Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
On Aug 1, 2009, at 12:15 AM, betty wrote: My Dad got his first computer when he was in his 70s, a Quadra 605, moved on to a PM 6100, now has an indigo CRT iMac that's fading a bit--used them for a home business. He told me he wants a MacBook or MB Pro with WiFi. Likes his Macs a lot; says they're easy, not scary, and don't crash. He's 91 and buying a new car tomorrow. An old age * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
On Aug 1, 2009, at 12:15 AM, betty wrote: My Dad got his first computer when he was in his 70s, a Quadra 605, moved on to a PM 6100, now has an indigo CRT iMac that's fading a bit--used them for a home business. He told me he wants a MacBook or MB Pro with WiFi. Likes his Macs a lot; says they're easy, not scary, and don't crash. He's 91 and buying a new car tomorrow. An old age like this is what we all wish for. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
WoW! Impressive... db betty wrote: I'm finding it very difficult to teach these seniors not to be afraid of the machines, and yet balance that with the security issues that they will find on their home computers. You are experience first hand the difference between getting Windows vs Macintosh. The Macs are far more resistant to this kind of pollution. They would be easier to lock down too, but that is generally unnecessary. My Dad got his first computer when he was in his 70s, a Quadra 605, moved on to a PM 6100, now has an indigo CRT iMac that's fading a bit--used them for a home business. He told me he wants a MacBook or MB Pro with WiFi. Likes his Macs a lot; says they're easy, not scary, and don't crash. He's 91 and buying a new car tomorrow. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
I'm finding it very difficult to teach these seniors not to be afraid of the machines, and yet balance that with the security issues that they will find on their home computers. You are experience first hand the difference between getting Windows vs Macintosh. The Macs are far more resistant to this kind of pollution. They would be easier to lock down too, but that is generally unnecessary. My Dad got his first computer when he was in his 70s, a Quadra 605, moved on to a PM 6100, now has an indigo CRT iMac that's fading a bit--used them for a home business. He told me he wants a MacBook or MB Pro with WiFi. Likes his Macs a lot; says they're easy, not scary, and don't crash. He's 91 and buying a new car tomorrow. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Google Warning...
Now I am mad. At Google. Yesterday, I downloaded Google Screensaver from Google.. But first, Google wanted to install the 'Google updater' to facilitate the download. This is not unusual, as a downloading program can help reduce overhead on their servers, so I agreed. Then the fun starts! The updater checked my system, and then proceeded to install a slew of applications (without my permission) which included Google Earth, Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer, Google Docs, Google Apps (Whatever that is), and since I have a fast computer, it did it all in less than half a minute. It would have installed Chrome, but I already had it. This is my work computer... I don't want all this crap in my machine! Last night, when my wife was trying to print her operative notes from that days surgery, we noticed the printer queue was damaged, so I rebooted. This morning, again, the printer queue is dead... documents appear in the queue, the disappear into the bit bucket, but no hard copy, no errors. This time a reboot did not fix it. What has Google done to my machine! Now I must spend several hours of my work day trying to fix it! Any suggestions would be appreciated. This note is a warning to everyone... deny the Google updater when it asks permission! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
System Restore rolled my system back 2 days and fixed the problem... I also noticed there were 2 Microsoft updates during that period... so Microsoft might have something to do with the printer queue breakdown. I shall get some lunch, and try to get some REAL work accomplished today! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
You should only be angry at yourself, as nothing was installed without your permission. But I know it can sometimes be difficult to find all the settings. Google Apps is a way to deploy Google services among many employees. If you saw this installing, you made your mistake before this point. System Restore won't delete any apps you may have downloaded from Google. Google Docs isn't an app anyway - it's all online. You really don't need a screensaver these days anyway. Just set the monitor to power off after a while. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Brian Joneswjone...@carolina.rr.com wrote: System Restore rolled my system back 2 days and fixed the problem... I also noticed there were 2 Microsoft updates during that period... so Microsoft might have something to do with the printer queue breakdown. I shall get some lunch, and try to get some REAL work accomplished today! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
Google Apps was installed by Google Updater along with all the other Google stuff... Google Updater was installed as a condition for installing Picasa 3. The updater should have asked, but did not. Immediately upon giving permission to install the updater, it began installing everything else... no settings, no questions. As a follow up, I went back to the Google page today where I clicked on Picasa 3. When I clicked on it, it appeared to have the correct install program associated with it, not the updater that I got yesterday. Could it have been a bad link that took me to the wrong software? - Original Message - From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com You should only be angry at yourself, as nothing was installed without your permission. But I know it can sometimes be difficult to find all the settings. Google Apps is a way to deploy Google services among many employees. If you saw this installing, you made your mistake before this point. * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
At 01:33 PM 7/30/2009 -0400, you wrote: You should only be angry at yourself, as nothing was installed without your permission. This is exactly why I have locked down all the computers at the Senior Center. Users have nearly no permissions. I have all browsers opening to Google's home page, to make it easy for all the newbies to use the web. However, I don't need to spend days uninstalling things that they may innocently click on and download/install. I'm finding it very difficult to teach these seniors not to be afraid of the machines, and yet balance that with the security issues that they will find on their home computers. Since I've started this program, the repair shop across the street has gotten several new customers. :) I've convinced that shop that when these people bring their machines in to get them cleaned, they will install Firefox and then I teach them to use that instead of IE. It solves some of the problems. Sue * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
It probably just knew you already have updater installed, so it didn't
ask you again.
I just checked my main machine, and I have several Google products
like updater, Earth, Desktop Sidebar, Picasa 3, etc. installed, but no
Google Apps. So somewhere during the process I know it must have asked
me and I said 'no'. Or I'm just completely misunderstanding what Apps
is.
But, as Sue just pointed out, this isn't totally your fault. If you
think this was fun, wait until you install the next Flash update. Just
TRY to do it without installing iTunes! Or your next Java update,
which will do it's best to install [brainfart] something else. The
grand daddy of them all is {free} RealMedia, which to this day cannot
be safely installed by *computer experts*!
PS You MUST install all updates having to do with web browsing
*immediately*. This includes Flash and Java. Reason being - these days
that's the primary attack vector for malware (viruses).
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Brian Joneswjone...@carolina.rr.com wrote:
Google Apps was installed by Google Updater along with all the other Google
stuff... Google Updater was installed as a condition for installing Picasa
3. The updater should have asked, but did not. Immediately upon giving
permission to install the updater, it began installing everything else... no
settings, no questions.
As a follow up, I went back to the Google page today where I clicked on
Picasa 3. When I clicked on it, it appeared to have the correct install
program associated with it, not the updater that I got yesterday. Could it
have been a bad link that took me to the wrong software?
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Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Sue Cubic wrote: I'm finding it very difficult to teach these seniors not to be afraid of the machines, and yet balance that with the security issues that they will find on their home computers. Since I've started this program, the repair shop across the street has gotten several new customers. :) I've convinced that shop that when these people bring their machines in to get them cleaned, they will install Firefox and then I teach them to use that instead of IE. It solves some of the problems. You are experience first hand the difference between getting Windows vs Macintosh. The Macs are far more resistant to this kind of pollution. They would be easier to lock down too, but that is generally unnecessary. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google Warning...
On Jul 30, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Brian Jones wrote: I also noticed there were 2 Microsoft updates during that period... so Microsoft might have something to do with the printer queue breakdown. I recently had a service call where printing was disabled after a Patch Tuesday episode. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
