[CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
Yesterday afternoon, as a passenger in a car on westbound Route 66 nearing an exit to Manassas, Virginia, we were passing a minivan when I saw yet another example of why mobile computing, and I include cell phones in that category, must be banned. A guy was driving that van at about 60 mph in

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I agree and some of the biggest offenders are law enforcement and government. Most police, (Sheriffs, city, state) now have laptops mounted on their consoles for data look ups of traffic stops etc. Plus they all have cell phones (A lot down here push to talk) and I see these folks constantly

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: I agree and some of the biggest offenders are law enforcement and government. Various of these agencies, as well as some businesses, are exempted from state laws that could be used to prosecute those

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Sue Cubic
At 08:03 AM 1/27/2010, you wrote: I agree and some of the biggest offenders are law enforcement and government. There is no official word yet on this one, but generally accepted that this is what happened in this accident: http://www.pressconnects.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=20101210382

[CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-01-27 Thread tjpa
I'm stumped. The dear folks from Adobe have produced a file on my Mac (OS X.5) named Icon\r which I can't delete or rename. rm -i * does prompt me with the file name, buy when I reply y it says no such file or directory. Any suggestions for deletion?

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Sue Cubic scu...@earthlink.net wrote: The speed limit was 55 mph, but speed was not a factor based on interviews with people who witnessed the crash, Molinari said. He also said drug screening came back negative, but police haven't ruled out the possibility

Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-01-27 Thread John Emmerling
try all the following: rm -i Icon\\r rm -i 'Icon\\r' rm -i Icon\r rm -i 'Icon\r' Probably one of them will work. Hope this helps! On 1/27/10, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: I'm stumped. The dear folks from Adobe have produced a file on my Mac (OS X.5) named Icon\r which I can't delete or rename.

Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-01-27 Thread Paul Cannon
rm Icon\\r On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 09:22:09AM -0500, tjpa wrote: I'm stumped. The dear folks from Adobe have produced a file on my Mac (OS X.5) named Icon\r which I can't delete or rename. rm -i * does prompt me with the file name, buy when I reply y it says no such file or directory.

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread mike
Why does it matter what someone was doing on the cell phone? Shouldn't using it be enough? Start worrying about what they were doing and suddenly our idiot lawmakers will make it so certain apps are exempt. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:35 AM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On

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2010-01-27 Thread b_s-wilk
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Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Dunford
I get after my wife all the time for calling me while she knows I am on the road. (MY blue tooth does not work.) We've solved that one. Anyone in the family can call anyone else when we know they're driving, but the driver won't answer (we don't even look at the phone). Instead, the driver

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread George Carr
Technology helped to create this problem but technology eventually will provide solutions such as safer cars, reliable crash-avoidance systems, and even vehicles that drive themselves. Meanwhile people need to focus on their driving. Did I read somewhere about a car-based system that would disable

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Stewart Marshall
If traveling with someone I say its for you! Stewart At 10:18 AM 1/27/2010, you wrote: I get after my wife all the time for calling me while she knows I am on the road. (MY blue tooth does not work.) We've solved that one. Anyone in the family can call anyone else when we know they're

[CGUYS] What the Press Knows About Tech

2010-01-27 Thread tjpa
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Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-01-27 Thread tjpa
On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:03 AM, John Emmerling wrote: rm -i Icon\\r rm -i 'Icon\\r' rm -i Icon\r rm -i 'Icon\r' Alas no. Even the dread rm * fails to conquer. The backslash is an escape character. The idiots actually have a control character in the filename.

[CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread tjp
http://gizmodo.com/306370/what-the-hell-is-a-zune-pad $499 for an iPad. Hooha! That is what my original iPod cost. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:27 AM, George Carr geo...@georgecarrstudio.comwrote: Technology helped to create this problem but technology eventually will provide solutions such as safer cars, reliable crash-avoidance systems, and even vehicles that drive themselves. Meanwhile people need to

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Missed the live demo (working), but reading the tech press, it appears that Steve hit another home run. I was impressed; we should probably start testing Jobs for steroids! Previous tech rumors reported $1,000 price, then polls said people would pay only 700. The various models priced from

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread mike
It will be interesting to see where the apps take this thing. So far its just a big ipod touch. On Jan 27, 2010 3:26 PM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote: Missed the live demo (working), but reading the tech press, it appears that Steve hit another home run. I was impressed; we

Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-01-27 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
tjpa I'm stumped. The dear folks from Adobe have produced a file on my Mac (OS X.5) named Icon\r which I can't delete or rename. rm -i * does prompt me with the file name, buy when I reply y it says no such file or directory. Any suggestions for deletion? Re-reading this, does the

Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-01-27 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
tjpa On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:03 AM, John Emmerling wrote: rm -i Icon\\r rm -i 'Icon\\r' rm -i Icon\r rm -i 'Icon\r' Maybe rm -if ./Ico* You may have to drop the i part and wipe out Icoa, Icob, etc. I thought there was an option to delete by the inode, but I don't see it mentioned on the man

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Dunford
$499 for an iPad. Hooha! That is what my original iPod cost. I'm confused. Didn't Jobs say that netbooks are stupid because what you get is a slow processor, a small screen, and a small keyboard? So he releases a box with a slow processor, a small screen, and no keyboard? I dunno, I'm having

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Not only that it is the Iphone OS. Not a full OS. Stewart At 05:18 PM 1/27/2010, you wrote: $499 for an iPad. Hooha! That is what my original iPod cost. I'm confused. Didn't Jobs say that netbooks are stupid because what you get is a slow processor, a small screen, and a small keyboard?

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread mike
I could see this being used in doctors offices to hold chart info, although most offices I've been in lately have a small light appliance already in the room. Much easier to lose the ipad or drop it. On Jan 27, 2010 4:57 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Not only

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread Stewart Marshall
To do that they would have to develop an app for that. Many doctors offices I have been in already use MS tablets with the software etc. to do all this. Quite nice little things, costlier than the Ipad. But they have developed a networkable database type software for it. I have not seen

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:32 AM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Why does it matter what someone was doing on the cell phone?   Shouldn't using it be enough?  Start worrying about what they were doing and suddenly our idiot lawmakers will make it so certain apps are exempt. I do not disagree.

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Jeff Miles
Speaking to the negative drug test result. I'm still on the side that cell phone or other similar electronic devices used while driving should be charged with the same harshness as DUI. If someone is killed due to the use, it should also be charged the same as killing while under the

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Jeff Miles
Isn't this easy enough to find out? Don't cell phones and/or the provider keep time stamped logs of usage? Jeff Miles jmile...@charter.net Join my Mafia http://apps.facebook.com/inthemafia/status_invite.php?from=550968726 On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:35 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Partially it is the intolerance of anyone under the influence and what they can get away with charging. Makes DA's look good tough on crime etc. Also raises lots of dough for local municipality etc. Plus the fact that some of these are usually plea dealed down it gives them a stronger hand

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread MrMike6by9
Missed the live demo (working), but reading the tech press, it appears that Steve hit another home run.  I was impressed; we should probably start testing Jobs for steroids! The folks at EverythingiCafe are largely negative regarding this latest gadget from Apple. YMMV

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread mike
Gizmodo too http://gizmodo.com/5458382/8-things-that-suck-about-the-ipad? I have to agree with most of what they say...it is odd it's not widescreen and no HDMI out. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:01 PM, MrMike6by9 mrmike6...@gmail.com wrote: Missed the live demo (working), but reading the tech

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Rich Schinnell
Jeff, when I was growing up in Washington State, Indians could only buy 3.2 beer, no hard liquor and all liquor was available in a state liquor store and you had to have a liquor card to buy. Also, it was against the law to pick up a beer/drink from the bar and walk to your table with it. A

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net: Most of the stuff I have heard this afternoon place it somewhere on a hyper kindle that will have new stiff developed for it. The Apple site, of course, has a video. It strikes me as eminently more useful than an iPod. Certainly easier to

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Sue Cubic
At 08:36 PM 1/27/2010, you wrote: Isn't this easy enough to find out? Don't cell phones and/or the provider keep time stamped logs of usage? Of course they do, but I doubt we ever hear the end of the story--if anyone even wants to look. The funeral was huge--big parade of police

Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Fernando
rm -i Icon\\r rm -i 'Icon\\r' rm -i Icon\r rm -i 'Icon\r' Alas no. Even the dread rm * fails to conquer. A couple of ideas: 1) move everything else out of that directory. cd .. \rm -rf that directory name 2) I'm not sure if OSX comes with emacs, but I've used emacs' directory

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Reid Katan ka...@his.com wrote: What they *need* to do is pour more money into the naming of these things. iPhone, iBook, iPod, iMac, iTune, iStore, iPad, iWork, iPhoto, iCal, iChat. When is it going to iEnd? So much for creativity. What's the i for? Did

Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?

2010-01-27 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting mike xha...@gmail.com: Gizmodo too http://gizmodo.com/5458382/8-things-that-suck-about-the-ipad? I have to agree with most of what they say...it is odd it's not widescreen and no HDMI out. And no multitasking seems a bit of a downer. It would be nice to be able to listen to some

Re: [CGUYS] Ban mobile computing

2010-01-27 Thread Constance Warner
Safer cars don't do very much for pedestrians, who are no match for drivers on cellphones or computers. Distracted, cellphone-using, and computer-using drivers are a particular menace to anyone who takes public transportation and who is therefore a pedestrian a lot of the time. Just try