Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
Thanks Jennifer, I imagine this will take care of the issue... and must have been what I remember seeing something about. Not necessary with normal email servers but Google's seems to keep track of which mails were accessed ... and doesn't dish them out again ... even if they weren't removed from the server by the first access. I guess that is because no email is actually ever removed from Gmail unless you do it by deletion? db Jennifer Hiebert wrote: I may misunderstand you, but are you looking for the Gmail recent mode? See http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=47948 --Using POP on multiple clients or mobile devices Jennifer Hiebert On Sep 10, 2009, at 1:42 AM, db wrote: Yes... there is something going on... intentionally by design I think. And it keeps me from doing things I occasionally want to / need to do. If I knew what it was... that might be the first part of a fix/ workaround. db Paula Minor wrote: Now that you are all talking about this, I realized I've had problems with it too. I can send an email from my gmail acct to my gmail account all from Apple Mail with no problem. But if I send that message out and happen to check my mail on my laptop instead of the desk computer, I can no longer download it to my desk machine even tho the laptop is set to never remove messages from the server. And some msgs I've sent on my iPhone to myself never showed up. Im glad I'm not alone. Paula US/IN raven880atindy.net I'm now at the age where I've got to prove that I'm just as good as I never was.Rex Harrison * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
I may misunderstand you, but are you looking for the Gmail recent mode? See http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=47948 --Using POP on multiple clients or mobile devices Jennifer Hiebert On Sep 10, 2009, at 1:42 AM, db wrote: Yes... there is something going on... intentionally by design I think. And it keeps me from doing things I occasionally want to / need to do. If I knew what it was... that might be the first part of a fix/ workaround. db Paula Minor wrote: Now that you are all talking about this, I realized I've had problems with it too. I can send an email from my gmail acct to my gmail account all from Apple Mail with no problem. But if I send that message out and happen to check my mail on my laptop instead of the desk computer, I can no longer download it to my desk machine even tho the laptop is set to never remove messages from the server. And some msgs I've sent on my iPhone to myself never showed up. Im glad I'm not alone. Paula US/IN raven880atindy.net I'm now at the age where I've got to prove that I'm just as good as I never was.Rex Harrison * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:// www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
On Sep 9, 2009, at 8:26 PM, MrMike6by9 wrote: I guess I don't get it. I sent a msg to myself and it immediately appeared in my inbox with the from as me. And, of course, I have an outbound copy of that msg in my sent folder. Have you read through the email headers to see how it was routed? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
Well, I may not understand your problem, but I just sent an email from my gmail account to my gmail account and it came through with no problem. I frequently do this for web links/info that I want to be available on different computers. I also have a group that I email to from my gmail account and include my gmail address in that group and the emails always come through. What am I missing? Bill On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Gmail won't let you email a message to yourself for reasons of testing or forwarding / transferring from the webmail to a computer running a client that receives Gmail etc. Apparently it decides you already have that email so doesn't send it. Is there any way to defeat that ... turn that smart feature off... that anybody knows of? db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Bill * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
Pretty tricky, eh? For testing, I use a different account e.g. Yahoogmail works fine. Not something that has to be done often, fortunately. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: Gmail won't let you email a message to yourself for reasons of testing or forwarding / transferring from the webmail to a computer running a client that receives Gmail etc. Apparently it decides you already have that email so doesn't send it. Is there any way to defeat that ... turn that smart feature off... that anybody knows of? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
So, you can't send gmail to gmail with the same account? I have no trouble doing that. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty tricky, eh? For testing, I use a different account e.g. Yahoogmail works fine. Not something that has to be done often, fortunately. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: Gmail won't let you email a message to yourself for reasons of testing or forwarding / transferring from the webmail to a computer running a client that receives Gmail etc. Apparently it decides you already have that email so doesn't send it. Is there any way to defeat that ... turn that smart feature off... that anybody knows of? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- Bill * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
No I can't I can send it but I think what it does is it doesn't bother to send it externally or whatever so my external non-web based client can't poll for it and pick it up. What the problem is exactly is if I pick up my email from my PDA client email (SnapperMail) ... which is set to not delete any email that it picks up (only takes a copy), my computer's TBird email doesn't get any of the Gmail accts mail although it gets my other ATT.net's etc. mail. AND if I try to forward it from my PDA's Gmail, to my computer's Gmail it also never arrives on my computer's Thunderbird Mail. ( not sure of the earlier issue but I think this forward failure is the smart feature's non-doing) I remember reading something about Gmail's smart feature somebody else complaining about it and now it turns out to be a problem for me that I would like to eliminate ... if I knew how. db Bill wrote: So, you can't send gmail to gmail with the same account? I have no trouble doing that. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty tricky, eh? For testing, I use a different account e.g. Yahoogmail works fine. Not something that has to be done often, fortunately. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, dbdb...@att.net wrote: Gmail won't let you email a message to yourself for reasons of testing or forwarding / transferring from the webmail to a computer running a client that receives Gmail etc. Apparently it decides you already have that email so doesn't send it. Is there any way to defeat that ... turn that smart feature off... that anybody knows of? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
