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Have you set your BIOS to boot from CD?

It might be a CD problem.

Pull the CD and see if you get the same error.

Stewart


At 05:37 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

When I set up the boot order to CD first, and put in the CD, I get the
prompt Press any key to continue which I do, but then I get the no
operating system error found error.

I had aborted the set up in mid stream previously, and haven't been
able to get through the process to start the reformat over.

Richard P.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:14 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why can't you start from CD and just reformat?

 On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've somehow messed up the re-formatting of my laptop hard drive when
 I was attempting to reinstall Windows XP. Now when I try to boot up
 with the CD, I get a No Operating System Found error. Is there a way
 to start this process over and salvage the hard drive?

 Thanks in advance

 Richard P.

 Windows XP
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Re: [CGUYS] Salvaging Hard Drive


OH GOD is hell freezing over?

Tom and I just agreed on something.

Stewart


At 06:31 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

Have you set your BIOS to boot from CD?

It might be a CD problem.

Pull the CD and see if you get the same error.

Stewart


At 05:37 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

When I set up the boot order to CD first, and put in the CD, I get the
prompt Press any key to continue which I do, but then I get the no
operating system error found error.

I had aborted the set up in mid stream previously, and haven't been
able to get through the process to start the reformat over.

Richard P.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:14 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why can't you start from CD and just reformat?

 On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've somehow messed up the re-formatting of my laptop hard drive when
 I was attempting to reinstall Windows XP. Now when I try to boot up
 with the CD, I get a No Operating System Found error. Is there a way
 to start this process over and salvage the hard drive?

 Thanks in advance

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Re: [CGUYS] Salvaging Hard Drive

If you got media with your Computer you can boot to the recovery CD 
and it will then start from the recovery partition.


I have never had problems with reformatting a drive on a Dell as it 
is a hidden partition not normally seeable to a Windows install CD.


Stewart

At 06:39 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:
Dell computers often have a recovery partition on the drive. You 
start up while holding down some F key and it restores you to 
original condition. This partition may also be interfering with your 
attempt to roll your own install.


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Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [CGUYS] Salvaging Hard Drive

Yes.  It is sometimes recommended that you do it this way so that 
when you need to reload you do not loose everything.


Should remember it when you do it.

Stewart


At 11:25 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

I'm slowly making progress. I think I created my own problem when the
prompt for removing the floppy came, I took it literally and didn't
remove the installation CD. I did partition the drive but made the C
drive only 10 GB. Can I get away with installing only the operating
system on C, and put everything else on D (which is 30GB), or should
I just start over?

One other thing, I've yet to be asked to register the system and I've
even loaded the Windows Validation Tool. Will this come up later or
did it somehow remember the authentication?

Thanks for all the input, it's been helpful.

Richard P.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
popoz...@earthlink.net wrote:
 If you got media with your Computer you can boot to the recovery CD and it
 will then start from the recovery partition.

 I have never had problems with reformatting a drive on a Dell as it is a
 hidden partition not normally seeable to a Windows install CD.

 Stewart

 At 06:39 PM 7/2/2010, you wrote:

 Dell computers often have a recovery partition on the drive. You start up
 while holding down some F key and it restores you to original condition.
 This partition may also be interfering with your attempt to roll your own
 install.

 Sent from my iPad

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Re: [CGUYS] Apple's iPad: Death knell for traditional Ma cintos h computers?

2010-06-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


I don't think it is that easy to make that judgement.

Just 10 years ago the 17 CRT monitor was considered a luxury.

In those days all coders and programmers sufficed on 15 monitors that 
had flicker problems and such.


The 15 laptop (really 15.4) is actually a little larger than the 
monitors we used in those days.


Really I started off on a 14 monochrome display.

Just how large a monitor do we need?  Just how many monitors do we need?

Does the corporation need to pay for a multiple monitor setup where 
one would suffice, just because the employee wants the latest and greatest?


There has to be a balancing act here that looks at the job and needs 
of the job, besides what the employee wishes for.


I just got a 22 flat panel for my office to replace my 17 CRT.  I 
was happy to get it, as it cost just a shade more than the 19 CRT I 
bought a few years ago that was a refurb.


Stewart

At 09:13 AM 6/30/2010, you wrote:

Well, a fifteen-inch laptop is still a far cry from an iPad--let
alone an orignal Mac (or an Osborn).  I'm sorry your brother and his
co-workers have to use a 15-inch laptop to code on all day; but here,
we're getting into the issue of workers versus corporations, rather
than consumer choice (of iPads and smartphones versus computers).

And iPhones may be cool, but they're still much too expensive for a
lot of people.  The mere fact that an iPhone does a lot of stuff does
not give me (or anybody else) the money to buy one, or the
wherewithal to pay the telephone bill.  This is serious money, folks;
and for something that can't do a lot of everyday functions, like
writing a book report or typing a letter.  It's really about how many
people can afford a luxury item, like a smartphone or an iPad.  For a
lot of us, the money just isn't there; and if it were, we would
probably spend it on a more useful device, like a computer of some
kind.  Or even on food and rent.

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Re: [CGUYS] Lawsuit: Dell knowingly shipped 12 million faulty computers

2010-06-30 Thread Stewart Marshall

It also mentioned that Dell was not the only company hit by these bad 
capacitors, but also HP and Apple.


Seems Dell made the mistake of trying to cover it up.

Remember it is not the 2 bit problem that sinks you but the 4 star 
cover up.  (rephrasing words spoken about Nixon)


Stewart



At 09:53 AM 6/30/2010, you wrote:

Capacitor leaks are serious business. When a capacitor blows out, not
only does the device in question die an instant death, it might even
catch fire.   So when the New York Times reports on freshly unsealed
documents from a lawsuit alleging that Dell, over the course of two
years, sold almost 12 million Optiplex machines with leaky capacitors
to companies large and small, you know there's pain ahead for Dell
whether the company wins the suit or not.

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Re: [CGUYS] Apple's iPad: Death knell for traditional Ma cintos h computers?

2010-06-30 Thread Stewart Marshall

That is pretty much the mantra of advertising until it comes to 
Politics and there we get nothing but the ugly.


Stewart


At 12:01 PM 6/30/2010, you wrote:

  Well put.

  Conspicuous and consumptive consumerism is most definitely a key
component of almost all advertising for cell phones, smart ones or
otherwise, along with constant unbridled joy.  Part of the advertising
imagery is that having such devices will apparently help to make one
rich as well as popular, providing the funding necessary to be able to
routinely eat out, go to the theater, take in the show, just generally
always having fun with a happy smile upon your face.  Never will you
see an ad where a cell phone is delivering any bad news.  All cell
phone calls generate happiness and abundant joy.  Not at all as in
real life.  No bill collectors there or anyone pleading, Help me.
I've fallen and I can't get up.

  But, hey, it's marketing at its best...or worst.  Countless folks
actually buy into it, living out huge portions of their daily lives on
personal cell phones, spending hours a day gaping at or talking into a
box in their hand, and that thing appears to be the most important
aspect of their existence.  These are also the folks that the cell
phone industry depend upon the most, the junkies.

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Re: [CGUYS] Lawsuit: Dell knowingly shipped 12 million faulty computers

2010-06-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Yeah a 155 not a 105.

Stewart

At 09:01 PM 6/30/2010, you wrote:

I liked the fact that they sent a batch of the bad computers to their own
lawyers and refused to make good on the faulty equipment. Talk about
shooting yourself in the foot with a howitzer.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Stewart Marshall
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

It also mentioned that Dell was not the only company hit by these bad
capacitors, but also HP and Apple.

Seems Dell made the mistake of trying to cover it up.

Remember it is not the 2 bit problem that sinks you but the 4 star cover
up. (rephrasing words spoken about Nixon)

Stewart

At 09:53 AM 6/30/2010, you wrote:

Capacitor leaks are serious business. When a capacitor blows out, not
only does the device in question die an instant death, it might even
catch fire. So when the New York Times reports on freshly unsealed
documents from a lawsuit alleging that Dell, over the course of two
years, sold almost 12 million Optiplex machines with leaky capacitors
to companies large and small, you know there's pain ahead for Dell
whether the company wins the suit or not.

