Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-04 Thread John DeCarlo
On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is what you are saying that Eudora 8 isn't Eudora at all; it's Thunderbird
 with a Eudora hood ornament?


From the README.TXT that comes with Eudora 8 beta:

Whereas Eudora is a branded version of Thunderbird with some extra
features added by the Eudora developers, Penelope is an extension (also
called an add-on) that is used in Eudora and can also be used with
Thunderbird.  The Eudora installer includes the corresponding version of
Penelope along with it so there is no need to install Penelope if you are
installing Eudora.  Most features in Penelope can be accessed when used with
Thunderbird, but there are a few that require Eudora in order to work
correctly and it's not something that gets tested.

Sometimes in documentation there is a need to differentiate the older
versions of Eudora made by Qualcomm from current Thunderbird-based versions
of Eudora.  This will normally be done by labeling the older versions of
Eudora as original Eudora or Classic Eudora.

The main web page for Eudora/Penelope can be found at
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope.




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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-04 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I would have to say that the newer Eudora with penelope is much nicer 
than earlier versions.


The tools are real tools that allow you to adjust most areas, even 
where the attachments are done.


Stewart


At 03:45 PM 8/4/2008, you wrote:

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is what you are saying that Eudora 8 isn't Eudora at all; it's Thunderbird
 with a Eudora hood ornament?


From the README.TXT that comes with Eudora 8 beta:

Whereas Eudora is a branded version of Thunderbird with some extra
features added by the Eudora developers, Penelope is an extension (also
called an add-on) that is used in Eudora and can also be used with
Thunderbird.  The Eudora installer includes the corresponding version of
Penelope along with it so there is no need to install Penelope if you are
installing Eudora.  Most features in Penelope can be accessed when used with
Thunderbird, but there are a few that require Eudora in order to work
correctly and it's not something that gets tested.

Sometimes in documentation there is a need to differentiate the older
versions of Eudora made by Qualcomm from current Thunderbird-based versions
of Eudora.  This will normally be done by labeling the older versions of
Eudora as original Eudora or Classic Eudora.

The main web page for Eudora/Penelope can be found at
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope.




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[CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-03 Thread gerald
i tried to open eudora 7 help in vista, and it would not open.  went to the 
eudora website, and see V8beta is available.  is this a good choice to put in 
vista? or is it too early.

when i loaded it, i was surprised that v8 did not overwrite 7, and it did not 
pick up filters, addresses, options from 7. 


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Sue Cubic

At 10:19 AM 08/03/2008 -0400, gerald wrote
i tried to open eudora 7 help in vista, and it would not open.  went to 
the eudora website, and see V8beta is available.  is this a good choice to 
put in vista? or is it too early.


when i loaded it, i was surprised that v8 did not overwrite 7, and it did 
not pick up filters, addresses, options from 7.


The Eudora tech lists are saying that Eudora 8 is a whole new program.  It 
is based on Thunderbird, with a Eudora skin.  The files are not arranged 
the same way and the functionality is quite different.  That's probably why 
it won't overwrite.  I don't know if you can even access the data files 
from Eudora 7 (and previous versions).  Perhaps there's an 'import' feature 
in V8 that works to do this?  I've not paid a lot of attention to the 
discussions, as I'm perfectly happy with the latest 'real' Eudora V7.1.0.9


Sue


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-03 Thread mike
Unfortunately you mean 'last' not latest.

Mike

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Sue Cubic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've not paid a lot of attention to the discussions, as I'm perfectly
 happy with the latest 'real' Eudora V7.1.0.9




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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Sue Cubic

At 10:13 AM 08/03/2008 -0700, mike wrote

Unfortunately you mean 'last' not latest.

Mike


Yeah, I know.  Actually I'm still using 4.2.2 on this old workhorse 
machine, and it suits me fine also!  On my newer machines, I'm using the 
last version.  I'm hearing there are a few glitches using V7.1 on Vista, 
but people seem to be getting those ironed out.  I don't have any Vista 
machines yet.


Sue


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Marcio V. Pinheiro
Me too. I keep and cherish my Eudora paid V 7.1.0.9. Great. Why are 
they trying to change it?...