The same for me. If I start a C-Guys email, it won't show up until someone replies to the message. Makes me doubt whether it ever went out... It would be nice to be able to get rid of this feature Richard P. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Gmail won't let you email a message to yourself for reasons of testing or forwarding / transferring from the webmail to a computer running a client that receives Gmail etc. Apparently it decides you already have that email so doesn't send it. Is there any way to defeat that ... turn that smart feature off... that anybody knows of? db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:44 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: No I can't I can send it but I think what it does is it doesn't bother to send it externally or whatever so my external non-web based client can't poll for it and pick it up. What the problem is exactly is if I pick up my email from my PDA client email (SnapperMail) ... which is set to not delete any email that it picks up (only takes a copy), my computer's TBird email doesn't get any of the Gmail accts mail although it gets my other ATT.net's etc. mail. AND if I try to forward it from my PDA's Gmail, to my computer's Gmail it also never arrives on my computer's Thunderbird Mail. ( not sure of the earlier issue but I think this forward failure is the smart feature's non-doing) I remember reading something about Gmail's smart feature somebody else complaining about it and now it turns out to be a problem for me that I would like to eliminate ... if I knew how. Are you using POP or iMap for Thunderbird? I had a message I sent from Thunderbird return to both versions of that account on Tbird. Perhaps you need a second account that will forward your test messages back to the main one. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
This feature was bought home for me when I noticed a problem with mail being forwarded from a webhost. It's been over a year so I don't remember the details. But I kept sending myself emails and they wouldn't show up. Tech support would log in and said they showed up fine for them. Eventually I figured it out and did a test with some other account - Yahoo, maybe - and sure enough, it worked fine! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
What exactly is the feature? How does it work? Maybe if we understood that we could find a solution... It seems to recognize its own user's email and alter its behavior. Thinks its helping you but its not... db Richard P. wrote: The same for me. If I start a C-Guys email, it won't show up until someone replies to the message. Makes me doubt whether it ever went out... It would be nice to be able to get rid of this feature Richard P. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Gmail won't let you email a message to yourself for reasons of testing or forwarding / transferring from the webmail to a computer running a client that receives Gmail etc. Apparently it decides you already have that email so doesn't send it. Is there any way to defeat that ... turn that smart feature off... that anybody knows of? db * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
POP Gmail accounts in Tbird But it's on the Gmail server that the phenomenon is happening. my forwarded gmails never get sent to Tbird from Gmail because as far as the server is concerned it is sending to itself and it decides that makes no sense and doesn't bother or something... Slightly different variant that someone just mentioned where Gmail notices that he is sending to a listserve so when the list redistributes the post back to the sender, it notices and doesn't show it in the inbox thus denying the sender knowledge of if and when his post hit the list. db John Duncan Yoyo wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:44 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: No I can't I can send it but I think what it does is it doesn't bother to send it externally or whatever so my external non-web based client can't poll for it and pick it up. What the problem is exactly is if I pick up my email from my PDA client email (SnapperMail) ... which is set to not delete any email that it picks up (only takes a copy), my computer's TBird email doesn't get any of the Gmail accts mail although it gets my other ATT.net's etc. mail. AND if I try to forward it from my PDA's Gmail, to my computer's Gmail it also never arrives on my computer's Thunderbird Mail. ( not sure of the earlier issue but I think this forward failure is the smart feature's non-doing) I remember reading something about Gmail's smart feature somebody else complaining about it and now it turns out to be a problem for me that I would like to eliminate ... if I knew how. Are you using POP or iMap for Thunderbird? I had a message I sent from Thunderbird return to both versions of that account on Tbird. Perhaps you need a second account that will forward your test messages back to the main one. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
From: Richard P. richs...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Gmail question... The same for me. If I start a C-Guys email, it won't show up until someone replies to the message. Makes me doubt whether it ever went out... It would be nice to be able to get rid of this feature Richard P. On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: Gmail won't let you email a message to yourself for reasons of testing or forwarding / transferring from the webmail to a computer running a client that receives Gmail etc. Apparently it decides you already have that email so doesn't send it. Is there any way to defeat that ... turn that smart feature off... that anybody knows of? db I guess I don't get it. I sent a msg to myself and it immediately appeared in my inbox with the from as me. And, of course, I have an outbound copy of that msg in my sent folder. - - - No man is exempt from saying silly things; the mischief is to say them deliberately. - Michel de Montaigne * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 7:30 PM, db db...@att.net wrote: POP Gmail accounts in Tbird But it's on the Gmail server that the phenomenon is happening. my forwarded gmails never get sent to Tbird from Gmail because as far as the server is concerned it is sending to itself and it decides that makes no sense and doesn't bother or something... Slightly different variant that someone just mentioned where Gmail notices that he is sending to a listserve so when the list redistributes the post back to the sender, it notices and doesn't show it in the inbox thus denying the sender knowledge of if and when his post hit the list. It did this for a while for me and then it started to behave. I don't know that I did something to fix it or not. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
Now that you are all talking about this, I realized I've had problems with it too. I can send an email from my gmail acct to my gmail account all from Apple Mail with no problem. But if I send that message out and happen to check my mail on my laptop instead of the desk computer, I can no longer download it to my desk machine even tho the laptop is set to never remove messages from the server. And some msgs I've sent on my iPhone to myself never showed up. Im glad I'm not alone. Paula US/IN raven880atindy.net I'm now at the age where I've got to prove that I'm just as good as I never was.Rex Harrison * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Gmail question...
Yes... there is something going on... intentionally by design I think. And it keeps me from doing things I occasionally want to / need to do. If I knew what it was... that might be the first part of a fix/ workaround. db Paula Minor wrote: Now that you are all talking about this, I realized I've had problems with it too. I can send an email from my gmail acct to my gmail account all from Apple Mail with no problem. But if I send that message out and happen to check my mail on my laptop instead of the desk computer, I can no longer download it to my desk machine even tho the laptop is set to never remove messages from the server. And some msgs I've sent on my iPhone to myself never showed up. Im glad I'm not alone. Paula US/IN raven880atindy.net I'm now at the age where I've got to prove that I'm just as good as I never was.Rex Harrison * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