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Re: [CGUYS] iPhone 4, Engineering thoughts

2010-06-29 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

With ATT those extreme cases seem to matter much more than with 
another carrier.


Stewart


At 01:17 AM 6/29/2010, you wrote:
Because it doesn't matter in normal use. It appears that it may 
matter in some extreme cases. You are insisting that they must 
design their product for the extreme case and make the rest of us 
suffer the consequences. You have not explained why they must do 
such a silly thing. You just insist that they must.


Sent from my iPad

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 However, you simply refuse to say that Apple could have
 done better in this instance, thus I am left to puzzle over why you
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Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd

2010-06-26 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Yes although a right hander I use my left hand for phone calling 
almost exclusively.


I think it also has to do with hearing problems in the right one.

Stewart


At 09:27 AM 6/26/2010, you wrote:

I've seen this in some of the forums regarding the issue..calling it a lefty
issue as if there are so few left handed people that it's not a huge
problem.  I don't know about right handers on the list, but I hold my phone
almost exclusively with my left hand.  Anyone else?

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 6:50 AM, MrMike6by9 mrmike6...@gmail.com wrote:



 PS - They are doing maintenance on the Forums at the moment. Later, I can
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Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd

2010-06-25 Thread Stewart Marshall

NO with these reports are the fact that calls get dropped when the 
person does this.


Apple has confirmed that the antenna is in this area, and people 
should, hold their phones differently.


Stewart


At 10:48 AM 6/25/2010, you wrote:
There is speculation that part of the problem may be with the 
software that displays the bars.


Sent from my iPad

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 We did verify the same
 problem that is being reported everywhere, holding the phone as any normal
 right handed person would hold it, in about 20 seconds all bars disappear
 from the meter at the top of the phone, we didn't check to see how it
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Re: [CGUYS] iphone 4, running with the herd

2010-06-25 Thread Stewart Marshall

Sorry there are so many stories out about it right now hard to keep 
them straight.


Thought they would have done more real world testing on it before releasing it.

I read an article that said this one seems to have more problems than usual.

Stewart


At 11:08 AM 6/25/2010, you wrote:
You are mixing up two stories. How you grab any phone does matter 
and even walking around with the phone does matter. But the story of 
the number of bars changing when the iPhone is touched a certain way 
is suspected to be a different issue.


Sent from my iPad

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Re: [CGUYS] The Fate of the Internet -- Decided in a Back Room

2010-06-24 Thread Stewart Marshall


As was said this morning on a program discussing lobbying.

It is a legalized form of bribery.

Stewart


At 08:58 PM 6/24/2010, you wrote:

This is what a failed democracy looks like: After years of avid public
support for Net Neutrality - involving millions of people from across
the political spectrum - the federal regulator quietly huddles with
industry lobbyists to eliminate basic protections and serve Wall
Street's bottom line.

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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


Typical arrogance from someone on the East Coast.

Just because a lot of folks live there does not make you the be all 
to the end all.


We do matter.  Just because you do not care about us does not really matter.

This is what leads to a lot of intolerance from many sides.

Stewart


At 01:25 PM 6/18/2010, you wrote:
This is a major chunk of the country. Why should the future wait for 
you laggards?


Sent from my iPad

On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

 What you fail to realize is that you live in a unique area.
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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I am a subscriber to Netflix and view Netflix movies on my computer 
and my WII on the wide screen TV (Streamed)


Few drawbacks yet.

New releases usually are not on the view menu.  Because of Studio 
agreements and what not they usually take some time before you can 
watch them this way.  (and usually do not till they are a few years old.)


Closed Captions.  Most movies (they are working to improve this) do 
not have closed captions available. My wife hates it because I have 
to turn the TV up to hear the movie.


Limited menu.  As I stated before not all movies are available in 
this manner, and the list is constantly changing.  (Some studios 
actually pull movies from the list.)


Not too long ago the studios started penalizing Netflix (and Redbox) 
by not allowing them the new releases on the same day as the stores 
got them for sale.  They did this because of money once again.  In 
their minds they sell more movies in the month following a new 
release than they do after this date and if they can prevent 
consumers from being able to rent these movies in that time frame 
they feel they can make up their investment.  So Netflix and Redbox 
have come to agreements with the studios (the honest truth is the 
studios blackmailed and arm twisted them into it.) and all is OK 
right now (you simply wait a month till you can rent it.)  It is 
interesting that the only video rental company who did not have this 
happen, already had a kickback agreement with the studio, Blockbuster 
(which is going down the tubes)


Studios will have to be the first ones to change this problem.

I agree being able to stream the entertainment is neat.  But until 
you can truly stream the movies you want instead of what Hollywood 
will allow you too, BR and DVD will still be the preferred method of 
distribution.


Stewart


At 12:30 PM 6/17/2010, you wrote:
BR is yesterday's answer. Look at what NetFlix is doing to see what 
replaced it.


Sent from my iPad

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 Well Jobs does make bags of money from selling media as he does...I know
 he's leaving out a lot of people though who know for now, BR is
 a necessary item in any serious entertainment system.  Also he was talking
 about licensing two years ago, BR has taken off, there is no 
other option on

 the market anymore.


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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-17 Thread Stewart Marshall


What you fail to realize is that you live in a unique area.

From DC north to NYC and the environs have the highest density of 
population on the east coast and the companies that serve that area 
put a large share of their resources in that area to ensure good 
above average Internet connectivity.


If you live on the west coast of CA between SF and SD you again have 
a high density of population and get great Internet service.


It is the area in between that has the problems.  It is spotty to say 
the least.


By the end of the year we should have some good competition in the 
cable network here in town.  A new company is rolling out service and 
putting up the infrastructure right now.  My service provider is 
worried.  It is offering great deals on service, but I must sign up 
for a long term contract.


I will wait.

Stewart





At 06:15 PM 6/17/2010, you wrote:
The only people I know who can't manage a decent broadband 
connection are on his list. And the DC area is not all that 
advanced. To get g4 I would have to go to Baltimore. Enough of the 
country has sufficiently advanced connectivity that I think the 
future is not in peril.


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Re: [CGUYS] New Mac Mini

2010-06-16 Thread Stewart Marshall


Apple has always made a nice profit on their hardware.

Apple above all else has always been about hardware.

The Iphone, Ipad, Touch etc. is all about hardware.

They have made a good OS to go along with their hardware but make 
their profit from hardware sales.


Stewart


At 11:01 AM 6/16/2010, you wrote:

Yeah, I know...it *is* very nice, I don't fault Apple at all for hardware
design.  But they sure make you pay for it.

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

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Re: [CGUYS] Seeing only part of the conversation?

2010-06-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


You mean the list is BI?

Stewart


At 12:22 PM 6/16/2010, you wrote:

Be sure to also subscribe to our Yahoo list. This list swings both ways.

Details at guys.org

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Re: [CGUYS] Seeing only part of the conversation?

2010-06-16 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


Oh so we go all ways.  :-)

Stewart


At 02:06 PM 6/16/2010, you wrote:

On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:59 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

You mean the list is BI?


Actually 4 ways. Lets not leave out the Linux and Commodore folks. I
don't know about those Amiga folks though.


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Re: [CGUYS] buying at laptop at Staples?

2010-06-14 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


Each Big Box store has different return policies.

This is usually for plain old returns.  If it is longer that means 
you can bring it back if it fails also.  (sometimes)


Double check the pricing and see if the same laptop is available at a 
store that matches prices.  Occasionally  stores will have a special 
model that cannot be found or compared at another store, but they 
will have a similar one that they will not do a price match on.


Whenever you buy from any retailer it really is Cavet Emptor

Stewart


At 03:25 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote:

A relative offered to buy a laptop and wants to get one he saw in an
advertisement at Staples.  Not sure which one he has in mind, but am a bit
nervous about getting a computer there, given they only give you 2 weeks to
return electronics.  Is that a standard amount of time for returns for
computers at most stores?  Anyone have experiences (good or bad) buying a
computer from Staples?

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Re: [CGUYS] more problems could be ahead for the iPad

2010-06-14 Thread Stewart Marshall

The larger the user base the device/OS has the more people will take 
opportunities to try and hack it.


Plus with Ipad being a high priced user tool, that means MONEY!

