection is stable. Don't know which of the above was the fix, but something seems to have worked. My thanks to all for your kind help and suggestions. Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 30, 2008 4:24:05 PM EDT Subject: Re: Speaking of Comcast What we're going to do, later this week, is bring my laptop down to her house, connect to Comcast with the laptop, access my AOL account through her modem and see what happens. Reportedly her husband (PC connected with a wireless router) never loses a signal, but her computer does, regularly. Her computer is connected to the Comcast modem via ethernet cable. Is she connected directly to the Comcast box? It would be better if she were connected to a port on the wireless router because the router would do a better job of keeping the connection alive. So the question becomes: Is it a Comcast problem? An AOL problem (she has a paid account)? Or some other weird thing. Rule out AOL by using Safari to access non-AOL sites and then leaving it idle. Hard to believe that Comcast would enforce a floor as well as a cap. That would be excessively evil. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of Comcast
My thanks to everyone for your suggestions. I'll keep you posted once we've researched this a bit more, probably later this week. Mical Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] IVR cheats (was: just one..)
A google search brought up a list of IVR cheats on this site: http://www.widowpc.com/2005/11/bypass_phone_tr.php (scroll down past the white space) Not sure how accurate it is but have found that trying some combination of these things works on most IVR trees. Usually I just start shouting Operator and Assistance into the phone while alternately punching # and O buttons. Hope they're recording it :) Jeff Wright wrote: So now, I've tried twice to get Verizon on the phone to place my order and after descending phone tree hell deep into the bowels of the company, I get cut off (at the same point) each time before being transferred to FIoS customer service. Wow. Just wow. This does not bode well. Is Verizon *sure* they want my money? I found that the solution was, after verifying my telephone number, was to yell OPERATOR into the phone. It transferred me to a human toot sweet, who, unlike the computerized system, was actually helpful. I also found out while on the phone, that the DVR replaces one of the set top boxes, so that's why I kept getting the error on the web site about the number of set tops and connections not matching. Of course, the web page says absolutely nothing about this nor offers any guidance. Grr. On the plus side, the bundle price was less over the phone than on the web, even though there were web only discounts. I'm sure there's a catch I don't see yet. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of Comcast
A link to the article would be helpful. We're talking Mac here, but if it's on MacFixIt, perhaps that's an issue. I really can't imagine it, but I guess I'll have to do some research now. Thanks for the info! Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: September 27, 2008 9:12:07 PM EDT Subject: Re: Speaking of Comcast Just ran across an article on macfixit.com which addresses a trojan horse which seems to display similar, but not exact, symptoms to those in Chrpersons post. On Sep 27, 2008, at 1:20 PM, db wrote: If she has a trojan on board which is filesharing videos etc around the clock, the 250 GB limit could be an issue... db [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I probably should have asked this weeks ago since Comcast has been a topic of discussion. I help a friend with Computer issues. (iMac / checkbook, etc. She's a good friend.) She accesses the internet using Comcast, her browser is Safari, and she uses AOL for e-mail access. Last year, after her internet connection all but failed, Comcast rewired her connection from the street to her house. She can access the internet with no difficulty now. BUT her connection fails, especially with AOL, but also with the internet, after a very brief time of inactivity. If she's using her internet connection, no problem; but if she walks away from the computer for a minute or two (to get a cup of coffee, for example) and then does a keystroke on either Safari or AOL upon her return, she's told she's disconnected and must sign on again. Comcast came out last week and exchanged her modem for a newer one. It seemed to help the problem for a few days, but by week's end, the disconnect issue had returned. FIOS is newly available in her area, and we've been discussing a possible switch to FIOS in hopes the connection issue will be solved. Any thoughts on this will be appreciated. FWIW: There's no way, none whatsoever, that her connection is anywhere near the 250gb limit. Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Speaking of Comcast
Thanks for the link! Sadly, I'm not a paid subscriber to MacFixIt, but I can assure you there is no possibility that my friend approved installation of a Trojan Horse onto her computer. What we're going to do, later this week, is bring my laptop down to her house, connect to Comcast with the laptop, access my AOL account through her modem and see what happens. Reportedly her husband (PC connected with a wireless router) never loses a signal, but her computer does, regularly. Her computer is connected to the Comcast modem via ethernet cable. So the question becomes: Is it a Comcast problem? An AOL problem (she has a paid account)? Or some other weird thing. It is passingly interesting that Comcast upgraded her modem about a week ago, and the problem was resolved for a few days, after which it returned. It is frustrating. If we can figure out what's happening, I'll be back with a report. Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 28, 2008, at 5:51 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automatic digest system wrote: A trojan horse must be activated by the user. This shouldn't happen if the user isn't an administrator. Even as administrator, you have to give permission for software to be installed. Did this happen? Or is it best to blame Comcast for the problems? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Speaking of Comcast
