Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-31 Thread chad evans wyatt
Brilliant matchbox tutorial, why can't everything digital be explained with this level of lucidity?  Thanks, Betty --- On Fri, 1/30/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanned To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, January 30

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-31 Thread b_s-wilk
-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanned To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 8:03 PM Chad Czech, Slovak, Hungarian, Polish, Lithuanian are all included in Mac international keyboards. I think they need to be Unicode CE fonts othewise all

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-31 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Hey I might know some folks there who could help you! If your translation is the same one I had gotten. Stewart At 01:05 PM 1/31/2009, you wrote: Glad to provide some clarity. Now, will you find us a place to stay in Praha? HAHAHA [and a translator] Betty Rev. Stewart A. Marshall

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-30 Thread b_s-wilk
I have another take on the .pdf's, and take some issue with Tom. I have scanned my letterhead to a pretty high resolution .tif file. I can then type in photoshop my correspondance, then convert to .pdf - clunky, but it works. Files go from 37mb down to a manageable 500kb for e-mail. I am

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
When I create PDFs from Adobe InDesign, one of the choices is to embed the fonts. I think that Apple's Print to PDF embeds fonts by default. Not to be a dittohead, but with so much said on this topic I feel compelled to say the Betty knows what she is talking about. No voodoo here! Thanks.

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-30 Thread chad evans wyatt
, here, they deplete rapidly.  Thanks for a cogent analysis of our sad-sack wireless situation (fewer bars in more places). --- On Fri, 1/30/09, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanned To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Friday, January

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-30 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Where I live I do not have a problem with battery life. Also if you read ATT's ad real close they will say that the more bars in more places really means world wide not US specific. A little misleading. Stewart At 05:17 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote: Now this is example of why I hang with the

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-30 Thread b_s-wilk
Now this is example of why I hang with the list, overlooking the bloviating discussion that seems to have overwhelmed the original exchange of information. I have rushed to my InDesign disc, to learn these features, many thanks, Betty. Image quality was really fine with my voodoo improvisation

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread Jeff Wright
PDF is a vector format derived from PostScript. If you had the original document file, not a scan, then saving it into PDF would be a good idea. The PDF would contain the font information, the text (coded as ASCII or UTF), and geometry infomation about how the text is positioned on the page.

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread David K Watson
Of course, now that Adobe has opened up the pdf format, this may change. But for now, it's just not an editing format. I agree that PDF is not an editing format. But it was never really intended to be, it was intended to be a fixed presentation format. Also, while it is only recently that PDF

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread chad evans wyatt
to get them into the program, without luck.  Would appreciate any advice on this. --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Scanned To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 8:33 AM PDF

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I have another take on the .pdf's, and take some issue with Tom.  I have scanned my letterhead to a pretty high resolution .tif file.  I can then type in photoshop my correspondance, then convert to .pdf - clunky, but it works.  Files go from 37mb down to a manageable 500kb for e-mail.  I am

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
It's a good, compact and portable format that most people know what to do with. Few people outside of graphics departments have encountered a tiff; even fewer know what to do with it. So when you have a computer problem do you simply conclude that the gods are no longer smiling and you have to

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread Fred Holmes
At 09:55 AM 1/29/2009, chad evans wyatt wrote: I have another take on the .pdf's, and take some issue with Tom. I have scanned my letterhead to a pretty high resolution .tif file. I can then type in photoshop my correspondance, then convert to .pdf - clunky, but it works. Files go from 37mb

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread Jeff Wright
OS X's print to PDF feature is great, by the way. I use it regularly when sending documents that the recipient doesn't need to edit because that way I don't have to worry whether or not they can read it. Leopard gained the ability for PDF's to have working hyperlinks, at least for PDF's

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread Jeff Wright
This list is not about being stupid. I couldn't agree more. Doing things the way we've always done it and expecting everyone else to conform to your expectations is quite stupid. I prefer to use what works for non-techies so they can go about their day, unconcerned with the sausage making,

[CGUYS] Save to PDF?, was Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread One Man
Do you mean Save as PDF ? When I last used this feature on a Pages version 3.0.2 wp document, it saved the PDF in a hug font, larger than the original Pages wp document. I thought pdfs were to preserve the look of the original. What did I do wrong? OS X's print to PDF feature is great, by

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
I prefer to use what works for non-techies so they can go about their day, unconcerned with the sausage making, rather than what the self-proclaimed experts deem the right way. At least you are consistent. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread Jordan
Tom Piwowar wrote: This list is not about being stupid. Damn! I knew I was in the wrong place! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread David K Watson
Yeah, I got the PDF add-on for my older Office distribution at the same time I got the add-on for opening the newer Office formats. I'm guessing that they did this because OpenOffice has had a PDF feature for a while now. Competition is good! Speaking of the new Office formats, I thought that

Re: [CGUYS] Save to PDF?, was Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread David K Watson
Yes, I meant the Save as PDF… option on the Print dialog box. Calling it Print to PDF is fairly common, I think, unless my memory betrays me. As to the problem you had, the save as PDF option has always worked properly for me, but for some reason Preview will sometimes open up PDFs with a high

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread chad evans wyatt
An honor to be dope-slapped.  Equal opportunity.  You did see the file reduction, right?   Of course I tried .jpg compression first, but that printed very badly @500kb.  I wanted a file that would both reduce, but print well, if needed.  .pdf conversion worked, trial and error, not sorcery.  I

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
An honor to be dope-slapped.  Equal opportunity.  You did see the file reduction, right?   Of course I tried .jpg compression first, but that printed very badly @500kb.  I wanted a file that would both reduce, but print well, if needed.  .pdf conversion worked, trial and error, not sorcery.