I cant remember the program, but always follow the money.

Stewart


At 05:08 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote:

http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/14/technology/att_ipad_hack/index.htm

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A day after ATT fessed up to its iPad 3G
customers about a security breach, the hackers that exploited the
vulnerabilityhttp://money.cnn.com/2010/06/09/technology/iPad_email_breach/index.htm?postversion=2010061009
in
ATT's website said there are still lurking security problems related to the
iPad.

In a blog post, hacker group Goatse Security said Monday that a skilled
attacker could take advantage of a weakness in the iPad's Safari Internet
browser. The browser's bug could potentially allow someone to gain unwanted
access to a user's iPad when that user clicks a malicious link.


Looks like we could be seeing the fruition of Apple's increasing footprint
on the web as it relates to their lack of security...or rather that their
programmers are human beings after all and not angelic code machines who
don't make mistakes.  But then those who thought about it for more than
three seconds knew this was the case.  In either case, looks like Apple
users will be seeing an increase in security updates for their mobile
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Re: [CGUYS] The AOL LISTSERV is back up. Let's see if it works.

2010-06-13 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


I normally do not signup on Yahoo groups with my yahoo address.

I use that for other tuff.

I use my earth link or other addresses.

Stewart


At 02:18 PM 6/13/2010, you wrote:

Is it possible to be signed up on Yahoo and simultaneously get the messages
in one's (non-Yahoo) e-mail?

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Brian Jones wjone...@carolina.rr.comwrote:

 Me too.
  I left it turned on as well.
  - Brian


 On 6/13/2010 1:11 PM, tjpa wrote:

 On Jun 12, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Fred Holmes wrote:

 Well, if the AOL Listserv is back up, this message should be distributed.


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[CGUYS] Interesting article about Apple vs. Google

2010-05-14 Thread Stewart Marshall


http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/company-news/google-apple-mobile-advertising/19475893/?icid=main|main|dl4|link7|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyfinance.com%2Fstory%2Fcompany-news%2Fgoogle-apple-mobile-advertising%2F19475893%2F#

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Re: [CGUYS] Apple drops OS X awards

2010-05-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


That is fine but don't tell me what I want.  I know what I need!!!

Plus Apple has already marginalized me by not going to the carrier I 
need in this area.


They have made some cagy business moves but that also means some of 
us just wont bite.


Stewart


At 09:24 AM 5/11/2010, you wrote:

On May 10, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

Actually I have looked at it and I want a phone with a physical
keypad!


I keep reading reports of people who insisted they needed a physical
keyboard, discovering that a virtual keyboard works fine. I have also
read that the Apple implementation works far better than Android's.


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Re: [CGUYS] NPD reports Android ahead of iPhone in share


Does not surprise me.

They seem to have many models and many modes of entry into the market.

I think Verizon has at least 4 different Android models right now.

And that is just Verizon.  I think every Cell carrier has at least 
one Android model at present.


Stewart


At 04:06 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:

NPD reported Android hit 28% over Apple's 21% share for smartphone.  Could
this be why Apple is screwing with their developers?  Heaven forbid they
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Re: [CGUYS] NPD reports Android ahead of iPhone in share

My Son and his companion did just that this week and they both are 
running Droids.


My youngest is waiting till the end of the month to do so.  But he is 
also getting the droid.


Stewart


At 04:29 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:

On May 10, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

They seem to have many models and many modes of entry into the market.


And a buy one get one free deal. That would double their numbers
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Re: [CGUYS] Apple drops OS X awards

It was just announced today the Sprint/Nextel will not support the 
Goggle Nexus One phone but will back a lesser model the HTC EVO that 
runs android software.


So Googles marketing plan on a phone for networks may not work out 
well.  But their software seems to be a big hit.


Stewart


At 04:40 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:

The real Steve says you are all wet (but what does he know?).

Steve Jobs says Apple isn't de-emphasizing the Mac
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Actually I have looked at it and I want a phone with a physical keypad!

I also looked at the Droid and found it a touch heavy for me.

Presently I have a Palm Pre.

Stewart


At 07:23 PM 5/10/2010, you wrote:

Actually that 4g phone is better than the nexus in most every respect.
The nexus was cutting edge for about ten minutes, then HTC started
releasing better phones..the 4G, the incredible. Might want take a
look at Verizon's version of the newest HTC.

Sent from my iPod

On May 10, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
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 It was just announced today the Sprint/Nextel will not support the
 Goggle Nexus One phone but will back a lesser model the HTC EVO that
 runs android software.

 So Googles marketing plan on a phone for networks may not work out
 well.  But their software seems to be a big hit.

 Stewart


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 The real Steve says you are all wet (but what does he know?).

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Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?

2010-05-06 Thread Stewart Marshall

I have already used this approach once  when someone got infected 
with this XP antivirus scam.


They are getting worse and will literally paralyze the system from 
doing anything, even in safe mode, so the only option is to run the boot disk.


These have all been windows XP systems.  Have not run into it yet with 7.

Stewart


At 11:18 AM 5/6/2010, you wrote:

On May 5, 2010, at 5:57 PM, Brian Jones wrote:

I was recently installing Trend Micro's AV for a customer when an
error occurred.  When tried to uninstall to start over, there was no
uninstall routine available. So I re-ran the install and got more
errors (different from the prior time).  I repeated the cycle and it
continued to get worse.


I have had similar problems with Notron and BitDefender. I suspect
that all antiviral software has to make itself hard to remove. If they
didn't the next virus that came along could easily uninstall it.  The
best defense is to not run defective OSs.

More and more I like the idea of periodically booting into Linux from
a CD and then running a virus scanner from there. BitDefender has such
a disk and it is free. It creates a RAM disk and downloads the latest
definitions. Then it runs against the inactive Windows drive. That
means it can bypass rootkits and other defenses that a virus could
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Re: [CGUYS] M$ Decline Continues

2010-05-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


I go between both Firefox and IE.

Occasionally I get a page with security (governmental web sites are 
notorious) that just do not function correctly with Firefox.


Stewart


At 12:23 PM 5/4/2010, you wrote:

  Just goes to prove once again that no person and no thing ever
remains at the top of the heap forever.  No big surprise, really,
especially considering the number of good and free web browser
applications now available.  I do not think that I am aware of any
computer user who runs IE.  It is either Firefox or Opera or Safari
for the most part these days from what I see.

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Re: [CGUYS] security softward - trendmicro - any information?

2010-05-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


I will check that one out. I have been using Avast Home.

Stewart


At 04:48 PM 5/4/2010, you wrote:

I like the free Comodo products.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Mother Geek g...@mothergeek.com wrote:

 Hi - I have a tech guru who wired my house who suggests dumping McAfee
 (even before last week's difficulty) and use Microtrend instead 
 www.trendmicro.com Have any of you used this successfully? Is there
 something else you'd recommend?


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Re: [CGUYS] Cuccinelli (was: illegal search warrant?)

2010-05-01 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


Ours is the exact opposite problem.

Our governor has gone rouge by getting a chosen appointee top bust 
every Bingo parlor in the state with midnight raids and no warrants 
claiming it is his right.


The AG has signed off on many of these when they have questioned him 
on wether or not they are legal.


They are in a pretty public spat on this one.  (Alabama law forbids 
gambling establishments.  Many folks have opened Electronic Bingo halls)


He even has threatened Federal gambling halls (Indian)

He is term limited so we will have a new on this fall.  What choices, 
Judge Roy (Ten Commandment) Moore to other candidates who are willing 
to discuss the gambling issue.


Stewart


At 02:54 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote:
And now he's on a witch hunt, demanding everything that Michael Mann 
has ever touched, seen, or thought about, whether it actually exists 
any more or not (and if not, you'd better know how, when, and
why it went away, and who else knows about how, why, and when it 
went away, and who else knew or might have known what was in it 
before it went away).


Bonus: He said that he was considering not getting a Social Security 
Number for his 7th child (!) because it is being used to track you.


He also seems to be a birther.

My favorite blog quote: Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli 
has only been in office since January, but he's already demonstrated 
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread Stewart Marshall


Lets correct things a little bit here.

A small group/committee decided this for the whole state.

Kind of dumb but that is how it works.

