Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-10 Thread Jeff Wright
Did you read any of the references that John so thoughtfully provided you? No, because I don't use MySql. I can do native SQL replication with SQL Server 2005, which I have to use, but there is still that pesky issue of vendors not wanting to give away their hardware for free. Funny that. I

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread Jeff Wright
Everyone is scratching their heads about it, except for Gates who is scratching his butt. It was the Zune of broadcast advertising. Everyone? As in, How could Nixon win, since everyone I know voted for McGovern? I'm not scratching my head, but then I'm not stuck in the creepy, minimalist

Re: [CGUYS] On-board Ethernet Connection (was:Re: Hard Drive Failure?)

2008-09-10 Thread Fred Holmes
Go into Device Manager and find the NIC, which likely will _NOT_ show up as a yellow question mark, and uninstall it. Look under Network Adapters. If you don't see something that you know is the NIC, uninstall everything under that heading. Then reboot. Fred Holmes At 11:53 PM 9/9/2008,

Re: [CGUYS] On-board Ethernet Connection (was:Re: Hard Drive Failure?)

2008-09-10 Thread Tony B
Of course, if the NIC has simply failed (happens all the time), it won't be showing up in Device Manager. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Fred Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go into Device Manager and find the NIC, which likely will _NOT_ show up as a yellow question mark, and uninstall it.

Re: [CGUYS] Chrome snatches share from IE

2008-09-10 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasictax

Re: [CGUYS] On-board Ethernet Connection (was:Re: Hard Drive Fa

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
I uninstalled them all and tried to reinstall them when the computer found them upon reboot, but that installation failed. The monitor refresh is sluggish, and the Ethernet port still doesn't work. Any suggestions or is it time to give up. Can't figure out if it's hardware or software or both at

[CGUYS] myEarthLink News Article - Pearl Flip is first BlackBerry that folds up

2008-09-10 Thread Stewart Marshall
that folds up http://my.earthlink.net/article/tec?guid=20080910/48c74640_3ca6_1552620080910-884094760 = myEarthLink News http://my.earthlink.net/channel/NEWS

Re: [CGUYS] myEarthLink News Article - Pearl Flip is first BlackBerry that folds up

2008-09-10 Thread Jeff Wright
I don't care for the Pearl much, I prefer the full qwerty keyboard, but this is a good idea. The OS is rock-solid, *never* crashing, as is the hardware. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personal Message: RIM keeps on rolling along. They think and

Re: [CGUYS] myEarthLink News Article - Pearl Flip is first BlackBerry that folds up

2008-09-10 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
RIM also is carrier independent. I think all of the major carriers in the US carry their equipment. Stewart At 11:02 AM 9/10/2008, you wrote: I don't care for the Pearl much, I prefer the full qwerty keyboard, but this is a good idea. The OS is rock-solid, *never* crashing, as is the

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread b_s-wilk
BTW, that article you posted was Q1 2007... Crap, you are correct. It seems I pulled a Bloomberg (read about United Airlines this AM for the reference). I have seen numbers quoted for 1Q 2008 of WM sales a 4.5 million and iPhone sales of 1.8 million. There are dozens of WM smart phones,

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread Larry Sacks
I thought it was cute and a bit quirky. I especially liked the touch of Gates showing his membership card to the shoe store too. Tom can't admit to liking it - or even finding it mildly amusing - because he's lifetime member of the I hate MS club. :-) -Original Message- From: Computer

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread Jeff Wright
There are dozens of WM smart phones, compared to Apple's iPhone. Which was exactly my original point. You seemed to have missed that. You can either enjoy choice or being told what to do. I promise to act surprised as to what decision you make.

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread Jeff Wright
Possible, but there is no good reason to do that. RAID is just a buzz word to impress rubes. It would be more impressive to tell them you have an LHC in the basement. There's no possible, it is. I suppose someone would run their SAN/NAS as a JBOD (just a bunch of disks), but all that does is

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread Michael Lewis
Jeff Wright sez: You can either enjoy choice or being told what to do. I promise to act surprised as to what decision you make. God, what a nasty person. -- Michael Lewis Off Balance Productions [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.offbalance.com

Re: [CGUYS] On-board Ethernet Connection (was:Re: Hard Drive Fa

2008-09-10 Thread Jordan
Tom Piwowar wrote: I uninstalled them all and tried to reinstall them when the computer found them upon reboot, but that installation failed. The monitor refresh is sluggish, and the Ethernet port still doesn't work. Any suggestions or is it time to give up. Can't figure out if it's hardware or

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread mike
If you think that's nasty, you must have missed the name calling earlier. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Michael Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Jeff Wright sez: You can either enjoy choice or being told what to do. I promise to act surprised as to what decision you make. God, what a

Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer if backing up on external driv

2008-09-10 Thread mike
I'm putting the argument in the parameters you set. As to if you are acting or not, I won't guess. I'm still waiting for the solution that improves on the old RAID technology..now we sit and wait for you to tell us which HD's you were talking about when you claimed anyone with a failed drive must

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread Jeff Wright
You can either enjoy choice or being told what to do. I promise to act surprised as to what decision you make. God, what a nasty person. I didn't think I was being nasty at all; far less than Herr Doctor usually is. It was a poke at Betty and what I know of her predilections as to computers.