I probably should have asked this weeks ago since Comcast has been a topic of discussion. I help a friend with Computer issues. (iMac / checkbook, etc. She's a good friend.) She accesses the internet using Comcast, her browser is Safari, and she uses AOL for e-mail access. Last year, after her internet connection all but failed, Comcast rewired her connection from the street to her house. She can access the internet with no difficulty now. BUT her connection fails, especially with AOL, but also with the internet, after a very brief time of inactivity. If she's using her internet connection, no problem; but if she walks away from the computer for a minute or two (to get a cup of coffee, for example) and then does a keystroke on either Safari or AOL upon her return, she's told she's disconnected and must sign on again. Comcast came out last week and exchanged her modem for a newer one. It seemed to help the problem for a few days, but by week's end, the disconnect issue had returned. FIOS is newly available in her area, and we've been discussing a possible switch to FIOS in hopes the connection issue will be solved. Any thoughts on this will be appreciated. FWIW: There's no way, none whatsoever, that her connection is anywhere near the 250gb limit. Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] junk filter problem with Thunderbird
The Junk mail feature in Thunderbird is less than optimal. That said, two things I can recommend: 1. add the users address to your address book 2. Use the message filters for your clients to have their emails automatically go to a subfolder If those don't work you may wish to reset the junk mail training data and let it start learning all over again b/c something got corrupted ToolsOptionsPrivacyJunk is the menu path Hope that helps, JL Nick wrote: I'm using Thunderbird 2.0.0.17. For the most part it functions well however when it comes to the junk filter, not so good. It keeps putting legitimate email (some from important clients) in the junk mail folder. No matter how many times I mark it as not junk and making sure their email address is in my address books. This happens on both my PCs (Vista and XP) and my iMac. Any ideas on how to fix this? TIA Nick Crettier Front Royal, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Adobe Reader 9 - alternatives
Tony B wrote: FWIW on the PC I've been using Foxit PDF reader lately. http://www.download.com/Foxit-Reader/3000-2079_4-10313206.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * There's also something called PrimoPDF that lets you create PDFs. I haven't compared it to Foxit PDF but it works okay for the price (the full adobe is usually better but that's comparing it to the free version of this product so not a fair fight). http://www.primopdf.com/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Adobe Reader 9 - alternatives caveat emptor
Tony B wrote: FWIW on the PC I've been using Foxit PDF reader lately. http://www.download.com/Foxit-Reader/3000-2079_4-10313206.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * *I hasten to add that while I have not encountered spyware or calls home to the mothership with this product I cannot vouch that the product doesn't do that b/c I haven't used it extensively. * There's also something called PrimoPDF that lets you create PDFs. I haven't compared it to Foxit PDF but it works okay for the price (the full adobe is usually better but that's comparing it to the free version of this product so not a fair fight). http://www.primopdf.com/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Funny article on Vista woes
Vista Woes Since I manage alot (about 40) of Windows machines as a side-task of my main job, I decided I would be a farsighted employee and so when buying my new laptop I went against my better judgment and purchased Vista. And since I thought I should make sure I had all the available bells whistles I paid extra for Vista Ultimate on a Lenovo Thinkpad. Ouch! Seven months later I'm convinced the extra features meant extra headaches because the Lenovo in particular does not play well with this flavor of Vista. Vista Enterprise seems more stable - I don't know why. Vista Home Premium seems more stable than Ultimate but does not function well on a business network. So I very much enjoyed this article: http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=9199tag=nl.e539 Path Dependence I hope Vista will be improved by the time SP2 rolls around. I really do, because I doubt I will be using non-Windows machines for my professional work by then. The Mac users on this forum may be underestimating the power of Qwerty - aka path dependence - and so even if as they contend Mac is vastly superior it's unlikely to shift the balance much more in the current generation (which is why I suspect they are targeting the youth market). I have been playing with Linux Ubuntu for my personal stuff and have worked with Macs a little bit because the other part of our organization is *all* Macs. I think the ability to dual boot right now gives Linux an advantage for people migrating away from Windows (and the Wubi software method of installing helps - though you have to be careful to back up everything before installing it because it did screw up one of my computers) plus the cost of course. Parallels looks really cool but when I ask the IT guys on the Mac side of our organization they say it's nice but still has problems. If Mac wants to attract away more Windows users from the current generation of users I think they need to improve that software a little bit because most users/businesses/organizations really need a good set of training wheels to reassure them that the switch won't spell disaster. And why no sub-menu mouse button - would it really be so wrong to add that? Cheers, JL * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] LHC
I understand that the dangerous stuff where we could be swallowed in a black hole doesn't start for a few months. Brings to mind the bets they took at Los Alamos about whether the first a-bomb in Alamogordo would set fire to the atmosphere. And only slightly more media coverage of this one - beatin zero ain't no boast. mike wrote: So in a little over seven hours the Large Hadron Collider will be switched on...any takers on if we'll all survive? I've set up a google alert to my cell phone for the big event. The question is if all goes wrong, will I get the msg before or after? http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/ Mike * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Google Desktop/Chrome: what information is shared with the mother ship?