Similar problem in my church body a small group decides what our 
publishing house should put out.


Dont smear the whole state by this action.

But also remember they usually refer to themselves as a 
republic.  Such as the United States and the Republic of Texas.


Stewart


At 09:11 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote:

  Maybe it was actually because he had sex with a black woman.  At any
rate, Texas decided that they would include Phyllis Schlafly in
history textbooks as an example of a great and influential American
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-05-01 Thread Stewart Marshall

They have maintained for some time that they have a unique status 
within the USA.  (You might have heard the sound bite of their 
current governor a few months ago proposing secession?)


Of course this is all hogwash, but you know Texans bigger than snot 
and about as useful.


Stewart

At 09:55 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote:

They are a republic..just like the US.

On May 1, 2010 7:44 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
wrote:

Lets correct things a little bit here.

A small group/committee decided this for the whole state.

Kind of dumb but that is how it works.

Similar problem in my church body a small group decides what our publishing
house should put out.

Dont smear the whole state by this action.

But also remember they usually refer to themselves as a republic.  Such as
the United States and the Republic of Texas.

Stewart

At 09:11 PM 5/1/2010, you wrote:Maybe it was actually because he had
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


Actually I was half right.

Note the fine print of the map:

Based on death data from 2000 through 2006, this US map of the 
smoothed, county-level, age-adjusted suicide rates indicate that 
suicide rates are highest in the western and northwestern regions of 
the United States. There is also a notable pattern of high suicide 
rates among counties in the central areas of the midwest and southern 
regions and in central Florida.



They may be lower in density but they are not the norm.  The areas I 
was most familiar with (upper midwest) showed a lower suicide rate.


Also statistics can be misleading.

 1 suicide in an area of 300 is 1/300 of the population but it is 
still one.  10 suicides in a area of 10,000 is 1/1,000.  Not as large 
a statistical number but it is in reality over 3 times as many suicides.


I have dealt with the aftermath of suicide and it is never a fun 
topic nor easy to explain.  Many things go into it.


Stewart



At 10:09 PM 4/30/2010, you wrote:

Actually, the holiday suicide idea is a media-perpetuated falsehood:
http://www.snopes.com/holidays/christmas/suicide.asp

And I posted about this yesterday, but somehow the post didn't make
it to the list:  Stewart was wrong about suicide increasing
with population density.  It's exactly the opposite.  Massachusetts,
New York,  New Jersey and DC are among the most densely
populated states and have some of the lowest suicide rates,
while Alaska, Wyoming, Idaho, Montana have some of the
higher rates and are among the least densely populated.

If you want to see it visually by county, look at the two maps here
of the suicide rate and population density:

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/suicide/statistics/suicide_map.html
http://www.mapofusa.net/us-population-density-map.htm

You'll see a very good correspondence between low population
density and high suicide rates or between high population density and
low suicide rates.  And it's not just the US, it seems to be a
worldwide phenomenon:
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10398page=36
In China, the contrast between the rural and urban suicide
rates is particularly extreme.

 From:Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net
 Subject: Re: illegal search warrant?

   This is purely anecdotal, but aren't holidays the highest rate =
 for suicide, regardless of population size. Of course trying to =
 reinstall Windows probably should be lumped in there some place.=20


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 On Apr 29, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

 I believe that statistics show that the suicide rate increases the =
 higher density the population.
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?


Do your research before you flap your gums.

WRONG!

Stewart


At 05:11 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:56 PM, mike wrote:

That's why the murder rate in DC is one of the highest in the country.
Places where people walk around with guns is safer than those places
who
don't.


Towns with pop 10 usually do have lower murder rates, prolly have
higher suicide rates though. What about it?


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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

I believe that statistics show that the suicide rate increases the 
higher density the population.


Also during highly stressed conditions.

Stewart


At 05:22 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

Do your research before you flap your gums.

WRONG!

Stewart


At 05:11 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:56 PM, mike wrote:

That's why the murder rate in DC is one of the highest in the country.
Places where people walk around with guns is safer than those places
who
don't.


Towns with pop 10 usually do have lower murder rates, prolly have
higher suicide rates though. What about it?


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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

Tom having lived in the said communities most of my ministry I know 
the statistics.


Just not true.

Oh and they have a lot more firearms than you can count.  Most of it 
long barrel not short barrel.


Stewart


At 08:01 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 29, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

I believe that statistics show that the suicide rate increases the
higher density the population.


That's reported suicides. When nobody notices it doesn't get reported.
The sun just bleaches your bones.


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Re: [CGUYS] Some of you will find this tragic


Tom just put them on your bicycle they make a wonderful noise when you ride.

Stewart


At 08:03 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Robert Carroll wrote:

I still have some important punch cards.  Most of them are in the
right order.


Me too. And several cartons unused. What am I offered for 2000 cards
in pristine condition?


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And the whole punches make wonderful confetti (eco confetti) for weddings.

Stewart


At 09:11 PM 4/29/2010, you wrote:
You can use them to make lovely wreaths, too. Although, used ones 
(with punched holes) look a little better.


At 8:08 PM -0500 4/29/10, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:


Tom just put them on your bicycle they make a wonderful noise when you ride.

Stewart


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On Apr 29, 2010, at 8:00 PM, Robert Carroll wrote:

I still have some important punch cards.  Most of them are in the
right order.


Me too. And several cartons unused. What am I offered for 2000 cards
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Re: [CGUYS] fios renewal was:Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]


Whose bad mouthing it?  Kind of a neat car.

Lots of European clones of it also.

Stewart


At 08:07 AM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

Reverend, please don't bad-mouth my Honda Fit!

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 At least you can buy neat looking cars that perform also.

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I am not talking about the screamers.

Even many of their low end cars are neat looking compared to what is 
sold over here.


Stewart


At 12:00 AM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

I'll take a ford gt over those foreign screamers.

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Stewart Marshall 
revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote:

 At least you can buy neat looking cars that perform also.

 Makes it more fun to drive.

 Stewart



 At 10:14 PM 4/27/2010, you wrote:

 And if yer lucky and live in France, maybe you can get your car burned up!

 On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:02 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:

 
  Move to France and get TV, phone, Internet, cellular for $33/mo total.
 But
  you can't have that in the US. Too bad. Your elected representatives
 think
  they're supposed to represent the telcos instead of the customers.
 
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?

2010-04-28 Thread Stewart Marshall

Lousy analogy Tom. You act as if you have not read any of what has 
been written about this item.


The fact is the item was left by absent minded techie at bar.

Item was turned into bar tender who has no idea whose it is.(I 
wonder how many folks had been there that night and had phones?)


Good faith attempts were made to return said item to Apple, but 
because of Apples own compartmentalization no one knew what they were 
talking about.


I cant remember how the Gizmodo guy got it at that point but he did, 
he then did a review and took it apart analyzed etc. etc.


When he had it back together and working he sent it back.

It is only after the fact that they have raided the guys house and 
not charged him with anything.  I wonder what the search warrant said?


You have to lay part of the blame here at Apple for being careless 
with their tech stuff, and being a little paranoid.  This is not the 
first time someone has lost a prototype and someone else got it to 
look at and review.


This would make it one of the first times that the reviewer has been 
criminalized for someone elses careless behavior.


Is the Gizmodo guy totally innocent here, I don't think so, but he 
saw a chance to be one of the first to see review and look at a 
prototype of Iphone.


But I also see Apple going over the top here and making themselves 
look really really stupid and heavy handed.


Especially since they had the phone back already.

And I would venture to say if this had been a Windows Mobile 7 phone 
that had had this happen to it, you would be jumping up and down 
saying way to go Gimodo


You tend to be so predictable Tom.

Stewart


At 08:36 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:49 PM, mike wrote:

Sounds like you read half of Jason Calacanis's breakdown where he said
everyone involved including Apple were d#$ks.


I bet that if we were to come over to your house and help ourselves to
your belongings you would be singing a tune similar to Apple.


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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?


I did not know you were Jewish.

Stewart


At 09:16 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 28, 2010, at 9:54 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:

You tend to be so predictable Tom.


I sure am. Those old tablets Moses was carrying still have some
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Re: [CGUYS] illegal search warrant?


It has been referenced here online that the phone got returned.

