On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:44 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the point is, you in good faith called and tried to fix the
situation, they in turn have been screwing around. This reminds me of that
problem when a student finds a teacher grades their paper wrong in the
students
Well with friends like these..
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:05 PM, John Duncan Yoyo
johnduncany...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:44 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the point is, you in good faith called and tried to fix the
situation, they in turn have been screwing
Mike is right. Their screw-up, not yours. Let them jump through hoops,
if they are willing to, to get their more expensive computer back.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
I think the point is, you in good faith called and tried to fix the
situation, they in turn have been
: [CGUYS] Swapping Boot Drives
On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Michael Wosnick wrote:
Instead I have a Precision T7500 workstation that I neither want nor ordered.
Why don't you just keep what you got? Looks like a fine PC
On Dec 16, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Michael Wosnick wrote:
Because I assume that if I keep it, then sooner or later I will have
to PAY for it. At about $6K list price t is 4x more than my budget :(
Unless the laws have changed a lot I believe you are allowed to keep
stuff that is mailed to you
With all the trouble, I'd do the same. You TRIED to fix it...they aren't.
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:03 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Dec 16, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Michael Wosnick wrote:
Because I assume that if I keep it, then sooner or later I will have to
PAY for it. At about $6K list
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On Dec 16, 2009, at 7:48 AM, Michael Wosnick wrote:
Because I assume that if I keep it, then sooner or later I will have to PAY
for it. At about $6K list price t is 4x
in error. Granted it is THEIR error, but how does that justify me just
keeping what isn't mine
From: tjpa t...@tjpa.com
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Sent: Wed, December 16, 2009 7:03:45 PM
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On Dec 16
Actually, I ran the Win7 RC from an external USB dock and it seemed
fine. I don't have esata hooked up, but all my USB peripherals seemed
fine. eSata is mostly controlled by the bios, not the OS, so I would
imagine it would work. I didn't even notice a slowdown or a
bottleneck, presumably because
vent smile
Michael
From: Tony B ton...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 9:05:00 AM
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Actually, I ran the Win7 RC from an external USB dock and it seemed
fine. I don't have esata
about OS installation and drive swapping.
Thanks for letting me vent smile
Michael
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Actually, I ran
:00 AM
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Actually, I ran the Win7 RC from an external USB dock and it seemed
fine. I don't have esata hooked up, but all my USB peripherals seemed
fine. eSata is mostly controlled by the bios, not the OS, so I would
imagine it would work. I didn't even
.
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Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 10:13:23 PM
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It could be faster to cancel, return and reorder
Then I have only one phrase of advice.
Patience Grasshopper, patience.
Stewart
At 10:09 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote:
Well, in fact, I have thought about canceling outright and just
going to a local supplier and walking out with some other acceptable
substitute machine. Problem is, according to
. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net
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Then I have only one phrase of advice.
Patience Grasshopper, patience.
Stewart
At 10:09 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote:
Well, in fact, I
Suffered through that when my wife's died on Thanksgiving and it took
till after Christmas for hers to arrive.
Guess whose she wanted to use all the time! :-)
That can be a real marriage breaker. :-)
Stewart
At 10:42 PM 12/15/2009, you wrote:
Ahhh... yes master :)
Truth is,
On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Michael Wosnick wrote:
Instead I have a Precision T7500 workstation that I neither want nor
ordered.
Why don't you just keep what you got? Looks like a fine PC.
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Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 1:23:53 AM
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Yes, you can boot from an external drive, but that's not what he's asking.
It's what he needs to do, but didn't state it.
With a loaner computer, there's no reason to bother to switch the hard drive
Michael Wosnick escribió:
With apologies for my lack of understanding, I'm not sure I see where this
conversation about external drives is taking me. What is really at issue is
whether or not I do a full install (be that on an external, internal, or
whatever drive) of all my programs for the
to be cloned or swapped into the new machine
where the system will not recognize anything.
Michael
From: b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es
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Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 1:43:55 PM
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Michael Wosnick
On Dec 14, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Michael Wosnick wrote:
In essence, my original question was to utilize an external drive of
sorts - at least external to the new machine I don't have yet. I was
going to use a brand new drive placed temporarily into the loaner
and the swap it into the new
Too true, Apple has to sue the pants off those making copies of their
hardware, MS has to make it as hard as possible to copy their software...in
the end of course it's just harder on the customer.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:11 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote:
On Dec 14, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Michael
In essence, my original question was to utilize an external drive of sorts - at
least external to the new machine I don't have yet. I was going to use a brand
new drive placed temporarily into the loaner and the swap it into the new
machine when it arrives. That was exactly my original
The problem is, even if you do install it externally, I doubt you have FW or
ESATA on that machine, USB isn't made to be used to run an OS on an external
drive.
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:08 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote:
In essence, my original question was to utilize an external drive
Yes, you can boot from an external drive, but that's not what he's asking.
It's what he needs to do, but didn't state it.
With a loaner computer, there's no reason to bother to switch the hard
drive when you can plug in an external, possibly bare drive for a week
or so until the right
With a Windows PC, can you boot from an external drive? If not, can you run programs from
an external drive?
I do this with my Mac, and run Windows inside VirtualBox, but don't usually use my
husband's PCs. If I plan to install the hard drive in the computer, I'll run it bare using
a drive
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Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Swapping Boot Drives
With a Windows PC, can you boot from an external drive? If not, can you
run programs from an external drive?
I do this with my Mac, and run Windows inside VirtualBox, but don't
usually
I've never known Dell or anyone else to invalidate its warranty because someone
opened the case of the big box. The whole idea of the PC is that it is
expandable by adding hardware in the expansion slots. I've never known a
computer manufacturer (except maybe Apple) that required that you
In principle, with modern PCs (say five years or so old or less?), the
motherboard ROM BIOS provides for booting from a (any) motherboard USB port. I
have never tried to install a working OS (Windows or otherwise) on an external
USB drive, but I have installed a drive image utility on a thumb
This may be a dumb question, but here goes. I ordered a new computer from
Dell and they shipped the wrong box to me. I am awaiting a replacement but
it may take a while given the season. I was told I could use the wrong box
(a Precision T7500 Workstation with a Xeon Processor) while I wait for the
You likely can get away with what you propose, if you are prepared to use the
CD disc that comes with the new machine (or downloaded files) to install the
drivers for the new hardware. There won't be any need to delete the old
drivers, although there may be some longer time taken to boot, as
In general, no. When you install an OS it senses all the hardware and
tries it's best to work with that specific stuff. Replacing something
with a lot of hardware - like a motherboard - usually requires
reinstalling the OS. Not always, but personally I've never had good
luck doing it. An awful lot
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