The Google Chrome EULA has many privacy issues that may affect state agencies. But these could be issues for businesses as well. I recall a similar issue with the Desktop program which after replacing the very nice and non-evil Deskbar search basically mapped your computer and any connected servers (with company/organization/agency data on them) if you let it. Many users allow it to do this without any concern and the IT people have to gauge how vigilant to be regarding this usage. Any sense about the extent of the information mapped that is transmitted back to google - is all of it? Does the browser have any of the same issues considering that as I understand it Google used an old version of WebKit and Chrome is full of security holes. http://blogs.zdnet.com/topic/Google+Chrome.html Regarding the EULA: You retain copyright and any other rights that you already hold in Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content, you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Linux - it's not just for breakfast anymore
Recently been playing with Ubuntu. One thing that really surprised me (which shows how wide eyed naive I am) is how with the Ubuntu boot disk my supposedly secured files in XP are wide open. I can take an external hard drive and copy them over - no problem! I was both pleased and displeased by this having foolishly reinstalled Windows XP Pro over the old without first unencrypting my user folder - voila! they were all there but no longer accessible. I had a backup of the stuff but the user folders were taking up space and I couldn't delete them so before reinstalling/erasing them I just wanted to make sure I had indeed gotten everything. Recalling my surprise over the Ubuntu DVD boot disk I decided to try it and yes I could see everything and copy it over. But I could not delete the NTFS files. Still, having secured my files onto the external hard drive, I reinstalled deleting prior junk. So mission accomplished but many security worries flowed from that. More recently, I heard about Red Hat/Fedora having had servers compromised. Here are the relevant advisories: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-August/msg00012.html http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0855.html http://www.redhat.com/security/data/openssh-blacklist.html Perhaps I'm burying the lead here but it seems that Linux has grown up to have its own issues. I recall years ago on The Computer Guys how John Gilroy argued that once Mac or Linux gained a share of the market they would become targets and would have more security concerns. Tom Piwowar countered with the inherent flaws in Microsoft's os which he deemed the straw stirring the drink. Now Linux has gained a foothold in the server world and Mac is increasing at the desktop level. Would be interested to know others' thoughts on these security areas especially as the three operating systems begin to permit more cross platform accessibility. I also remember a quip by Tom that Linux was a great tool to show PC users what it's like to be a Mac user trying to use a PC. You mean it doesn't do this automatically?!!! Cheers, JL * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] DSL line lightning
I know we've had this discussion before, but I will repeat it for the sake of those who've not taken part in the past: My husband and I have UPS / surge suppressors (Uninterrupted Power Supply) on every piece of electronics we value, even on some that don't recommend it like my Phaser printer. Where we live, we get many -- sometimes hundreds a day -- of those blips in power. Weird because it's only on some of our circuits. Occasionally our whole house loses power (squirrels killing themselves on the local transformer, happens once or twice a year). The UPS keeps the power humming to whatever devices, even when the power is completely gone. Certainly a direct hit by lightening has the potential to knock out a UPS protected device, but they do protect against both surges and brown-outs. (Indeed, when power is decreased by the utility company, the UPS picks up the slack until either its battery is exhausted or recharged.) The cost of UPS devices has gone way down in the past 20 years. their power has gone way up. The cost of computers, printers, modems, etc. has come down too. But the UPS will keep these going except in the most dire of circumstances. FWIW, UPS devices are not recommended for printers. That said, my printer's UPS keeps it very happy. Hope this is helpful to at least some users out there. Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Camera Recommendation