Stewart


At 10:27 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

I've seen nothing about any attempts to return the phone..any links rev?

On Apr 28, 2010 6:59 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
wrote:

Lousy analogy Tom. You act as if you have not read any of what has been
written about this item.

The fact is the item was left by absent minded techie at bar.

Item was turned into bar tender who has no idea whose it is.(I wonder
how many folks had been there that night and had phones?)

Good faith attempts were made to return said item to Apple, but because of
Apples own compartmentalization no one knew what they were talking about.

I cant remember how the Gizmodo guy got it at that point but he did, he then
did a review and took it apart analyzed etc. etc.

When he had it back together and working he sent it back.

It is only after the fact that they have raided the guys house and not
charged him with anything.  I wonder what the search warrant said?

You have to lay part of the blame here at Apple for being careless with
their tech stuff, and being a little paranoid.  This is not the first time
someone has lost a prototype and someone else got it to look at and review.

This would make it one of the first times that the reviewer has been
criminalized for someone elses careless behavior.

Is the Gizmodo guy totally innocent here, I don't think so, but he saw a
chance to be one of the first to see review and look at a prototype of
Iphone.

But I also see Apple going over the top here and making themselves look
really really stupid and heavy handed.

Especially since they had the phone back already.

And I would venture to say if this had been a Windows Mobile 7 phone that
had had this happen to it, you would be jumping up and down saying way to go
Gimodo

You tend to be so predictable Tom.

Stewart

At 08:36 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:   On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:49 PM, mike
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Re: [CGUYS] Palm Does About as Well as It Could

So far I am very happy with my Palm Pre.

Nicely done, nice hardware and easy to use.

Could use a few more apps, it would be nice to have a decent IM program.

I have not paid for one app yet, an have a decent group of them that
are useful.

The free hotspot app and usage (Verizon dropped the fee for using
it.) makes this very handy.

I even have an app that will help me keep track of gasoline usage and
lets me know very quickly mileage etc.

Granted it does not have as many apps as the Iphone (no kidding) but
again I have mostly what I need.

Stewart

At 10:25 PM 4/28/2010, you wrote:

An HP engineered phone can't be worse than a palm pixi. Web os is a strong,
nicely done os...it just has no support for apps and the hardware I think is
poor.

On Apr 28, 2010 7:34 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

Wow! This is an interesting change of fortune and hopefully a new lease on
life for Palm. The only question is whether HP has recovered enough from the
dark days of Carlie's rule to pull off a project that takes serious
engineering. I don't know. I have not been watching HP that closely of late.
My old Palm Tungsten still keeps on trucking. I never took a Pre out for a
spin.

Any opinions?

Hewlett-Packard Will Acquire Palm for $1.2 Billion (Update3) - BusinessWeek
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Re: [CGUYS] fios renewal was:Digital TV [Was: Broadband Speeds Map]

2010-04-27 Thread Stewart Marshall


At least you can buy neat looking cars that perform also.

Makes it more fun to drive.

Stewart


At 10:14 PM 4/27/2010, you wrote:

And if yer lucky and live in France, maybe you can get your car burned up!

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:02 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:


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 you can't have that in the US. Too bad. Your elected representatives think
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Re: [CGUYS] McAfee antivirus program goes berserk, freezes PCs

2010-04-21 Thread Stewart Marshall


Any way to do a restore to a previously know good point?

Boot up and press F8 and see what options show up.

Also you can boot into safe mode and try and load up a previously 
known good point.


Stewart


At 05:45 PM 4/21/2010, you wrote:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hADm2LTOJUNBSPziYG0KGH7jTUVwD9F7M9HG1

I spent several hours troubleshooting this one before the news got out.

Looks like it blew away a good chunk of the Registry. The computer had
no Task Bar or Start button. Desktop icons could not be moved. The
network connection and WiFi were gone. Many Control Panels displayed
just an empty window. The McAfee application would not launch. System
Restore says System Restore is unable to protect your computer and
then exits.

Worse of all, it blew away the Administrator account. I had the client
running in a limited-rights account, which she was able to log into,
but almost everything I might want to use to fix things can't be run
from the limited-rights account. When I try to log into the
Administrator account the screen turns blue briefly and then returns
to the login screen.

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Re: [CGUYS] McAfee antivirus program goes berserk, freezes PCs

2010-04-21 Thread Stewart Marshall


I would do a repair reinstall.

Stewart


At 07:48 PM 4/21/2010, you wrote:

good luck

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:37 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:

 On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:05 PM, mike wrote:

 There is this fix posted by mcafee.
 http://vil.nai.com/vil/5958_false.htm


 So McAfee blew away svchost.exe, which is the launcher for many services.
 That could account for the large number of things that stopped working.
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Re: [CGUYS] McAfee antivirus program goes berserk, freezes PCs

2010-04-21 Thread Stewart Marshall


I knew there was a reason I did not use them.

Stewart


At 07:38 PM 4/21/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:00 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:

Any way to do a restore to a previously know good point?


That service is broken too. McAfee picked a very critical file to
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Re: [CGUYS] Is Apple Readying for a Rematch With Microsoft in Personal Computing? - NYTimes.com

2010-04-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

MS is releasing some  Win phones on Verizon the Kin's which are using 
a cut down version of their new OS.


Lower prices also.

Stewart


At 06:29 PM 4/18/2010, you wrote:

Apple had a decade on MS at one point according to Steve Jobs and dropped
the ball.  We'll see if that changes with this new battlefield.  Apple
seemingly has the same type of disadvantage with their product only being
sold on one network while MS can get it's new phone on any network, and
don't forget Android could be the spoiler of both.


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Re: [CGUYS] amazon wireless blowout

2010-04-10 Thread Stewart Marshall


Will have to keep an eye on that.

I recently did upgrade my phone to a Palm Pre for $0.  It also came 
with the wireless hotspot for free.  (No monthly fee)


I will keep this in mind when it comes time for my son who wants a 
droid and only a droid.


Stewart


At 12:48 PM 4/10/2010, you wrote:

Amazon wireless is apparently doing a blow out the phones, many from verizon
and att are priced at a penny.  Verizon droid is 20 bux, the eris (hero) is
a penny.  If you are on the lookout for a phone and plan this might be a
deal for you.  The link directs you to att but I went and looked at verizon
and almost every phone there was a penny.

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/04/09/amazon-selling-every-atandt-phone-for-a-penny-on-contract/


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Re: [CGUYS] amazon wireless blowout

2010-04-10 Thread Stewart Marshall

So do I, but you cant argue with a 20 year old who knows more than 
you do.  (well thinks they do!)


Stewart

At 01:28 PM 4/10/2010, you wrote:

I like the look of the devour a tad more

On Apr 10, 2010 11:12 AM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
wrote:

Will have to keep an eye on that.

I recently did upgrade my phone to a Palm Pre for $0.  It also came with the
wireless hotspot for free.  (No monthly fee)

I will keep this in mind when it comes time for my son who wants a droid and
only a droid.

Stewart

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Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case

2010-04-09 Thread Stewart Marshall


And Congress does not do this either?

Stewart


At 10:57 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote:
Yes, we are communicating, but we are not Telecommunicating. When 
the laws governing regulation of it were established, 
Telecommunication was the telephone. My point is that voice is but a 
small element of the world of broadband and Congress should be the 
body to set its regulation, if it is to be regulated, not an FCC 
with political appointees who swing depending on the party in power.


John Duncan Yoyo wrote:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Steve at Verizon 
stevet...@verizon.netwrote:




I thought the court's ruling stated that Congress authorized the FCC to
regulate only Telecommunications. If Congress wishes for the FCC to regulate
Broadband, then it should do so. Hence Comcast, not a Telecommunications
company, but a Broadband company does not fall under the juristicion  of the
FCC. Am I wrong?

Are we not communicating here?







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Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case

2010-04-09 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

That part is true, but commissions many times have to interpret 
poorly or very vaguely written law (because politicians like to have 
it both ways.  And I mean that in the worst sense.)


It is not a perfect world, in any sense of the way.

The FCC is trying to make decisions in the public interest using 
vague and dual meaning laws meant to not accomplish much but get the 
pols elected again and again.


