Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
Vista is not so bad unless you want to run legacy software.. Of course I want to run legacy software. Workflows have been developed over many years, sometimes decades. I don't want some punk programmer telling me I have to re-engineer my business.

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Does this sound like a good plan? Get a new fast Vista machine because that is what is out there. Load XP on a virtual machine running under Vista to handle legacy software. Of course I want to run legacy software. Workflows have been developed over many years, sometimes decades. I don't

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
Vista is not so bad unless you want to run legacy software.. Of course I want to run legacy software. Workflows have been developed over many years, sometimes decades. I don't want some punk programmer telling me I have to re-engineer my business. Again, an overstatement (the original, not

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
Does this sound like a good plan? Get a new fast Vista machine because that is what is out there. Load XP on a virtual machine running under Vista to handle legacy software. Most users won't need to. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Fred Holmes
Can that virtual folder be readily backed up? I.e., is the location of the virtual folder obvious? Or does vista provide a new backup program that can be readily used to back them up? Fred Holmes At 09:54 AM 8/11/2008, Chris Dunford wrote: For the most part, the ones that have problems are

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread mike
You still run software from OS 8 on your mac os x machine? On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 6:20 AM, Tom Piwowar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vista is not so bad unless you want to run legacy software.. Of course I want to run legacy software. Workflows have been developed over many years, sometimes

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread David K Watson
If Tom were to use virtualization, he'd be better off doing it on a Mac or Linux machine, because virtualization is notoriously buggy and runs with too much overhead on Vista. However, if he is running the legacy software as one of his primary applications, he would be adding a layer of

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
Can that virtual folder be readily backed up? I.e., is the location of the virtual folder obvious? Or does vista provide a new backup program that can be readily used to back them up? E.g., you can't write to Program Files any more, but a lot of old programs try to. For those, Vista puts

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Fred Holmes
At 12:46 PM 8/11/2008, David K Watson wrote: http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/1132588.html California state computers can't handle pay cut, controller says, It turns out that the California payroll system is a legacy COBOL system being held together with spit and baling wire. The article is

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
You still run software from OS 8 on your mac os x machine? Look at my email headers. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
You still run software from OS 8 on your mac os x machine? Look at my email headers. I think the point was, can you run ALL of your OS 8 stuff? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
I think the point was, can you run ALL of your OS 8 stuff? Why would I want to do that? I'm not running a museum here. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread mike
Just a cupboard with some old figurines. I can't think of any apps that I miss so much I'd run in an emu just to keep active after ten years of being out of circulation on mac or windows. BTW, no offense here if Gwen is being held captive by tiny trolls but...what happened to her? She seemed

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Chris Dunford
I think the point was, can you run ALL of your OS 8 stuff? Why would I want to do that? I'm not running a museum here. So, Vista is useless because I have to run legacy software. OS X is fine because I'm not running a museum. OK, that makes sense.

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-11 Thread Tom Piwowar
OK, that makes sense. Thank you. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ **

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-10 Thread Brian Jones
Each new release of Windows requires more RAM and horse power. I recommend as a minimum: A dual core processor and 2GB RAM (if you want to do more than run a single program). Vista is not so bad unless you want to run legacy software.. much better security, and several new features that I really

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-09 Thread Roger D. Parish
At 12:56 AM -0400 8/9/08, Eric S. Sande wrote: New computer - VISTA - and I feel like I am living in the dark ages. The make and model of the computer and the version of Vista would be helpful information. As would the amount of RAM installed. The quickest and easiest cure for sluggish

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
As would the amount of RAM installed. The quickest and easiest cure for sluggish computers is usually more RAM. (Actually the best cure is a better operating system.) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-09 Thread Tom Piwowar
I'm so frustrated with my new computer that I could scream. I know you must talk about this all the time. New computer - VISTA - and I feel like I am living in the dark ages. Everything takes forever to do and I get a lot of (not responding ) at the top of the screen while the computer is

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-09 Thread Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A.
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Piwowar Sent: 08/09/2008 1:33 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA As would the amount of RAM installed. The quickest and easiest cure for sluggish computers is usually more RAM. (Actually the best cure is a better operating

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-09 Thread Chris Dunford
Actually, 32 bit Vista doesn't get better with more RAM; 64 bit does. How do you figure that? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-09 Thread mike
32 bit can only address 3 gigs of ram for the OS. Mike On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Actually, 32 bit Vista doesn't get better with more RAM; 64 bit does. How do you figure that?

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-09 Thread Chris Dunford
Actually, 32 bit Vista doesn't get better with more RAM; 64 bit does. How do you figure that? 32 bit can only address 3 gigs of ram for the OS. Well, that's an oversimplification, but even so it's not the same as saying that 32-bit Vista doesn't get better with more RAM. Vista with 2 or 3

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-09 Thread mike
I was over simplifying what he meant, not explaining what he said. Mike On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Chris Dunford [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Actually, 32 bit Vista doesn't get better with more RAM; 64 bit does. How do you figure that? 32 bit can only address 3 gigs of ram for the

Re: [CGUYS] please help with VISTA

2008-08-08 Thread Eric S. Sande
New computer - VISTA - and I feel like I am living in the dark ages. The make and model of the computer and the version of Vista would be helpful information. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,