Thanks to all for your kind suggestions. My husband assures me it's a lighting issue, so I'm letting him play with lighting (since he takes most of the pictures) to see if he's correct). You've all been very kind with ideas -- I'll be sure to suggest a piece of tape, or something else, vertical to help hold the focus on close-up images. This can easily be PhotoShopp'd out when I'm cropping images. Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:38:31 -0400 From:Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] The major problem is that it focuses, and then refocuses inappropriately, sometimes when I'm taking close-ups of ceramics and porcelain marks. Autofocus depends on having a vertical line in the frame, which you won't have with such a close up. Try using a piece of colored tape to add one to the frame. ** *** Date:Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:46:37 -0400 From:Steve Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, autofocus depends upon having areas of substantially differing contrast adjacent to each other within the focusing area. Steve ** *** From:db [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Camera recommendation? In the compact digital point and shoot models ... which is not what you seem to be looking for but is all I have experience with ... I suggest the Sony line. They have Zeiss lenses, are cheaper than other name brands, most still include a viewfinder, they have more lens zoom capability (4 or 5) and their menu systems are more user friendly than most. In the pro models, I hear that Canon is the brand most respected. , of course, if the tape idea doesn't work, I'll have hours of investigation. Mical * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Camera recommendation?
With thanks to everyone for previous recommendations (i love my Garvin 360. It really works great!), I'm asking for another recommendation. I primarily need to take pictures of things (mainly antiques which I occasionally offer for sale at local shows). Many close-ups. I need crisp pictures, especially of identifying marks on ceramics and porcelain. I am in the habit of cropping, adjusting for color, etc, using PhotoShop after the pictures have been snapped. I do use a light box to shoot most of the pictures I take for my business, but some things are too big to fit into it. A tripod is also available when I need it. And the odd family photo will also be taken. I also need jpg images that are of reasonable size for uploading to my website and others, therefore the picture files can't be hundreds of megabytes each. My computer of choice is my iMac. (Ok - it's my only computer, ergo my computer of choice.) Any particular preferences? Recommendations? Specifics re. reasons for recommendations are very much appreciated. Price, of course, is an object. (Isn't it always?) But I'm more interested in quality and ruggedness than a cheap price. This camera will replace a Nikon Coolpix 4500 which has been great, but which is getting a bit dated. The Nikon was originally purchased to take close-ups of small items, for which it is great, but I'm interested to know what's out now. Close-ups continue to be needed, so anything that takes close-ups to far-aways would be helpful. TIA for any and all suggestions. Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Camera Recommendation?
The price range is flexible, but I'm willing to spend up to $500 - $600 if necessary. This is a business expense, so I do get a tax credit. Tom P asked what I don't like about the Coolpix 4500. The major problem is that it focuses, and then refocuses inappropriately, sometimes when I'm taking close-ups of ceramics and porcelain marks. It actually ends up taking fuzzy pictures as a result. So I'm wondering if there's not something easier to use, something that I can set the focus on and force the camera to do as I ask, rather than what it wants. I'll check out the sites referred to in posts , if I decide to bite, I'll post how things play out. Mical Wimoth Carton [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is your price range That has a lot to do with it. Again I can't help but point you to Consumer Reports Web site they just recently reviewed cameras and I can't remember what they recommended. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Brand-new HP Photosmart Pro B8350 power problem
We set it up Monday night, it worked fine. Last night my wife couldn't print. Today I looked at it. It is plugged in, but pressing the on button doesn't do anything (doesn't light up, etc.). Looking at the back, there is a green light next to where the power cord is connected. This light goes off a few seconds after the power is disconnected, and back on immediately after reconnecting. But nothing else. I haven't yet tried any diagnostics. If you have a suggestion, please copy me as I am a digest subscriber. Thanks! -- John Emmerling * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Web Politicking
http://whatsmyip.org/ gives you the full page with the Obama ad. http://whatismyip.org/ gives you your IP address in the upper left hand corner of a white page. Count the letters. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] USB cables
Common sense tells us that zeros weigh more than ones, consider how much more ink you need to display a zero than a one, or how many more pixels are required to display a zero. Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course you haven't. Everybody should know that the zeros travel faster than ones because they are lighter. It is just common sense. :) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wikipedia defies 180,000 demands to remove images of the Prophet
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So does Judaism and Christianity: Do not make an image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above... prohibits the construction or fashioning of idols in the likeness of created things (beasts, fish, birds, people) and worshipping them. So that World Wildlife calendar you may have hanging on your wall is a problem. Same for your Obama or McCain poster. ...according to which reasoning the Hillary poster on your wall should offend no one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Word association
