On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:59 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
I also have noted in those MS ads that the buyers are making their
decisions solely predicated upon two factors: The cheaper cost and the
advice of Best Buy salespersons. Would anyone on this list rely upon
those two criteria when making
Where do you meet these people?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:05 AM, t.piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:59 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
I also have noted in those MS ads that the buyers are making their
decisions solely predicated upon two factors: The cheaper cost and the
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:11 AM, mikexha...@gmail.com wrote:
Where do you meet these people?
I don't know where Tom meets these people, but I meet them all the
time. However, my experiences with folks who are completely wedded to
Windows seems to be different from what Tom is saying. The
This is called battered spouse syndrome. It needs intervention and
possibly arrest of the guilty party.
On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:07 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
However, as much as they might complain about their balky machines,
they think that they have no choice but to keep using Windows
I think they refer to you as target audience.
On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:11 AM, mike wrote:
Where do you meet these people?
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Yes, savvy buyers will get Macs, but there is also a very large group
of people who know little about computers. These are graphic artists.
They typically point to their computer and call them the hard
drive. (I have never been able to understand the consistency with
which they use the
I too meet them, Steve. My company is large and has a large IT group.
They install all of the patches and probably over 95+% of all software
installs. Each OS installation is configured from a company-standard
image. None of the managers and few of the technical staff are able to
do anything
Steve,
I just wanted to say that I think your comments have been spot on!
Steve B
phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
I'll probably get clobbered now, but hey, that's what I think. Yes,
I know that many Windows users HAVE TO use Windows based machines
because of work requirements, but
I would not use a term like savvy to describe our WFBs. Their
loyalties are more like to a political party. They never see anything
wrong with anything M$ shoves out. All their software -- even Vista
-- is double plus good. They love the Zune and those crummy WINCE
phones. I was recently
I'll probably get clobbered now, but hey, that's what I think. Yes,
I know that many Windows users HAVE TO use Windows based machines
because of work requirements, but those are not the individuals I am
talking about here.
The smug arrogance and asshattery displayed regularly by a
http://blogs.computerworld.com/microsoft_ad_campaign_cleans_apples_clock
The odd thing is that the Ad Age article that ComputerWorld references
appears to have disappeared. All the links to it, including the ones on Ad
Age's own site, come up with item not found. Maybe it's just a web site
error.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Chris Dunford wrote:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/
microsoft_ad_campaign_cleans_apples_clock
The odd thing is that the Ad Age article that ComputerWorld references
appears to have disappeared. All the links to it, including the
ones on Ad
Age's own site, come
The links are dead because this is no longer current content.
You just love to make stuff up, don't you? It turns out that the Ad Age
piece is still there (and very current), but you have to pay to read it. All
you can see without payment is part of the first paragraph:
NEW YORK (AdAge.com) --
On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Chris Dunford wrote:
You just love to make stuff up, don't you? It turns out that the Ad
Age
piece is still there (and very current), but you have to pay to
read it. All
you can see without payment is part of the first paragraph:
So, your statement about it
On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:28 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote:
To the best of my knowledge, Apple computers have always been seen
as pricey. Nothing ground breaking about that. I have been hearing
complaints about the cost of Apple machines for years, and also know
it to be a fact. How do I know?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Chris Dunfordseed...@gmail.com wrote:
Sure, but the point of the article was the rather startling turnaround in
the perception of the MS and Apple brands in the 18-34 demo. Since late
winter, Apple's rating has dropped from 70 to 12, and MS's has increased
from
Now, MS is ahead 46-12.
So, what does all of that actually mean?
All it means is that the advertising campaigns appear to have been
effective, which is all that I said it meant. There was considerable talk
here that MS's ads were no good, but it seems that they were. No big deal.
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Chris Dunfordseed...@gmail.com wrote:
All it means is that the advertising campaigns appear to have been
effective, which is all that I said it meant. There was considerable talk
here that MS's ads were no good, but it seems that they were. No big deal.
The
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