Re: self-rule and liberty

2003-07-28 Thread Malla Pollack
, Univ. of Oregon, Law 541-346-1599 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: msellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:41 PM Subject: Re: self-rule and liberty Defining constitutional terms can be very helpful in working out which values are more

Re: self-rule and liberty

2003-07-27 Thread msellers
Defining constitutional terms can be very helpful in working out which values are more fundamental, and therefore underly others in constitutional discourse. Self-rule is an important idea, that deserves careful examination. The preamble to the U.S. Constitution lists securing the blessings of

Re: self-rule

2003-07-24 Thread Robert Justin Lipkin
To say that "self-rule" potentially serves as a concept unifying individual self-rule and collective self-rule does not in any way imply that there are no differences in how these concepts work. As a unifying concept "self-rule" suggests important similarities not identities. Different

Re: self-rule

2003-07-24 Thread msellers
Bobby has raised exactly the sort of question that this list exists to discuss: What purposes does (or ought) the U.S. Constitution exist to serve? and what vocabulary best captures those purposes? Collective self-rule may well be useful description of what the U.S. (and other) constitutions

Re: self-rule

2003-07-24 Thread Robert Justin Lipkin
The question of explaining "the sense in which overridden minorities still enjoy" freedom is endemic to any theory of democracy/republicanism/liberty or even the "absence of internal domination." Whenever less than a unanimous vote is concerned, how can the losers be described as engaging in