Sometimes I would prefer to let a commissioner make a decision in my 
best interest because no one else would.  Commissioners tend to be 
less invested in the decisions they make and less influenced by 
industry than the pols.


Stewart


At 05:33 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote:
Of course Congress makes its decisions for political reasons! That's 
their job. Politicians are the ones who should be making law, not 
commissions. Politicians can be held accountable for their actions 
at election time.


Stewart Marshall wrote:

And Congress does not do this either?

Stewart


At 10:57 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote:
Yes, we are communicating, but we are not Telecommunicating. When 
the laws governing regulation of it were established, 
Telecommunication was the telephone. My point is that voice is but 
a small element of the world of broadband and Congress should be 
the body to set its regulation, if it is to be regulated, not an 
FCC with political appointees who swing depending on the party in power.


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stevet...@verizon.netwrote:




I thought the court's ruling stated that Congress authorized the FCC to
regulate only Telecommunications. If Congress wishes for the FCC 
to regulate

Broadband, then it should do so. Hence Comcast, not a Telecommunications
company, but a Broadband company does not fall under the 
juristicion  of the

FCC. Am I wrong?

Are we not communicating here?






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Re: [CGUYS] FYI: News Alert: Court Rules Against F.C.C. in 'Net Neutrality' Case

2010-04-09 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Not all political appointments are hacks, and not all are party hacks 
either side.


This is why I would sometimes put my trust in them versus a guy I 
elect and lies to me.


By the way how can you tell if a politician is lying to you?  His 
mouth is open. (shameless old joke I know)


Stewart


At 08:48 PM 4/9/2010, you wrote:

It is not a perfect world, in any sense of the way.


There's an opinion piece in today's Post br Robert McDowell,
who is an FCC commissioner.  It is noteworthy that he was
reappointed in June of last year, and was the first Republican
to be so appointed to an independent agency by BHO.

Unanimously confirmed by the Senate.

Here's what he thinks:

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Re: [CGUYS] vga port to port

2010-04-08 Thread Stewart Marshall


The problem will be does you flat panel have a miniphone jack for sound?

I doubt it.

You will need to also get a miniphone jack to two RCA plug connector 
to enable you to plug in the sound.


Stewart


At 10:55 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote:

Are the cords I show here good?  I assume I need a sound cord and the second
one has it integrated ...should that be the one?  I assume SVGA cord will
carry VGA, no? ...thanks!!

-Original Message-
From: Chris Dunford [mailto:seed...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: vga port to port

 If I have a vga out port on my laptop can't I just get a simple vga
monitor
 cable (http://tinyurl.com/yjnyy37) or even one that has an integrated
sound
 cable on it (http://tinyurl.com/yfrxj5k) and show whatever from the
computer
 on my TV since it has a VGA port without buying some folderol that seems
to
 do nothing??  My thinkpad has the facility to show an external monitor
only
 or together with the LCD .any advice?

Yes, I've connected my ThinkPad directly to a TV with a VGA input. Works
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Re: [CGUYS] ipad/iphone/ipod touch and the lack of multitasking explained

2010-04-07 Thread Stewart Marshall


It is like some of the movies that are done.

it is a first gen product of a 3rd gen product of another product.

So who knows.

Stewart


At 10:58 AM 4/7/2010, you wrote:

Is the iPad a first gen device?  It's hard to say it's any different than a
very large ipod touch isn't it?

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:46 AM, David K Watson 
davidkirkwat...@gmail.comwrote:




 I tried out an iPad in Best Buy yesterday, and I have to say
 that I was impressed.  It is more evolved and polished than
 many third- or fourth- generation products, even some of
 Apple's.  The iPad is amazingly fast and responsive. Apps
 explode into existence when you launch them.  In Safari,
 web pages load as quickly as they do on my laptop at home,
 where I have a fast connection.  The video feature of the New
 York Times main page works without flash (yay!).  Touch and
 gestures are fast and accurate.  I thought I had a good idea
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Re: [CGUYS] My download speed

2010-04-05 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


Multiplier is 1.52

Stewart


At 04:00 PM 4/5/2010, you wrote:

Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net escribiÃ³:

On the downlink. On the uplink the speed is 
typically 1/10 of that as  the providers have 
found yet another excuse for charging 
their  customers extra if they want symmetric service.

Not really.  Most of the traffic is server to client, not vice-versa.  It's
a well accepted transport architecture.  France Telecom/Orange is
widely regarded as being one of the highest market penetration
providers in Europe, yet they are mostly ADSL.  Asymmetric, in
other words,  not SDSL.
http://www.orange.com/en_EN/group/


Thanks for the link Eric. Proves my points 
completely. Only difference is that the monthly 
charge for broadband is less than half as much 
as it was when I looked a year ago. Orange UK 
charges Â£9.00 per month for 20Mbps service 
[plus around and extra Â£9-10 line rental].


Consider that the UK pound is the equivalent 
currency to Brits as the US dollar is to us. In 
many cases the US dollar can buy more in the US 
than the UK pound can buy in the UK. Electronic 
communication services however--cellular and 
broadband--are at least 5X more costly here than in the UK.


Why? They have regulation and competition. We 
don't. We have barely regulated monopolies.


I'd be thrilled to pay Â£9.00 for month for 
20Mbps broadband, even if I'd have to pay it in 
US dollars. Today's rate: 9.00 GBP = 13.7698 
USD. I'll pay twice that at $27.54!


YES! We need Orange US!


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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


Not even close.

Only things you have to fight off are Teapartiers and termites.

Stewart


At 09:17 AM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 3, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote:

There are a number of smaller towns in this area, 10K population or
so that have varying degrees of service.  Most of them have VOIP
available.


But isn't your area somewhere in the middle of the Okefenokee Swamp? I
don't think Eric and his crews want to be fighting off crocodiles just
so you can stream Alice in Wonderland.


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Re: [CGUYS] Masters Tournament

2010-04-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


Ho hum.

Stewart


At 02:38 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

  I saw an ad yesterday on TV promoting the upcoming Masters Golf
event featuring 'you know who.'  While making sure that viewers got
the message about what TV channel to watch to be able to see the
return of the Savior of Golfdom, the ad also suggested that all of you
who are at work on opening day and are supposed to be actually working
should instead watch streaming video of the Resurrection on the
computer in your office.  And, don't forget to make sure you watch it
on your 3G device if you happen to be driving around that day.

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Re: [CGUYS] Masters Tournament

2010-04-04 Thread Stewart Marshall


One of the reasons I like latex.

By the tie I get done with one wall, it is time to do it again.

Thrill thrill.

(I attempt the game of golf, but I do as well at that as I do bowling.)

Stewart


At 05:10 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:
Oh, I thought that I was the only person in the world who felt that 
the idea of watching any golf tournament was the visual equivalent 
of waiting for paint to dry.


Mike

Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

Ho hum.
Stewart

At 02:38 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

  I saw an ad yesterday on TV promoting the upcoming Masters Golf
event featuring 'you know who.'  While making sure that viewers got
the message about what TV channel to watch to be able to see the
return of the Savior of Golfdom, the ad also suggested that all of you
who are at work on opening day and are supposed to be actually working
should instead watch streaming video of the Resurrection on the
computer in your office.  And, don't forget to make sure you watch it
on your 3G device if you happen to be driving around that day.

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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-04 Thread Stewart Marshall


At least you know how to defend against crocs and skeeters.

Stewart


At 06:08 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 4, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:

Only things you have to fight off are Teapartiers and termites.


What's the difference?


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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-04 Thread Stewart Marshall


It mainly is based on expected usage.

They expect you to use it more so you pay more for it.

My church office uses a 1.5 mps connection.  We are not a heavy user 
and do not rely on a super high speed connection for our work.


Now if I were a business that required a high speed connection tog et 
a loot of work done I would see them charging for a higher speed.


Recently the cable company said they could offer a 16mps connection. 
Now I would pay a high price for that, but instead they increased my 
5 mps to an 8 mps for the same price.


my biggest frustration is the servers used by many sites from which I 
can do downloads.  They throttle those suckers so that no matter how 
fast a connection you have it still takes a long time to download stuff.