How's this? Windows = McCain Mac = Hillary Linux = Barack In the interest of full disclosure, I voted for Barack in the recent primary. --JE * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Word association
Oh, the irony! On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Steve at Verizon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You realize, that in your analogy, with respect to popularity, McCain wins in a landslide [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How's this? Windows = McCain Mac = Hillary Linux = Barack * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [IP] Re: U.S. Agents Seize Travelers' Devices
I don't know about obsessive, but I recently returned from a trip to Spain and had my belief reinforced in the fact that the security procedures in Madrid are better than ours. The difference, to my mind, is that they always have security people who interview each departing person, then even in the line to board the plane, they check back. They have been doing this sort of thing for many years, it's nothing new. This is in addition to the usual technology we have. Yes, they require you to remove your shoes, but they do offer plastic booties to wear while your shoes are off. What makes the difference to me is the addition of a human element to the overall process. Our security seems to me to depend too heavily on technology. Having said this, I have to add that I'm tired of hearing complaints about TSA from people who fancy themselves libertarian. As far as I can tell, the TSA people are doing the job they've been given to do, and anyway they don't make the policies. Intrusive security is far better than none. On 2/9/08 2:28, Eric S. Sande [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got it. Not to be too paranoid than usual, on my last trip TO the USA from France, the French were more obsessive about security than their counterparts in the USA. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] [IP] Re: U.S. Agents Seize Travelers' Devices
I'm sorry, my post was a direct response to the previous comment regarding airport security in France. I don't recall the original post. I can't recall having personally had any problems with Customs. I think they mostly harass foreigners. However it distresses me that there are people who are discouraged from travelling to the US because of horror stories they've heard regarding US customs, despite the favorable exchange rate. On 2/9/08 19:35, David Chessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read it again. It's not the TSA. It's customs, and it's not clear what threat they're defending against: pornography, or perhaps you have some drugs in your hard drive. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] What to charge for contract to develop web content?
For the record (from http://www.marylandtaxes.com/special_session/default.asp): Sales and Use Tax - Computer Services - The special session of the Maryland General Assembly resulted in changes to the Maryland sales and use tax statutes. The legislature also extended the sales and use tax to certain computer services effective July 1, 2008. The Comptroller's Office will release additional information regarding the taxability of these services in the near future. Please continue to visit this Web site as information related to this subject will be posted here as a means to inform all businesses about how this may impact their operation. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive from 1/1/2000 is on the MARC http://marc.info/?l=computerguys-l * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Internet Radio Beats Digital
Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kinda novice are you?? It's a dead link!! ...or maybe it's only gud4 macs!! ;^) Works for me. It must be information Microsoft does not want you to have. Dude, the obvious problem is a line break. I used tinyurl to fix: http://tinyurl.com/2zgfec Good luck! * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] MS IE 7
I would avoid 3rd-party toolbars with IE 7. IIRC, my wife had the Comcast toolbar, the Yahoo toolbar, and the Google toolbar all installed and IE7 was crashing. I don't know what you need any of these for. When I took these off, IE7 ran OK. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Upgrade Ubuntu Studio Feisty to Gutsy?
Hi, When I installed Ubuntu I got the Ubuntu Studio distribution basically because I thought it looked cool, not because I am an A/V enthusiast. Now I would like to upgrade to Feisty Fawn to Gutsy Gibbon. It is my impression that this is a routine procedure, but I am curious whether my not having a plain vanilla distribution will affect this? In addition I have NVIDIA drivers and am using the Beryl window manager (which I believe gets replaced with Compiz as part of the upgrade). Does this make a difference? I would hate to have reinstall the drivers manually. Plus without them, Compiz won't have a prayer of working. Basically, I just want things to still work after the process is complete! Thanks! --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Digital Photo Frame recommendation, usability in Europe?