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread rleesimon
Awcrap ...and I thought I was among peers !! Silly me !! -Original Message- From: Jordan [mailto:jor17...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Scanned Tom Piwowar wrote: This list is not about being stupid. Damn! I knew I was in the wrong place!

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread betty
chad evans wyatt cewyattph...@yahoo.com escribió: An honor to be dope-slapped. Equal opportunity. You did see the file reduction, right? Of course I tried .jpg compression first, but that printed very badly @500kb. I wanted a file that would both reduce, but print well, if needed. .pdf

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
Damn! I knew I was in the wrong place! I guess that proves you are not stupid. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-28 Thread Fred Holmes
At 03:30 PM 1/27/2009, Marcio V. Pinheiro wrote: I scanned a document and all went well. I sent it by e-mail as attachment but it arrived in a large size not only filling the whole e-mail page but going much beyond (jpeg). How can I email the documento in a size that fits the page? Many thanks

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-28 Thread Ralph
I'm with Jeff on this. It may not be the most efficient method, but my scanner creates a jpeg which I print to a pdf doc. I then attach that to an email message. For the print/conversion from jpeg to pdf, I use PDFCreator http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
Yeah, but it's a document; PDF was made for documents. We don't know if it needs to be edited or not. That's right, but from that point you veer into wrongness. A scanned image is a bunch of pixels, a raster image. The basic file format for this is TIFF. You can compress the TIFF with something

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-28 Thread Tony B
Alas, the OP got booted from the list just as we all tried to find out what he was really trying to accomplish. Perhaps he'll take the time to look through the archives, then get back to us. No point in arguing file formats until we know what he's doing. On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Tom

[CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-27 Thread Marcio V. Pinheiro
I scanned a document and all went well. I sent it by e-mail as attachment but it arrived in a large size not only filling the whole e-mail page but going much beyond (jpeg). How can I email the documento in a size that fits the page? Many thanks Marcio

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-27 Thread Tony B
Oh, and generally, you don't want to use jpeg unless photos are involved. For text, .tif is best, especially if you use bw. .gif will also work. Reason is, jpeg really sucks at text. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Marcio V. Pinheiro wefp...@terra.com.br wrote: I scanned a document and all

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-27 Thread Chris Dunford
I scanned a document and all went well. I sent it by e-mail as attachment but it arrived in a large size not only filling the whole e-mail page but going much beyond (jpeg). How can I email the documento in a size that fits the page? You can either rescan it at 72dpi or load it into an image

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-27 Thread Tony B
Your first mistake was in scanning to too high a resolution. You probably had like 300dpi selected. Try 100dpi and the file will right there be 1/3 the size. Also you may be able to scan to black and white, if no color is required. Lastly, you can just resize the image using any photo editor

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
I scanned a document and all went well. I sent it by e-mail as attachment but it arrived in a large size not only filling the whole e-mail page but going much beyond (jpeg). How can I email the documento in a size that fits the page? You may not have done anything wrong, except perhaps using

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Why is no one suggesting that he send it as a pdf? Is that an option for you Marcio? A good number of the included scanning software I have come across has an OCR app and/or the option to scan as a pdf. -Original Message- You may not have done anything wrong, except perhaps using JPEG

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-27 Thread Tony B
I didn't because pdf is more of a _destination_ format than an editing or archival format. Not a good comparison, but I would liken it to scanning an important painting; you wouldn't save it as a jpg, because you would know it may need editing later. Of course, now that Adobe has opened up the

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-27 Thread Jeff Wright
Yeah, but it's a document; PDF was made for documents. We don't know if it needs to be edited or not. FWIW, I hate it when people send us documents in tiff format, because: a) the attachment is much larger than it needs to be, taking up useful space in the mailbox and b) I always get the call

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-27 Thread Tony B
Ya, but good thing you don't have to open the darn thing up and spell check it! Virtually impossible with pdfs, unless you have expensive software installed. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Jeff Wright jswri...@gmail.com wrote: I like how our Canon networked copier/printers do it. It will

Re: [CGUYS] Scanned

2009-01-27 Thread Jeff Wright
True that. But, I'm talking about signed documents and the like in hard form. Ya, but good thing you don't have to open the darn thing up and spell check it! Virtually impossible with pdfs, unless you have expensive software installed.