[CGUYS] Email Scam?
My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale. He received this email Monday. We're trying to ascertain whether this is a real person, if the offer is legit. There are several aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa, asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs). He's thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather than the artwork itself. Any thoughts would be appreciated. david [Begin email] Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse From: Sarah Baptiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good day to you out there. I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet search,I am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from you namely... Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you going to give?I will be happy to have these selected artworks hanged in our new ho me in South Africa. As well, I want you to take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping firm that will be shipping other house decoratives. We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon as possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you with a Money Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be easily cashed at your local bank,please let me know on how to procced for the payment of the creative artworks. I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day. Best regards, Sarah Baptiste __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [End email] * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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The incorrect grammar and misspellings would be enough to make me suspicious. If he does decide to respond, I'd ask for the money order up front, cash it and then send the artwork (plus shipping to Dallas or wherever). It is also offensive, imo as someone who represented artists over the years. Art can be bargained, but would you bargain your dinner at a restaurant or your new suit at the department store? /gayley knight David Turk wrote: My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale. He received this email Monday. We're trying to ascertain whether this is a real person, if the offer is legit. There are several aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa, asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs). He's thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather than the artwork itself. Any thoughts would be appreciated. david [Begin email] Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse From: Sarah Baptiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good day to you out there. I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet search,I am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from you namely... Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you going to give?I will be happy to have these selected artworks hanged in our new ho me in South Africa. As well, I want you to take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping firm that will be shipping other house decoratives. We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon as possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you with a Money Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be easily cashed at your local bank,please let me know on how to procced for the payment of the creative artworks. I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day. Best regards, Sarah Baptiste _ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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The bad grammar points I agree with. The Gallery page has the artist's phone number. Ask them to call you. I doubt they will. Worst case, take the offered cashiers check. Charles On Mar 20, 2008, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote: My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale. He received this email Monday. We're trying to ascertain whether this is a real person, if the offer is legit. There are several aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa, asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs). He's thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather than the artwork itself. Any thoughts would be appreciated. david [Begin email] Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse From: Sarah Baptiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good day to you out there. I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet search,I am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from you namely... Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you going to give?I will be happy to have these selected artworks hanged in our new ho me in South Africa. As well, I want you to take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping firm that will be shipping other house decoratives. We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon as possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you with a Money Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be easily cashed at your local bank,please let me know on how to procced for the payment of the creative artworks. I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day. Best regards, Sarah Baptiste __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [End email] ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Looks like the cashier's check scam. See Snopes on this: http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/cashier.asp -SAM -- Quoting David Turk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale. He received this email Monday. We're trying to ascertain whether this is a real person, if the offer is legit. There are several aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa, asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs). He's thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather than the artwork itself. Any thoughts would be appreciated. david [Begin email] Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse From: Sarah Baptiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good day to you out there. I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet search,I am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from you namely... Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you going to give?I will be happy to have these selected artworks hanged in our new ho me in South Africa. As well, I want you to take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping firm that will be shipping other house decoratives. We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon as possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you with a Money Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be easily cashed at your local bank,please let me know on how to procced for the payment of the creative artworks. I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Just the format and phrasing raises a host of red flags. It uses very generic wording that can apply to any targeted recipient. The placement of the images of interest looks like a mail merge of some kind. It just smells of an automated bulk email - not something who wants to decorate an apartment is likely to draft. I'd expect something much more personal, with details of how she came across your work, etc. Also, mail orders and cashiers checks are easy to counterfeit. Dan * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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there are a lot of counterfit cashiers checks out there. if a bad one comes from out of the country, the bank has about a year or so to cancel funds in your account. wire transfer should be clean. At 09:46 AM 3/20/2008, you wrote: The bad grammar points I agree with. The Gallery page has the artist's phone number. Ask them to call you. I doubt they will. Worst case, take the offered cashiers check. Charles On Mar 20, 2008, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote: My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale. He received this email Monday. We're trying to ascertain whether this is a real person, if the offer is legit. There are several aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa, asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs). He's thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather than the artwork itself. Any thoughts would be appreciated. david [Begin email] Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse From: Sarah Baptiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, March 17, 2008 6:29 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good day to you out there. I am so excited that I came across of your work on internet search,I am interested in purchasing some creative artworks from you namely... Heading Home.jpg,Serenity.jpg,Spring Announcement.jpg Let me know their various prices.and how much discounts are you going to give?I will be happy to have these selected artworks hanged in our new ho me in South Africa. As well, I want you to take out the shipping cost.I have been in touch with a shipping firm that will be shipping other house decoratives. We are travelling from our Dallas home to our new apartment as soon as possible.On Paying for the artworks,I will be glad to pay you with a Money Order or Cashier`s check in US funds that can be easily cashed at your local bank,please let me know on how to procced for the payment of the creative artworks. I will await your advise on how to proceed.Have a wonderful day. Best regards, Sarah Baptiste __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [End email] ** *** ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** ** *** * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse The subject line starts with [SPAM]. If you look at the email's headers (which you did not provide us) you will probably find some lines that begin with X-Spam that have a score from your ISP's spam filters. When that score is high enough many ISP's will add [SPAM] to the subject line. This would suggest that you buyer is bulk mailing these offers to buy. This is a tough decision. If you want to sell art via a website you have to be ready to fill orders that come via Internet. Yet you don't want to get scammed and orders that come via Internet always seem suspicious. So insist on payment in advance using a means that is not reversable, like money order or moneygram and redeem it for cash. Do not cash it at your bank. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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It is also offensive, imo as someone who represented artists over the years. Art can be bargained, but would you bargain your dinner at a restaurant or your new suit at the department store? Depends on which country I was in. In some countries everything is negotiable. In the US most things are negotiable, but sellers try to convince us that they are not. If you know someone in the restaurant business you will definitely see them negotiating with other restauranteurs. Same if you know somebody in the clothng business. Many times I have told a salesperson I see you have a sale, but it is not exactly what I need and have been told no problem. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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One correction. There are bogus money orders out there. DO TAKE IT to the bank. They can check their sources and see if it is bogus. Cashiers checks can be bogus and can also be cancelled. Stewart At 03:26 PM 3/20/2008, you wrote: Subject: [SPAM] Artworks purcahse The subject line starts with [SPAM]. If you look at the email's headers (which you did not provide us) you will probably find some lines that begin with X-Spam that have a score from your ISP's spam filters. When that score is high enough many ISP's will add [SPAM] to the subject line. This would suggest that you buyer is bulk mailing these offers to buy. This is a tough decision. If you want to sell art via a website you have to be ready to fill orders that come via Internet. Yet you don't want to get scammed and orders that come via Internet always seem suspicious. So insist on payment in advance using a means that is not reversable, like money order or moneygram and redeem it for cash. Do not cash it at your bank. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 20, 2008, at 8:14 AM, David Turk wrote: My partner has a website advertising his artwork for sale. He received this email Monday. We're trying to ascertain whether this is a real person, if the offer is legit. There are several aspects that make it sound questionable (moving to South Africa, asking for discounts, taking out the shipping costs). He's thinking of offering limited edition prints of the artwork, rather than the artwork itself. Any thoughts would be appreciated. I am quite positive that it is a scam. I work in an art gallery/ picture framing establishment, and we were hit with a similar e-mail scam involving the shipping of artwork. I protested against cooperating with the sender of the e-mail, but a couple of others at the gallery played along because they saw dollar signs. After they spent a lot of time sending e-mail back and forth to the sender, they finally discovered what I had told them all along, that it was a scam. Eventually it was found out that this type of scam is common, with a few twists added here and there to make them appear to be different in nature. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