We are visiting friends in Spain over New Year's and are considering appropriate gifts to bring. I come up with the idea of getting a Digital Photo Frame. First is the question of whether it could be made to work in Europe. Being a DC device, I suppose it should be OK with the correct adapter. I e-mailed an inquiry to a store in Chicago that specializes in this sort of thing, and they recommended buying one of these (http://www.world-import.com/WSS630.htm) then plugging the original adapter into that. Any idea whether this would do the job? Otherwise, I would like to know if anybody has a recommendation. There are a number of models and makes available. This would be intended for use as an actual picture frame/conversation piece for use when entertaining (they have a large family), not as a substitute for somebody lacking a conventional computer. A larger display would be better, I think. Any suggestions? On a different topic, I was also considering getting pentop computers for their two older children (ages 10 and 11, I believe). They attend an English school, so the language would not be a barrier to their using it, although it might be more interesting to them as a curiosity rather than being of genuine use to them in school. Being a battery-operated device (I assume), I can't imagine any problem using one in Europe, is that a reasonable assumption? Thanks! --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Not Provide Safari 2.0.2, or 2.0.3, or 2
Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OP should probably go ahead and start using the Safari 3.x beta. It looks as though it's stable enough for daily use. Safari 3 beta is working on CSS3 compliance, which nobody has got right yet. Unfortunately, this leaves the OP's question unanswered. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Apple Will Not Provide Safari 2.0.2, or 2.0.3, or 2.0.4
Don't waste your time with Safari, it's a bad browser. I will spare you a diatribe on just how bad it is. Although I am not personally a Mac user, I can still confidently recommend Camino (http://caminobrowser.org/) as the way to immensely improve your browsing experience. You'll never go back. snip Apple Will Not Provide Safari 2.0.2, or 2.0.3, or 2.0.4. Why? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Anti Virus Software
Uh, the poster said free??? On 10/24/07, Dr. Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you consider the best free Anti Virus Software? OS X. What is a virus? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Anecdotal Comparison of Broadband Service Worldwide
I have had similar experiences. Red Roof Inns and their ilk provide broadband free of charge, but upscale places typically charge $9.95 per day, more or less. I stayed at the Hyatt in downtown Indianapolis in August, and I just got back from a Marriott in Newton, MA and both charged. I have an even bigger complaint regarding bargain vs. upscale hotels (somewhat ot): small places (like the motel I stayed at in Ann Arbor in June) tend to give you normal cable channels, but the nice places restrict you to some subset of what you'd get at home (even with basic cable). Does anybody know why this is? As far as other countries are concerned, I stayed in a number of hotels in Japan this summer. Some were nicer than others, but the only one that charged for broadband access was a resort near Mt. Fuji. I can recall staying at a hotel in Nagoya which is used by many locals as a catering hall for weddings (they take weddings very seriously in Japan); I'd say it was at least the equivalent of the Marriott in Newton, and no charge for broadband. As for quality of service, I'm no judge of that. I very seldom notice a slow connection unless it's egregiously slow. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Mac Administrator
You should be using NIS (http://www.bresink.com/osx/nis.html) or something similar to manage user security (I am familiar with NIS but this article suggests there may be more appropriate solutions for a all-Apple network). Users should be authenticating to a nameserver and should be able to log onto any machine on the network. Local user ids should exist as a fallback for when the network is unavailable, but I can see no reason why an application such as you describe (what exactly is it?) would use local ids. On 10/11/07, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yes, the much vaunted Mac ease of use. 2 examples from this past week: 1 - I wanted to change the short name of the root admin, so that all of my Macs had the same one. The consultant I used to deploy these used several different short (and long) names, bless them. I wanted to change it as I have an application that scans the network and creates an up-to-date hardware inventory, which it does effortlessly for my PCs. *40* steps to do this. 40. If you don't make things worse doing it. I can't even figure out what you are talking about. You can certainly have more than one user with the privileges you need. You shouldn't be using root to do the hardware inventory - that is a security violation. You should be creating a user just for this purpose with just the privileges needed. I can see you actually logging in as Administrator on hundreds of Windows machines - all with the same password. Yow! That is scary. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Nye, the anti-God Science Guy
