Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/DSL...]

2009-03-01 Thread Fred Holmes
At 05:43 PM 2/26/2009, Tony B wrote: Let's not confuse the issue. Gas heaters use pilot lights, and the thermocouple in the flame generates enough micro voltage to run the thermostat. Again, an outside source of electricity would only be required to run any fans. But the units will heat a house

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/

2009-02-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
We have two propane heaters--no electricity, no natural gas lines. Glow-Warm 18,000 BTU, Comfort Glow 15,000 BTU. Can be vented or unvented. Ours are unvented since they're so small and low-power. Doesn't unvented fill the house with noxious fumes? I have read that even cooking with gas has

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters

2009-02-27 Thread Tony B
No. Even if there's a malfunction, the pilot lights are cleverly designed so that if the oxygen levels in the room lower, they go out. But normally gas burns pretty much completely, only leaving a bit of moisture in the air. It's said that after many, many years you can detect a darkening in a

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters

2009-02-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I am not sure where Betty lives, but if a Tornado or Hurricane comes through this area, we can all end up going a week or maybe less without power. During the summer it is just stifling. If I could afford Solar I would do it, it just makes sense down here. But I do have a gas water heater

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/

2009-02-27 Thread b_s-wilk
We have two propane heaters--no electricity, no natural gas lines. Glow-Warm 18,000 BTU, Comfort Glow 15,000 BTU. Can be vented or unvented. Ours are unvented since they're so small and low-power. Doesn't unvented fill the house with noxious fumes? I have read that even cooking with gas has

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/

2009-02-27 Thread Richard P.
Years ago a friend put one of the ventless heaters in a small trailer she was renting. When she got home on a cold winter day, everything was soaked inside from the water vapor. Obviously, it wasn't a good fit for that type of installation. Richard P. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:00 PM, b_s-wilk

[CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread Tom Piwowar
passive gas heaters Tell us more. I Googled the term and got just 1 hit (in French). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread Tony B
Heh. That *is* an odd phraseology - sounds like a medical device. :) http://www.fireplacesandwoodstoves.com/indoor-fireplaces/propane-fireplaces.aspx Gas heaters generally take either propane or natural gas, and require no electricity to heat. Some units have a fan, but it's not really

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread db
Depends on what they use to ignite the gas and to control it. In the old days it was lit with a match... more recently, like your electrically ignited gas stoves, it is often electricity... but unlike gas stove, heaters have thermocouples which may require electricity ... and sometimes a

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread Tony B
Let's not confuse the issue. Gas heaters use pilot lights, and the thermocouple in the flame generates enough micro voltage to run the thermostat. Again, an outside source of electricity would only be required to run any fans. But the units will heat a house with no electricity at all. Or, if you

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/

2009-02-26 Thread Tom Piwowar
Depends on what they use to ignite the gas and to control it. Could it use a catalytic process that does not require an igniter? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy,

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Not anymore. Many of them have gone to a pilotless ignition system. (Including gas stoves) You need electricity to run the fan, and also the thermostat. Unless you are talking about gas space heaters. Stewart At 04:43 PM 2/26/2009, you wrote: Let's not confuse the issue. Gas heaters use

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread db
The point I was trying to make is while the models you speak of require no electricity, people should be aware there are some which do. and for more than the fan. db. Richard P. wrote: The term is one I heard to indicate an ability to have a gas heater be able to run without an outside

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread b_s-wilk
passive gas heaters Tell us more. I Googled the term and got just 1 hit (in French). We have two propane heaters--no electricity, no natural gas lines. Glow-Warm 18,000 BTU, Comfort Glow 15,000 BTU. Can be vented or unvented. Ours are unvented since they're so small and low-power. Both