[CGUYS] Apple One to One Training
I had my first session yesterday, am amazed that Apple can offer this level of training for only $99/year. Myself several co-workers are learning Final Cut ( trust me, you need thrusters on full when learning this program). We can book sessions at once a week, over the internet. I've always known Apple was good for its customer support, but this just blew me away. This may be specific to our store (the only one in Indianapolis-actually, the only Apple chain store in Indiana, although there are independent Apple stores), but maybe others have good experiences at their stores. Highly recommend it. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 dt...@indianahistory.org * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training
On Apr 29, 2009, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote: This may be specific to our store (the only one in Indianapolis- actually, the only Apple chain store in Indiana, although there are independent Apple stores), but maybe others have good experiences at their stores. Highly recommend it. Nope, it's good at all stores. When you are traveling you can book a session as an away game. The Apple stores are wall-to-wall enthusiasts who fall all over each other to show you stuff. Every one of my sessions was a pleasure. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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No question, Final Cut is one of the more difficult NLEs to learn. Very steep learning curve. Probably rivaled only by Avid. But let's not confuse your decision to go with a difficult app - one that virtually demands training - to then praise the trainers needed at whatever cost. You guys could just as easily chosen an NLE that has virtually no learning curve. There are many, and only FCP requires a proprietary OS. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:14 AM, David Turk dt...@indianahistory.org wrote: I had my first session yesterday, am amazed that Apple can offer this level of training for only $99/year. Myself several co-workers are learning Final Cut ( trust me, you need thrusters on full when learning this program). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training
Hey, these days, when I get super-cynical over crappy service offered by pretty much everyone, talking with a knowledgeable, friendly rep is definitely praiseworthy. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Services Indiana Historical Society Eugene and Marilyn Glick Indiana History Center 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202 (317) 232-4592 dt...@indianahistory.org -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] On Behalf Of Tony B Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:18 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training No question, Final Cut is one of the more difficult NLEs to learn. Very steep learning curve. Probably rivaled only by Avid. But let's not confuse your decision to go with a difficult app - one that virtually demands training - to then praise the trainers needed at whatever cost. You guys could just as easily chosen an NLE that has virtually no learning curve. There are many, and only FCP requires a proprietary OS. On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 8:14 AM, David Turk dt...@indianahistory.org wrote: I had my first session yesterday, am amazed that Apple can offer this level of training for only $99/year. Myself several co-workers are learning Final Cut ( trust me, you need thrusters on full when learning this program). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training
I've always known Apple was good for its customer support, but this just blew me away. This may be specific to our store (the only one in Indianapolis-actually... Nope. They offer this coast to coast. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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There are many, and only FCP requires a proprietary OS. You forgot that there are some NLEs that also run on Windows. They are not as good as the three choices provided by Apple, but they are there. I have not looked at the NLEs available on Linux. What do you suggest? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training
One on One a wonderful thing but it seems to me they will not be able to afford to keep doing it once Apple's current sales boom subsides... ? db Tom Piwowar wrote: I've always known Apple was good for its customer support, but this just blew me away. This may be specific to our store (the only one in Indianapolis-actually... Nope. They offer this coast to coast. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training
One on One a wonderful thing but it seems to me they will not be able to afford to keep doing it once Apple's current sales boom subsides... I was thinking they would not be able to afford to keep doing it as their sales kept booming. Too many takers would swamp their capacity. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training
There are few NLEs that come close to Final Cut Pro. Maybe Avid, but it's even more confusing. Once you learn the basics of FCP, it has no rivals for professional video editing. And, yes, I've used quite a few apps/solutions over the past 15 years. No, I didn't have FCP training; RTFM and practice was enough, plus moving away from Avid made FCP easy by comparison. I've taken several courses from Apple and related vendors. They're excellent. Best one was for ArchiCad. The video training was so far beyond what other companies offered, I was immediately sold on their software, and the hardware [videocams] they featured. BTW, Adobe Premiere Pro requires a proprietary OS, and is not as good as FCP. What's your point? No question, Final Cut is one of the more difficult NLEs to learn. Very steep learning curve. Probably rivaled only by Avid. But let's not confuse your decision to go with a difficult app - one that virtually demands training - to then praise the trainers needed at whatever cost. You guys could just as easily chosen an NLE that has virtually no learning curve. There are many, and only FCP requires a proprietary OS. I had my first session yesterday, am amazed that Apple can offer this level of training for only $99/year. Myself several co-workers are learning Final Cut ( trust me, you need thrusters on full when learning this program). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple One to One Training
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Tom Piwowar wrote: There are many, and only FCP requires a proprietary OS. You forgot that there are some NLEs that also run on Windows. They are not as good as the three choices provided by Apple, but they are there. I have not looked at the NLEs available on Linux. What do you suggest? I'm not the original poster, but in case people are interested in the available choices on Linux, I thought I'd chime in with my experiences. I don't think I can give an unqualified recommendation to any of the packages (yet). Cinelerra has been around the longest, derived from an older package called Broadcast 2000. It was the first one I tried, and I still can't figure out the interface totally (I can do some things in it). Kino is very simple, and fairly easy to use. Alas, it seems to be limited in its codec support (mostly DV) and import support (firewire only). I might use if it it supported more video codecs. Avidemux is very good, supports lots of codecs, but is fairly simple in its editing capabilities. If you don't need lots of fancy wipes and fades, I'd recommend this. Pitivi is very promising, but isn't yet stable. It has some transition effects, and supports more codecs than Kino. I'd probably recommend it once the stability is improved (no crashes). I like its interface. Kdenlive is more stable than Pitivi, but not quite production quality. It seems to have more options for transitions, but the interface is a little more complicated. If Avidemux doesn't do what you want, give this one a try. There are others I haven't yet tried. LiVES sounds interesting. And, apparently, Blender (an open source 3D modeler/renderer) has video editing capabilities. However, I was turned off by its interface for 3D modeling, so haven't tried it for video editing. -- Vicky Staubly http://www.steeds.com/vicky/vi...@steeds.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I too have seen and heard nothing but amazing things about training from Apple. But I think they might be able to continue their training service even with the increased volume. I bet a lot of people don't make maximum use of their available training time they pay for, and it gets people back in the store looking at all the great stuff to buy. Tom Piwowar wrote: One on One a wonderful thing but it seems to me they will not be able to afford to keep doing it once Apple's current sales boom subsides... I was thinking they would not be able to afford to keep doing it as their sales kept booming. Too many takers would swamp their capacity. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
