Hi Joe,

The most important thing is to have a sorting system that allows you to
find a dance fast when you need it. The key elements of this system would
thus be based on how one programs and how frequently one calls. For
example, a caller who programs in advance and calls one dance per quarter
pretty much does not need to worry about a sorting system. Each dance
program can be carefully hand crafted with main dances and alternates
should the dances turn out to be particularly new or experienced in a given
night. Sorting becomes more important for callers who call frequently and
program more ad-hoc. I call about 30-40 dances per year, and lean toward
the ad-hoc programming approach, tempered by a standard slotting framework
I use that governs. So, being able to just look through a short subset of
dances for a particular slot is important for me to do on the fly. So,
"slot" is my first organizational criteria. After that, I generally use
Diane's hook categorization, but also consider the opening figures and
whether a dance works better for warm or cold weather (important
consideration for my home hall, which is not climate controlled).

I can detail my programming framework process, but this is long enough, I
think.

Hope this provides some additional insight.

Best,

Greg











On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 12:44 AM Joe Harrington via Contra Callers <
contracallers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> The short version of this post is, how should I organize my dances?  But,
> I'm sure if I ask that, the thread will have 100 replies and lots of
> confusion.  My search of the list archives and web were surprisingly spotty
> on this question, with lots of anecdotes and no summary or comparison.  And
> I'm not just asking for myself. While I've got a whopping 15 evenings of
> dance calling under my belt, I'm being called on to train some students to
> call for our college club, and they're asking the same question.
>
> So, I'm looking for one or more summaries from those wiser than I (ok, low
> bar!) of the kinds of systems for cards.  This might better be asked as,
> what are the different approaches to programming dances, and what
> organizing systems make each of those easier?
>
> In a workshop of his last summer, Bob Isaacs related his system of colored
> cards for easy, hard, bouncy, flowy, sweetheart, and divorce-reconcile
> dances (I think those were the categories). Call easy dances first, call a
> sweetheart right after the break when they're most likely to dance with the
> person they came with. Save hard for festivals.  Give them variety.
>
> But, I've wanted more categories, and what about finding the bouncy
> sweethearts?  I'm really busy, so the idea of re-copying a hundred or more
> cards to make a new system doesn't thrill me, if I don't like my initial
> system. Maybe I'll get a database system to select dances with, and then
> have a set of alphabetized printed cards for the actual calling, though
> what if I'm wrong and need to change my program, as has already happened a
> few times when a ton of newbies shows up?  I'm interested in hearing about
> anything particularly clever or efficient, especially if it doesn't involve
> a computer or tablet.
>
> A comparison of the different computer systems would also be welcome.  I'm
> aware of programs by Will Loving and Colin Hume.  I asked on one Facebook
> group for a comparison of these but got no response.  Is the Caller's Box
> up to real-time dance selection at an event? That presumes wi-fi, of
> course, or at least cell signal.
>
> I'll toss in one amusing and possibly workable paper system, for a
> dedicated and extremely nerdy caller, which might be me...
>
> I heard recently (I believe from Angela DeCarlis) of a mechanical sorting
> system based on the Jacquard loom concept that became the Hollerith punched
> card system.  I've never seen it in use.  Does anyone do this?
>
> Figure out the ten or so characteristics you might want to sort on.  For
> example, easy, medium, hard, bouncy, flowy, separates partners, sweetheart
> (keeps partners together), etc.  Take a stack of cards and drill holes near
> the bottom edge, one per characteristic (you can drill a stack of cards if
> you sandwich them between wood and clamp them).  Now, on a given card,
> punch out the rest of the paper between the hole and the edge of the card
> for each hole the card DOESN'T match.  So, for an easy dance, you'd punch
> out the rest of the paper for the medium and hard holes (among others), but
> leave the easy hole intact.  If you make a mistake, just fold a piece of
> tape over the gap above the hole to close the gap.
>
> Now, when you want to look at your easy, flowy, sweetheart dances, flip
> the stack so the holes are up, push a pencil or knitting needle through the
> "easy" hole and lift. Then, in the ones you pulled, push through the flowy
> hole and lift, and finally for that set poke through the sweetheart hole
> and lift.  Those are the easy, flowy, sweetheart dances.  If you want the
> medium or hard dances that are bouncy and that separate partners, you pull
> first the medium and then the hard dances, combine them, and then pull the
> bouncies from that set and the separators from that third pull.  And so on.
>
> Good hole alignment and clean punching would matter, I think.  If you are
> a real dance sorting fanatic, you could get like 30 holes around the card
> edges, but that would limit the writing space.
>
> I predict this will be all the rage, post-apocalypse...at least until we
> run out of cards. ;-)
>
> --jh--
> Joe Harrington
> Organizer, Greater Orlando Contra Dance
> Faculty Advisor, Contra Knights, the UCF contra dancing club
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