Marcio

At 11:56 3/8/2008, you wrote:

At 10:19 AM 08/03/2008 -0400, gerald wrote
i tried to open eudora 7 help in vista, and it would not 
open.  went to the eudora website, and see V8beta is available.  is 
this a good choice to put in vista? or is it too early.


when i loaded it, i was surprised that v8 did not overwrite 7, and 
it did not pick up filters, addresses, options from 7.


The Eudora tech lists are saying that Eudora 8 is a whole new 
program.  It is based on Thunderbird, with a Eudora skin.  The 
files are not arranged the same way and the functionality is quite 
different.  That's probably why it won't overwrite.  I don't know if 
you can even access the data files from Eudora 7 (and previous 
versions).  Perhaps there's an 'import' feature in V8 that works to 
do this?  I've not paid a lot of attention to the discussions, as 
I'm perfectly happy with the latest 'real' Eudora V7.1.0.9


Sue


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-03 Thread mike
Qualcomm dropped Eudora and the mozilla group picked it up.  They are
essentially trying to skin thunderbird to behave like eudora.  If not for
this, Eudroa would be dead alltogether.

Mike

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Me too. I keep and cherish my Eudora paid V 7.1.0.9. Great. Why are they
 trying to change it?...

 Marcio


 At 11:56 3/8/2008, you wrote:

 At 10:19 AM 08/03/2008 -0400, gerald wrote

 i tried to open eudora 7 help in vista, and it would not open.  went to
 the eudora website, and see V8beta is available.  is this a good choice to
 put in vista? or is it too early.

 when i loaded it, i was surprised that v8 did not overwrite 7, and it did
 not pick up filters, addresses, options from 7.


 The Eudora tech lists are saying that Eudora 8 is a whole new program.  It
 is based on Thunderbird, with a Eudora skin.  The files are not arranged
 the same way and the functionality is quite different.  That's probably why
 it won't overwrite.  I don't know if you can even access the data files from
 Eudora 7 (and previous versions).  Perhaps there's an 'import' feature in V8
 that works to do this?  I've not paid a lot of attention to the discussions,
 as I'm perfectly happy with the latest 'real' Eudora V7.1.0.9

 Sue


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Qualcomm the original owners of Eudora quit developing it.

They handed it over to the folks at Firefox/Thunderbird for them to 
develop it as open source.


So any version that comes out after 7.1.0.9 will be free but 
developed over/under the Thunderbird engine.


Stewart


At 04:18 PM 8/3/2008, you wrote:
Me too. I keep and cherish my Eudora paid V 7.1.0.9. Great. Why are 
they trying to change it?...


Marcio


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Fred Holmes
Is what you are saying that Eudora 8 isn't Eudora at all; it's Thunderbird with 
a Eudora hood ornament?

At 10:56 AM 8/3/2008, Sue Cubic wrote:
At 10:19 AM 08/03/2008 -0400, gerald wrote
i tried to open eudora 7 help in vista, and it would not open.  went to the 
eudora website, and see V8beta is available.  is this a good choice to put in 
vista? or is it too early.

when i loaded it, i was surprised that v8 did not overwrite 7, and it did not 
pick up filters, addresses, options from 7.

The Eudora tech lists are saying that Eudora 8 is a whole new program.  It is 
based on Thunderbird, with a Eudora skin.  The files are not arranged the 
same way and the functionality is quite different.  That's probably why it 
won't overwrite.  I don't know if you can even access the data files from 
Eudora 7 (and previous versions).  Perhaps there's an 'import' feature in V8 
that works to do this?  I've not paid a lot of attention to the discussions, 
as I'm perfectly happy with the latest 'real' Eudora V7.1.0.9

Sue


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Actually it is a better Thunderbird.  I just installed it on both of 
my machines and it installed over my thunderbird.


Better menu, better tools, looks a little more like Eudora, but still 
an updated Thunderbird.


Stewart

At 08:08 PM 8/3/2008, you wrote:
Is what you are saying that Eudora 8 isn't Eudora at all; it's 
Thunderbird with a Eudora hood ornament?


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Re: [CGUYS] Eudora 8.0 beta in Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Sue Cubic

At 09:08 PM 08/03/2008 -0400, Fred Holmes wrote
Is what you are saying that Eudora 8 isn't Eudora at all; it's Thunderbird 
with a Eudora hood ornament?


Yes, that's what we're saying.

Sue


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