It may be a bit late in the thread to return to the original debate. However, being a highly secular person myself, I have to fault Mr. Nye for having pointed out the inaccuracy of the biblical text as part of his lecture. Anybody who made it through elementary school knows that the moon does not produce its own light. The only exception might be somebody so committed to literal interpretation that they would refuse to believe empirical evidence if they thought it contradicted scripture. Such a person will not benefit from being told anything contrary to their beliefs. By seeming to challenge biblical text (even in a light-hearted manner), Mr. Nye may have made more people uncomfortable than just those who vocally opposed him. Furthermore, it can be legitimately claimed that the Moon does provide light at times when the Sun is not below the horizon, which to me seems a legitimate interpretation of the passage. In my opinion, this kind of attitude gives secularists a bad name and religious extremists ammunition they don't need. --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Vista -- XP Pro
I followed up on this statement. I contacted both students. One of the two, who I believe purchased a Lenovo, had considered a downgrade but found he got acceptable performance after removing everthing from the Startup folder (or Vista equivalent). So only one actually downgraded. I am pasting my inquiry and his response verbatim. The conclusion seems to be that if your license is at a high enough level to give you downgrade privileges, it doesn't matter how you obtain your copy of the product (which may answer Betty's question depending on the level of her Vista license): ***quote: It didn't cost me anything - I didn't have a XP Pro CD so what I had to do was slipstream a copy of windows xp from another computer and install it from that. That part was really frustrating, but with an XP Pro disk it'd be really easy. Activation was simple though, I just called up the number Microsoft gives and gave them my Vista product id. You should check for what downgrade rights your system has first, though. I had business which can be downgraded to Pro. -Chris On 8/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How did you do it? Did it cost extra? Thanks! --John Emmerling ***end quote: Too bad. I have an XP Pro CD I could have lent him =). Did they purchase XP, or did the laptop mfg do a free downgrade? This empirical evidence may contribute to the discussion: My son is starting freshman year at college. Two of his friends ordered new laptops through their Universities, which were delivered with Vista. Both students are Comp. Sci./Engineering majors. Both have since gotten downgrades. On 5/25/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: etc. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Vista -- XP Pro
I don't know, what does your lawyer say? On 8/8/07, b_s-wilk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any way to use a Dell XP Pro installer on a Compaq notebook? Thx Betty * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Vista -- XP Pro
This empirical evidence may contribute to the discussion: My son is starting freshman year at college. Two of his friends ordered new laptops through their Universities, which were delivered with Vista. Both students are Comp. Sci./Engineering majors. Both have since gotten downgrades. My son didn't have this problem. He ordered through the University of Maryland, so his laptop came with XP Pro standard. He is in no hurry to upgrade. I doubt that any of the students who got downgrades did so simply to make a statement. --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Tom, Reformat Annually?
It had always been my understanding that registry cleaners were basically placebos. What do you use? On 6/13/07, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that many, many years ago you recommended that a computer's hard drive should be reformatted annually. Then reinstall the OS, applications, and data. Not at all necessary for Macs. Some people follow this regimen with PCs. I have so much software installed on my PC that this would be impractical. So I rely on scandisk and registry cleaning. So far so good for three years. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Dell Preferred Account?
Dell is offering 3 interest-free months if you open a Dell Preferred Account before 06/27: https://financing.dell.com/financing/app.aspx?itemtype=CFGs=dfhl=encs=22c=usdoc=dpa_info; I would like to open an account, buy a computer, make a couple of minimum payments, then pay off the balance at the end of the 3-month period. I can't find anything in the fine print (at the bottom of the page referenced above) to suggest that I can't do this, however I am suspicious because this would deprive Dell of any income due to the cost of enrolling me in this program. Can anybody see a reason why I would not get away with this? Thanks! --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS]
Re: Sanity Check before installing Ubuntu If it's bootable, then you can boot from it. Stephen Brownfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I put Ubuntu on an external Firewire hard drive and boot from that? If I press the option key when booting my Mac it lists the bootable disks to choose from. Steve * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Sanity Check before installing Ubuntu
For those who were paying attention: I posted earlier that I would try the method described in: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179902 I want to report that this worked amazingly well! --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] Need recommendation for high-end (non-Apple) laptop
