[Callers] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Keith Tuxhorn via Contra Callers
Joe, I only included the beginner session comparison to illustrate my recommended approach to the callers session re: indexing. Wasn't pushing you into new discussion territory. And I still love having my dances written on cards, and carrying my box of 'em to dances. I doubt if I'll ever

[Callers] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Michael Dyck via Contra Callers
On 2023-01-11 10:42 p.m., Joe Harrington via Contra Callers wrote: [Thanks] for the idea of using spiral-bound cards rather than drilling my own. Now I might actually do it... Isaac, try Staples: [...] Note that for edge-notched cards, you need a fairly sturdy card stock to survive

[Callers] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Joe Harrington via Contra Callers
Wow! This has been an amazing thread. Many thanks! (And I look forward to further replies!) Anyone care to compare the computer programs? Are there more than Colin's and Will's, and has anyone tried both of those? I know both Colin and Will are here, so we can stick to facts about what they do

[Callers] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Keith Tuxhorn via Contra Callers
First off--Gregory Frock, where do you live that you're calling 30-40 dances a year? And are you the only caller in the area? Joe-- There are theories in the contra world about how long a beginners session should be before the dance. Some believe that going in depth is the way to go, teaching

[Callers] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Amy Cann via Contra Callers
As someone who *ran* a card sorter for IBM as my summer job working through college, I'm simultaneously laughing and shuddering. My cards are the standard white kind - except for the ones I wrote or rejiggered, they're on cream colored stock Beckets are blue paper and double-progressions are

[Callers] Re: [External] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Amy Wimmer via Contra Callers
My filing system is probably archaic. I have 4 main categories: simple, smooth, medium, and percussive. Then I have several rarely used categories: 3 face 3, multiple progressions, circles, mixers, etc. I keep them in separate, alphabetized sections in my box. Top right corner of each card says

[Callers] Re: [External] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Isaac Banner via Contra Callers
Now I'm mostly just grumpy because I got all excited about Edge-notched Cards and spent a good 30-45 minutes frustratingly discovering there's nowhere to get these for a reasonable cost/scale anymore... Tossing onto the rest of the conversation, I have 9 categories in my box but am broadly only

[Callers] Re: [External] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers
Angela I love the idea of the colored stickers on the top. That sounds so colorful and enticing. When I started calling and building a collection of dances, I did a similar sorting by difficulty - Easy, Medium, Complex. And mostly, it works. However, My definition of difficulty changes in

[Callers] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Angela DeCarlis via Contra Callers
I love that Joe remembered the edge-notched sorting system I told him about and also really love Jeff's suggestion of getting spiral-bound cards and removing the spiral! I've drilled holes in index cards before as Joe described, but the results weren't clean. *I don't remember who I first heard

[Callers] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Michael Dyck via Contra Callers
On 2023-01-11 12:44 a.m., Joe Harrington via Contra Callers wrote: I heard recently (I believe from Angela DeCarlis) of a mechanical sorting system based on the Jacquard loom concept that became the Hollerith punched card system.  I've never seen it in use.  Does anyone do this? See

[Callers] Re: Marking dance cards to highlight certain moments???

2023-01-11 Thread The Witful Turnip via Contra Callers
Hi Emily, Like Tncontracaller, I make notations of potential trouble spots in a dance and put asterix beside the spots with a note at the bottom. Depending on the dance, I might have *, **, or even *** spots where I have a note. I often put a note of (prog) if the progression is somewhere in

[Callers] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Jeff Kaufman via Contra Callers
This is more geeking than actually useful, but the hole-sorting system you're describing is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge-notched_card You could buy spiral-bound index cards and remove the spiral: https://www.staples.com/oxford-spiral-index-cards-3-x-5-50-cards-white-40282/product_26031 This

[Callers] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Gregory Frock via Contra Callers
Hi Joe, The most important thing is to have a sorting system that allows you to find a dance fast when you need it. The key elements of this system would thus be based on how one programs and how frequently one calls. For example, a caller who programs in advance and calls one dance per quarter

[Callers] Re: mechanical sorting systems

2023-01-11 Thread Diane Silver via Contra Callers
This might be one of the 100 replies you were trying to avoid, rather than the summary you are looking for, but here's what I do: I categorize my dances by "signature move" -- hey for four dances, down-the-halls, petronella dances, stars, roll-aways, wavy lines (subdivided into short waves,