Re: [CGUYS] myEarthLink News Article - Pearl Flip is first BlackBerry that folds up

2008-09-10 Thread b_s-wilk
How pathetic. Smart Blackberry users can't figure out how to lock their keyboards. Flip phones are pointless. RIM is rolling down. RIM keeps on rolling along. They think and anticipate and get into the right items. *

[CGUYS] Smart phone OS [was: All Hail Lord Steve!]

2008-09-10 Thread b_s-wilk
There are dozens of WM smart phones, compared to Apple's iPhone. Which was exactly my original point. You seemed to have missed that. You can either enjoy choice or being told what to do. I promise to act surprised as to what decision you make. Ah, statistics! How many manufacturers'

Re: [CGUYS] Smart phone OS [was: All Hail Lord Steve!]

2008-09-10 Thread Jeff Wright
How many of those WM phones are the ones purchased by a company for employees [telling them what to use], and what do those employees purchase for their personal use? Betty--It's a very simple concept I was commenting on: Microsoft gives you a wide choice of devices and carriers from which to

[CGUYS] Making Video Settings Stick

2008-09-10 Thread gerald
i have an ati radon 1200 with 256 meg of ram. run vista. both latest upgrades. have a V7 22 wide screen monitor. cheap Acer with quad core. installed ATI CCC(catalyst control center). i set the display to 1440 x 900. all is fine. when i shut down the computer and reboot, the display

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread John DeCarlo
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Jeff Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's no possible, it is. I suppose someone would run their SAN/NAS as a JBOD (just a bunch of disks), but all that does is give you a little extra storage at the cost of fault tolerance for the drives. Better to have

Re: [CGUYS] Making Video Settings Stick

2008-09-10 Thread Tony B
Are you sure your 22 LCD monitor isn't native 1680X1050? Unlike CRTs, you want to set an LCD to it's exact resolution. Maybe the res you're trying to enter is so far off it's getting rejected? On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:07 PM, gerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have an ati radon 1200 with 256 meg

Re: [CGUYS] Smart phone OS [was: All Hail Lord Steve!]

2008-09-10 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
In many cases Betty Iphones have not been a corporate buy! I knew one person who tried tog et one and they would not sell it as a corporate phone. Also note many folks who get a phone through work do not carry another phone. They use what the company gets them. Many many smart phones are

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread chad evans wyatt
On behalf of the rest of us who are quite tired of this shouting match of the deaf, thank you. --- On Wed, 9/10/08, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i To:

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread mike
The last 12 years, one bad RAID controller. Same time period, more then a dozen bad HD's. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:57 PM, John DeCarlo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: RAID has some possible uses nowadays. Sure. Let's see if we can recap. 1. Those with just a little money or those with a lot

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
There's no possible, it is. I suppose someone would run their SAN/NAS as a JBOD (just a bunch of disks), but all that does is give you a little extra storage at the cost of fault tolerance for the drives. Better to have the best of both worlds, if you can swing it. You ignore the ability of the

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own I'll go with that. Thank you. However, did not one of the links posted here state that Google does not use RAID, it uses replication, except in a few situations where they find RAID is unavoidable.

Re: [CGUYS] Smart phone OS [was: All Hail Lord Steve!]

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
In many cases Betty Iphones have not been a corporate buy! I knew one person who tried tog et one and they would not sell it as a corporate phone. Old, obsolete news and an example of ATT being slow on the draw. The consumer rollout consumed all their brain cells. Eventually they did produce

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
John, I really think that you've been at Mitre for so long that you don't have any idea of what conditions are like for smaller organizations, especially in non-profits. I'm lucky to get the money to replace desktops right now. Im trying to conjure up a mental image of where Jeff works. My

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
The last 12 years, one bad RAID controller. Same time period, more then a dozen bad HD's. I will accept that was true *12 years ago*. I will not accept that as the case with currently sold drives. It has not been the case for the last few years.

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
When did you get a picture of my office? Stewart At 05:04 PM 9/10/2008, you wrote: Im trying to conjure up a mental image of where Jeff works. My crystal ball reveals a snake pit worthy of Indiana Jones. Inch-thick coaxial ethernet cables slither and sparks leap out from behind hulking

Re: [CGUYS] Smart phone OS [was: All Hail Lord Steve!]