Hi, I am looking for recommendations for a laptop having the following features: Suitable for Gaming (ideally advertised as a gaming laptop) 17 screen Intel Core Duo processor 4GB RAM (of whatever flavor) Any other hardware requirement to support Aero Glass as well as can be hoped for given the shortcomings of the technology. I understand that to many, a high-end MacBook would be the only choice worth considering, however the intended recipient (a HS grad who has a full academic scholarship to UMCP) has said often and recently that he doesn't want one, so let's assume that the MacBook is a obvious choice and get past that. The aforementioned recipient has also expressed a fondness for ThinkPads (due to the esthetics?) but I wouldn't consider this more than a general guide. I would consider reliability and maintainability a bigger concern than cost. The major feature I am not eager to spend money on is HD video, due to my perception of this technology as immature (i.e. the DVD aspect, not broadcast/cable/satellite/etc.) Anybody with a strong reason to recommend a particular vendor or model, or against a particular vendor or model, please speak up (if the sound of crashing waves on the beach hasn't put you to sleep!). Thanks! --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Sanity Check before installing Ubuntu
On 5/22/07, Michael Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would something like the following work? Specify drive 1 (via the BIOS) as the boot drive, have the MBR created there and set up GRUB to boot Ubuntu off drive 1 and Windows off drive 0. If drive 0 is respecified as the boot drive, then it just boots Windows. So you have Windows on HD0 and Linux on HD1, and you change the boot disk in the BIOS every time you want to run the other OS. I would find this annoying, but, yeah, it might work. The most likely reason I can think of for this not to work is that Windows may not like being booted this way. As long as you don't move the HD with the original Windows installation, it shouldn't complain. Any chance of success? I have no intention of changing the boot disk in the BIOS every time I want to switch OS. The idea is to make the new drive (hd1) the boot disk, and have GRUB set up (on that disk) to load Windows from its current home on hd0. The idea was that if hd1 were to fail, Windows would still work if the boot disk were to be switched back to hd0. But I'm not planning for either drive to fail. Likewise, if hd0 were to fail, it should be easy to recover (although I'm not certain what steps would be required, but since we would then be dealing with Linux, I'm assuming more options would exist). Vicky, does this change your answer now that I have clarified my proposal? BTW, I am not a complete newbie. I have prior experience setting up dual boot configurations combining Windows and Linux on the same system, but always by partitioning a single hard drive. I have used both Partition Magic and Disk Druid (or whatever the Mandrake equivalent was called) for partitioning, and I have used both GRUB and Boot Magic as a boot manager. Thanks! --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Sanity Check before installing Ubuntu
On 5/21/07, Michael Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) If you only want to try out Linux, you can completely remove the Windows drive and replace that with your spare drive. Install Linux and test/break that installation as you wish and your Windows disk is safe sitting on the shelf. etc. Would something like the following work? Specify drive 1 (via the BIOS) as the boot drive, have the MBR created there and set up GRUB to boot Ubuntu off drive 1 and Windows off drive 0. If drive 0 is respecified as the boot drive, then it just boots Windows. The most likely reason I can think of for this not to work is that Windows may not like being booted this way. Any chance of success? * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Sanity Check before installing Ubuntu
On 5/20/07, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took me mucho effort to get grub setup. I wanted to boot Linux (Suse) by default etc. If you aren't worried about what will happen if you remove your hard drive(s), then the default Linux install for most Linux distros today will set things up so that your boot menu will give you a choice to boot Windows but default to booting the distro you just installed. In other words, if you installed Linux today, it would be zero effort on your part to get what you wanted. I am now glad I asked this question. Ideally, I would like to retain the ability to boot the OS on the good drive should one of the drives fail. Does what you describe allow for this? Thanks! --John Emmerling * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
Re: [CGUYS] Macintosh help needed
My recommendation is to just get a wireless bridge, you can connect it to any computer using the ethernet jack regardless of operating system. I got one when I wanted to run Linux years ago when the chance of finding a reliable wireless card driver seemed chancy. Not cheap, but I'm certain you can scrounge one for less than $100 (especially if you buy used). --John Emmerling Roger D. Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, there is always the original Airport 802.11b card (for ~ $100). Yeah, I know: two chances - slim and none. * == QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in == * == the body of an email send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too much mail? Try Daily Digests command: SET COMPUTERGUYS-L DIGEST * Tired of the List? Unsubscribe command: SIGNOFF COMPUTERGUYS-L * New address? From OLD address send: CHANGE COMPUTERGUYS-L YourNewAddress * Need more help? Send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * List archive at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/ * RSS at www.mail-archive.com/computerguys-l@listserv.aol.com/maillist.xml * Messages bearing the header X-No-Archive: yes will not be archived
[CGUYS] When Mac agreed with a PC.
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