Stewart

At 06:07 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

Quoting t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com:


The corporations invented the idea that bandwidth was a scarce resource
to be sold to the public drop by drop. They started to throttle
services like BitTorrent and block services like Skype. Suddenly the
the wide open cables lost their ability to move our data unimpeded
unless they got greased by the payment of extra tolls.


Yeah. If Eric's FiOS is capable of delivering 100Mbs (or whatever
their claim is), why do you have to pay extra for higher rates? What's
the diff? It's not like they have to come out to my house and install
a booster to the line, or come around and install a fatter wire. if
they let the unwashed masses *all* have max bandwidth, and their
wire isn't able to support it, then they don't *really* have 110Mbs
bandwidth, and shouldn't be advertising as such. The wire is either
capable of the bandwidth, or it isn't.

Seems to me like it's more trouble and expense trying to meter out the
service.


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Re: [CGUYS] ipad/iphone/ipod touch and the lack of multitasking explained

2010-04-04 Thread Stewart Marshall


Most of the reviews I have read so far are referring to it as another device.

Not to replace anything but to have.

Not revolutionary maybe evolutionary.

By the way saw the neatest bumper sticker yesterday.

If evolution gets outlawed only outlaws will evolve.

Stewart



At 06:46 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:

  It is being mentioned by a number of folks who have been reviewing
the iPad that it begins to appear as though that new device is going
to particularly catch on with the younger set, pre-teens and upwards.
A new drain on family budgets if that pans out.  Gotta have that
social networking thing, you know, not to mention the games.  Dunno if
Apple planned it that way, but if such a scenario transpires, what a
way to inculcate flocks of youngsters into the Apple World... iPhones,
iPods, iPads, and who knows what will be next.  Maybe, slim chance,
but just maybe youngsters will actually use the devices intelligently.

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Re: [CGUYS] My download speed

2010-04-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


Si Senor.

Stewart



At 06:40 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:


Betty and Stewart will be waiting for Pedro, Jorge, and their amigos
to come along and dig up their neighborhoods.


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Re: [CGUYS] My download speed

2010-04-04 Thread Stewart Marshall


The new cable company coming into town are doing all their own stringing.

No outside labor or contractors.

Charter uses a lot of contractors for any work except cable stringing 
and maintenance.


When a call for help with my Hi Speed arises it is all contractors.

Stewart


At 08:27 PM 4/4/2010, you wrote:
Cheap shot.  Well below your usual standard, Reid.


Many don't actually buy it,  in fact, even if it's available.

If you're saying I'm using cheap contractors for the buildout, prove it.

My union members would love to hear about it.

You can contact the union at:

http://www.cwa2336.org/

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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Stewart Marshall


Less competition more regulation!

Stewart


At 09:48 AM 4/3/2010, you wrote:

For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have
such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US?

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html

The real reason is lack of competition and 8 years of neocon rule
resulting in no national broadband policy.


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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Stewart Marshall


South Korea is pretty high tech.

I think many of the LCD panels are made there.

Stewart


At 10:26 AM 4/3/2010, you wrote:

 For those who say that USA has rotten broadband speeds because we have
 such low population density, why is Canada ahead of US?

 http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2010/03/tech/map.broadband.speeds/index.html

Interesting factoid: Unless I missed someone, South Korea is the 
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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


Absolutely.

My in-laws live 300+ miles north of the border.

The services they can get and the cost are far, far different than 
what is offered in the lower half of the province.


The farther you get from the border the more remote and rugged it 
gets.  Leave any of the population dense sites and it is like 
stepping into another world.


Stewart


At 12:32 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:24 PM, Steve at Verizon wrote:

Technically Canada has a low population density when you divide its
population by the size of the country. However, it is highly
concentrated. Over three quarters of its population lives within 90
miles of the US border. Also see this map of the distribution.


Since the map shows average speed, that would mean that those in your
90 mile band must have one heck of a high rate to make up for all
those who live in the rest of Canada. Does this seem plausible?


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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall


First you must live in a Rogers Cable served area.

Stewart


At 12:51 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote:
Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable 
Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. 
And there is an account type that is one higher than that which tops 
out at 50.  Mind you it doesn't;t come cheap but there it is.


And that it standard cable, not FIOS.

Michael


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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Stewart Marshall


In municipalities we are well served by high speed Net access.

It is when you get on the fringes of these municipalities and into 
the suburban areas that there is a stark difference.


There are a number of smaller towns in this area, 10K population or 
so that have varying degrees of service.  Most of them have VOIP available.


Our municipality does not have any special services, except the cable 
company is offering speeds of 15mps.  (I have achieved this 
occasionally on my own connection)


Much of the problem has to do with the cable systems.  Also the age 
of our copper system (phone lines) is starting to cause problems.


I have checked out DSL high speed and the best they can offer is 4mps 
due to limitations of the infrastructure.


Again it is hit and miss.  (A lot like ATT's 3g coverage)

Stewart



At 04:40 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote:

On Apr 3, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote:

The speeds on the map are somewhat misleading.  The FCC says that
anything over 768 kBPS qualifies as broadband.  Nothing in that says
anything about symmetric or asymmetic (and they are setting the bar
too low).


So things in the USA are really much worse than the map would
indicate. You are not making us feel better.


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Re: [CGUYS] Broadband Speeds Map

2010-04-03 Thread Stewart Marshall


Right now it cold be Canadian or US.  They are almost on par.

Stewart


At 10:44 PM 4/3/2010, you wrote:
Can't speak for others, but I am on an account with Rogers Cable 
Systems in Ontario that gets me consistently up to 25 Mbps speed. 
And there is an account type that is one higher than that which 
tops out at 50.  Mind you it doesn't;t come cheap but there it is.


How much does Rogers Cable charge or 25 and 50 Mbps service? In 
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Re: [CGUYS] play video from laptop to TV

2010-04-02 Thread Stewart Marshall


There are two ways I do it.

I have an extended VGA cable that I plug into my laptop, and the plug 
into the TV.  Depends on what you have but at least one male end and 
possibly one female end require.  That will do the video. If you want 
sound, a stereo miniplug to dual RCA Phono plugs which you will then 
need to plug into the TV.


Alternative which will give you three RCA plugs to plug into a 
DVD/VCD (red/white/yellow Combo) is to get a S-video to RCA adapter 
(I have one for my Dell, the computer S-Video and TV S-Video are not 
the same)  and the use a three wire RCA Plug to RCA Plug which will 
give you video and sound together.


I have used both of the above ways to plug my laptop into a TV both 
conventional SDTV (Tube) and HDTV (Flat Panel LCD)


Really works great.  Especially for Netflix streamed movies.

Stewart


At 09:45 PM 4/2/2010, you wrote:

My TV is lenco dtv-2421



Description/detail: TFT/LCD DVD combination/screen diagonal: 61 cm/sceen
size: 24 tariff/display format: 16:9/dissolution: 1,920 x of 1,080 pixels/hp
ready/Full hp/integrated devices: DVD player/connections: HDMI, VGA (PC
entrance), SCART, S-video-entrance, component entrance (YUV)/rendition
formats: CD, DVD, VCD, S-VCD, HDCD, MP3, WMA, JPEG/weight: 6.14 kg/power
output: 2 x 3 Watt/screen menu OSD/data sheet indicate



My Laptop is IBM Thinkpad X31



Has USB2 and also has a monitor connector on the back (15 pins in 3 rows
of 5 slightly offset) which can be seen here:



http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/x31monitcon.gif



I place the x31 in an x3 ultrabase which has a pass-through to another
connector that resembles the one above but they call it a vga port.  see
it here:



http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l296/Dimitri_P/2007/4-22/pic145q.jpg



so, now, what cable will I need to get to hook my notebook with or without
docking station (It seems the port on my notebook just passes through to the
docking station which replicates the ports) .so I can plunk it down next
to my tv and watch a movie from the computer (I have some in various formats
.avi, wmv .many are VGA so they will show nicely).



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Re: [CGUYS] Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing}

I read this, but again it is a faint rumor.  NO one has verified it, 
and these have been going for a bout a year.