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
Betty--It's a very simple concept I was commenting on: Microsoft gives you a wide choice of devices and carriers from which to choose. Apple does not. Choice vs. dictates, and for now, in this scenario, choice is ahead. That is just a silly comparison. That is like asking someone to choose

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own I'll go with that. Thank you. I like John's postings... he's rational, and where his solution might not work for everyone, he usually acknowledges that. However, did not one of the links posted here state that

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
I also know that she prefers Nokia phones, so it really had nothing to do with phones choices per se. Nokia just signed on with Microsoft, so that may change: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-10037506-94.html And Android too. So?

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
Tom can't admit to liking it - or even finding it mildly amusing - because he's lifetime member of the I hate MS club. :-) I work with people in the media industry, not computer geeks. The MS ad has attracted attention and does produce laughter, but of the derisive what the heck were they

Re: [CGUYS] Smart phone OS [was: All Hail Lord Steve!]

2008-09-10 Thread mike
But sadly no push! for the wannabe blackberry converts :( On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In many cases Betty Iphones have not been a corporate buy! I knew one person who tried tog et one and they would not sell it as a corporate phone. Old, obsolete

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 9:51 AM -0700 9/10/08, Larry Sacks wrote: I thought it was cute and a bit quirky. I especially liked the touch of Gates showing his membership card to the shoe store too. Did you catch that the picture on the membership card was his mug shot from when he was busted for speeding in New

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread mike
This is over the span of 12 years. A hard drive just failed a month ago at one location...either a seagate or WD drive, not sure. Either way, the only thing that at this point that kept his company running along was the RAID. Had the whole box gone down, or the RAID controller we'd have rebuilt

Re: [CGUYS] Replication (was Re: [CGUYS] Back ups on computer i

2008-09-10 Thread mike
Yeah I'm not sure of many small businesses that can afford a cluster at the office. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Vicky Staubly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: John DeCarlo, My Views Are My Own I'll go with that. Thank you. I like John's postings...

Re: [CGUYS] All Hail Lord Steve!

2008-09-10 Thread Larry Sacks
You work in HOLLYWOOD!?! Why didn't you say so in the first place??! What's it like to get to hang with all those really, really, really important people? -Original Message- From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Eric S. Sande
Yes, but the question remains, Big Bang Breakfast Bar or The Restaurant at the End of the Universe? Heh. The CERN people say if it happens it (the black hole) would be so small as to be completely unstable and would not persist for more than an infinitesmal period of time. They also argue

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, mike wrote: Would we have to deal with Al Gore's company selling black hole offsets? Or worse yet, Bush claiming that the black hole is a natural phenomenon, so we don't need to do anything about it. :-) On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Eric S. Sande [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread John DeCarlo
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Vicky Staubly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, mike wrote: Would we have to deal with Al Gore's company selling black hole offsets? Or worse yet, Bush claiming that the black hole is a natural phenomenon, so we don't need to do anything about

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread mike
That's true, it's not like there aren't any other black holes in the universe... On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Vicky Staubly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, mike wrote: Would we have to deal with Al Gore's company selling black hole offsets? Or worse yet, Bush claiming

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
Nobody really KNOWS what is going to happen, but that's the whole point of the experiment. Risk is computed as the product of (probability of occurrence) times (the degree of horribleness of the event). So probability of occurrence is a very small number. What value for degree of horribleness

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Michael Fernando
What value for degree of horribleness do you assign to total destruction of the planet? 42 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread mike
If no one is here to measure it, is there any horribleness at all? On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What value for degree of horribleness do you assign to total destruction of the planet?

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Eric S. Sande
Risk is computed as the product of (probability of occurrence) times (the degree of horribleness of the event). So probability of occurrence is a very small number. What value for degree of horribleness do you assign to total destruction of the planet? Ah, I'm going to punt on that one.

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
If no one is here to measure it, is there any horribleness at all? So how quickly does a mini-black hole eat all of creation? Do we watch Europe vanish all at once or over a period of weeks? Does a weakened earth start to break up into chunks? At what point does the atmosphere evaporate?

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Fred Holmes
At 11:07 PM 9/10/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: At what point does the atmosphere evaporate? It already is vapor! A Gas! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a

Re: [CGUYS] LHC

2008-09-10 Thread Fred Holmes
At 09:44 PM 9/10/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: What value for degree of horribleness do you assign to total destruction of the planet? Zero? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

RE: [gini] issue with os.getlogin()

2008-09-10 Thread Daniel Ng
The issue is with Konsole. os.getlogin() does not work with it, this should be fixed with the first update. Use os.getenv(USER) instead. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexis Malozemoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 10, 2008