Stewart


At 06:07 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:

There are very strong hints that a new iPhone will be released before
the end of the year that will be Verizon compatible. Some reports are
saying this will be in addition to ATT as a provider veruss a
replacement. Some of this speculation comes from this WSJ article:

MARCH 30, 2010
New iPhone Could End ATT's U.S. Monopoly
By YUKARI IWATANI KANE, TING-I TSAI And NIRAJ SHETH

Apple Inc. plans to begin producing this year a new iPhone that could
allow U.S. phone carriers other than ATT Inc. to sell the iconic
gadget, said people briefed by the company.

The new iPhone would work on a type of wireless network called CDMA,
these people said. CDMA is used by Verizon Wireless, ATT's main
competitor, as well as Sprint Nextel Corp. and a handful of cellular
operators in countries including South Korea and Japan. The vast
majority of carriers world-wide, including ATT, use another
technology called GSM.

With Apple developing a phone with CDMA capability, its exclusive U.S.
arrangement with ATT dating to 2007 appears set to end.

Verizon Wireless, owned by Verizon Communications Inc. and Vodafone
Group PLC, declined to comment. An ATT spokesman said: There has
been lots of incorrect speculation on CDMA iPhones for a long time. We
haven't seen one yet and only Apple knows when that might occur.
Apple declined to comment.

Separately, Apple plans to release a new version of its current iPhone
this summer, continuing its practice of annual upgrades at about the
same time of year, said people briefed on the matter. The model is
likely to be thinner and have a faster processor, two people familiar
with the device said.

For ATT, the Apple relationship has been crucial, helping to make the
carrier the U.S. leader in lucrative smart-phone market share.
According to comScore Inc., ATT has over 43% of all U.S. smart-phone
customers, compared with 23% for Verizon. These customers are
especially attractive because they generally pay higher monthly rates
for data plans.

For several quarters, ATT's growth has come almost single-handedly
from the iPhone. In the fourth quarter of 2009, the carrier said it
activated 3.1 million new iPhones. In comparison, it counted only a
net total of 2.7 million new subscribers as some customers moved from
other phones to iPhones.

You're not going to lose the iPhone [exclusivity] and make up growth
somewhere else without bearing the cost, said Sanford C. Bernstein 
Co. research analyst Craig Moffett.

The people briefed on the matter said the upgraded GSM iPhone is being
made by Taiwanese contract manufacturer Hon Hai Precision Industry
Co., which produced Apple's previous iPhones. The CDMA iPhone model is
being made by Pegatron Technology Corp., the contract manufacturing
subsidiary of Taiwan's ASUSTeK Computer Inc., said these people.

One person familiar with the situation said Pegatron is scheduled to
start mass producing CDMA iPhones in September. Other people said,
however, that the schedule could change and the phone may not be
available to consumers immediately after production begins.

Representatives of Pegatron and Hon Hai declined to comment.

Verizon has publicly stated its interest in the iPhone, but people
familiar with the situation said Apple originally decided against
developing a phone for Verizon to keep its development process simple,
since the technologies are incompatible.

Verizon also is upgrading its network to a higher-speed technology, so
Apple has said it believed CDMA was a short-term technology. Apple
later changed its mind as it realized Verizon's upgrade would take
longer than expected, said people familiar with the situation.

Making the iPhone available through Verizon, which has over 91 million
customers, as well as potentially other CDMA carriers could open up a
significant new market. In 2009, iPhone sales globally rose 83% to
25.1 million, far outpacing the 20% to 25% growth in smart phones
sales overall, according to Bernstein. But since Apple already
dominates smart-phone sales through existing partners, sooner rather
than later, Apple is going to have to look to find incremental
distribution, said Bernstein analyst Toni Sacconaghi. He estimates
Verizon could help Apple nearly double the number of iPhone users in
the U.S.

ATT's relationship with Apple, a lucrative deal arranged by Apple
Chief Executive Steve Jobs, shows how such a partnership with other
carriers could present challenges.

Analysts estimate ATT pays Apple more than $600 per phone, but sells
most of them for $199 or less. Heavy iPhone users have also put an
enormous load on ATT's wireless network, pushing the carrier to a
breaking point in some markets such as New York and San Francisco.

Qualcomm Inc., which holds patent rights to CDMA, is the dominant
designer of CDMA chips.

Write to Yukari Iwatani Kane at

Re: [CGUYS] Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing}

Yeah but for those trying to make a decision on what their next phone 
will be it is disheartening.


Do I don't I when?

There is a word for folks like that it is called a tease.  And sooner 
or later teasers get theirs back.


Stewart


At 10:23 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:


We all know that someday this will happen. It is about as informed as
predicting a sunrise.


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Re: [CGUYS] It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing

I like email as it gives me a paper trail, and for those of us over 
50, it is a memory!!


I can look back at an email and see what was asked.  I can then check 
my out box and see if I wrote them back.


Helps a lot.

Stewart


At 10:26 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:


I have been sending emails to people who sit right next to me for over
20 years. It is effective and considerate. I'm not barging in with a
demand that my question come first. It lets them queue me up and reply
as appropriate.


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Re: [CGUYS] Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow all computing}


It can be.

Has been going on for decades.

I remember when I used the Commodore 64.

Went to a tech show at the Ex.  (Exhibition center in Toronto) They 
showed some programs for the 64 that built on Word Pro and did many 
neat and wonderful things in that day.  Fonts, double column printing etc.


I cant remember the name of the company but they were out of Salinas 
Kansas, and their Word processor was exactly what I 
wanted.  Releasing next March, yeah right.


Took almost a year to get the program if I remember and I called them 
a few times about it.


The industry has had a habit of teasing about stuff, and being very 
vague about when it will come out.


One thing has stuck with me for a long time.

How long is a nanosecond?  The length of time it takes you to get 
your new system home and when it becomes outdated!


Stewart




At 10:46 AM 4/1/2010, you wrote:

So, Rev. are you accusing the entire tech industry of being a tease?

Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
Yeah but for those trying to make a decision on what their next phone
will be it is disheartening.

Do I don't I when?

There is a word for folks like that it is called a tease.  And sooner
or later teasers get theirs back.


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Re: [CGUYS] Wozniak solves two iPhone problems

2010-04-01 Thread Stewart Marshall

No he is the atypical multitasker they were talking about on the TV 
and radio the other day.


Not sure I would want to be close to him on the highway.

Stewart


At 12:25 PM 4/1/2010, you wrote:

Very good, except that looking something up while talking on the
phone is one of the kinds of multitasking that iPhones do.
Apparently Woz hasn't seen the commercials.  Of course he
says

I have two iPhones, a [Google] Nexus One, a [Motorola] Droid,
plus a Garmin [GPS] and TomTom [GPS]. I turn them all on at the
same time, plus the navigation system in my Prius.

So he's not just a belt-and-suspenders kind of guy, he's more like
a two-pairs-of-pants-with-belts-and-suspenders kind of guy.


 From:Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com
 Subject: Wozniak solves two iPhone problems

 Woz has found a single solution to iPhone's lack of multitasking 
AND its short battery life:


 Yeah. I just have two iPhones, so if the battery runs down on 
the first one, I can use the other. And if I'm talking on one, I 
can use the other one to look something up. You would not believe how

 much use I get out of that.

 It's so EASY.  Why didn't everyone think of this?

 http://www.newsweek.com/id/235567



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OK so I was thinking of a time just longer than a Nanosecond.  :-)

Stewart


At 01:35 PM 4/1/2010, rleesimon wrote:

Hey, rev...on what earth are you...it doesn't take the time to get it home
to be outdated since it is sold with an outdated sticker on the box
already...


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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Remember I deal in Eternity by trade. :-)

Stewart


At 02:46 PM 4/1/2010, rleesimon wrote:

gear extinction is currently measured in picoseconds, rev ...get with the
program ...everything is REVved up!!  ;^)

-Original Message-
From: Rev. Stewart Marshall [mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 3:35 PM
To: rleesimon
Cc: 'Computer Guys Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Cellphone choices [WAS It's an app world, and it could swallow
all computing}

OK so I was thinking of a time just longer than a Nanosecond.  :-)

Stewart


At 01:35 PM 4/1/2010, rleesimon wrote:
Hey, rev...on what earth are you...it doesn't take the time to get it home
to be outdated since it is sold with an outdated sticker on the box
already...

Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


Rev. Stewart A. Marshall
mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net
Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org
Ozark, AL  SL 82


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