Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gregory K. Meyer wrote on Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 08:36:17PM -0500 : > > > > > or the original KDM > > > > urpmi kdm > IIRCurpmi kdebase-kdm It would have worked just fine: [todd@fiji ~]$ urpmq kdm mdkkdm|kdebase-kdm [todd@fiji ~]$ sudo urpmi kdm To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed (40 MB): gtk+mdk-0.1.6-14mdk.i586 kdebase-3.1-24mdk.i586 kdebase-kdm-3.1-24mdk.i586 kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-24mdk.i586 mdk-menu-messages-9.1-0.2mdk.i586 menu-2.1.5-115mdk.i586 Is this OK? (Y/n) n Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com cat /boot/vmlinuz > /dev/dsp #for great justice Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SEBGlp7v05cW2woRAn2gAKCC2wMmF5mCJ2nKS/imjDgQbRpc8ACcCjTQ 0aNjh5l7h9VCnFHlZfHIEeY= =xF2k -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
--- On Sat 02/08, Salane King < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: Salane King [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 00:56:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, Salane King wrote: > On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote: > > Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit : > > > >I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have > > > >DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first > > > > > > > > >before you answer foolishly. > > > > > > No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all. And it was you > > > who answered foolishly. > > > > > > Gregory K. Meyer > > > > Yep, and mister salane please, before complaining next, read the mailing > > list archive with your favorite find tool, the answers are all there for > > that recent problem... > > to quote what i was disturbed at > > >>this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot > >>/var/log/messages that may be pertanant > > > >No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package. > > Too many times there have been many times that the answer for problems have > been "oh it works here" or "No it is not broken" something to that order. > This list needs less of this type of condensation. However my appolgies are > in order. So to get that out of the way. We need to try to help the > frustrated people with problems they need help with, realizing that at that > point in time they have understandably short fuses. We should never > trivialize peoples problems. That is why linux faces such an uphill battle > with becoming a Desktop fact unstead of a want to be. > > I was aware of the mdkkdm problem however until 14mdk I had no problems. > except for the past 3 or for upgrades nothing that i put in > /etc/sysconfig/desktop had any effect and i had even forgot i had changed > them. For they didn't have any effect! only after checking a few thing that > I realized what happened. There have been many times that upgrades do break > things and nothing helps except reinstalling the distro especially when I > upgrade many things. I appriciate the help by the way. I am glad that with > both your help that didn't happen this time. Of course being tired now of fighting this, but after reinstalling 14 and changing the /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of course as with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe. Only gdm works to login to kde. As i said i am tired of fighting this now. gdm is my safe bet until later in the long beta cycle or after i reinstall again to get all of the conf files right. It's not worth continuing the prior conversation, so I'll leave it alone. Misunderstandings happen and people overreact. When I get to the point you are at now, I do a clean install. Of course, I keeo a local mirror of the entire Cooker tree, so I get al the updates at the sme time so I'm not sure how that solution works for you if you only have the beta3 iso's Gregory K. Meyer ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
>> Of course being tired now of fighting this, but after reinstalling 14 and >> changing the /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of course as >> with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe. Only gdm works to >> login to kde. As i said i am tired of fighting this now. gdm is my safe bet >> until later in the long beta cycle or after i reinstall again to get all of >> the conf files right. >> >Did you try to install kdebase-kdm[ Attachment (0.19KB) ] Isn't that the suggestion that started the shole flame war. Gregory K. Meyer ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:15 am, Bongani Hlope wrote: > On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 00:56:28 -0500 > > Salane King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, Salane King wrote: > > > On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote: > > > > Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit : > > > > > >I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have > > > > > >DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate > > > > > > first > > > > > Of course being tired now of fighting this, but after reinstalling 14 > > and changing the /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of > > course as with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe. > > Only gdm works to login to kde. As i said i am tired of fighting this > > now. gdm is my safe bet until later in the long beta cycle or after i > > reinstall again to get all of the conf files right. > > Did you try to install kdebase-kdm yep
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 00:56:28 -0500 Salane King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, Salane King wrote: > > On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote: > > > Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit : > > > > >I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have > > > > >DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first > Of course being tired now of fighting this, but after reinstalling 14 and > changing the /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of course as > with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe. Only gdm works to > login to kde. As i said i am tired of fighting this now. gdm is my safe bet > until later in the long beta cycle or after i reinstall again to get all of > the conf files right. > > Did you try to install kdebase-kdm msg90627/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, Salane King wrote: > On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote: > > Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit : > > > >I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have > > > >DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first > > > > > > > > >before you answer foolishly. > > > > > > No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all. And it was you > > > who answered foolishly. > > > > > > Gregory K. Meyer > > > > Yep, and mister salane please, before complaining next, read the mailing > > list archive with your favorite find tool, the answers are all there for > > that recent problem... > > to quote what i was disturbed at > > >>this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot > >>/var/log/messages that may be pertanant > > > >No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package. > > Too many times there have been many times that the answer for problems have > been "oh it works here" or "No it is not broken" something to that order. > This list needs less of this type of condensation. However my appolgies are > in order. So to get that out of the way. We need to try to help the > frustrated people with problems they need help with, realizing that at that > point in time they have understandably short fuses. We should never > trivialize peoples problems. That is why linux faces such an uphill battle > with becoming a Desktop fact unstead of a want to be. > > I was aware of the mdkkdm problem however until 14mdk I had no problems. > except for the past 3 or for upgrades nothing that i put in > /etc/sysconfig/desktop had any effect and i had even forgot i had changed > them. For they didn't have any effect! only after checking a few thing that > I realized what happened. There have been many times that upgrades do break > things and nothing helps except reinstalling the distro especially when I > upgrade many things. I appriciate the help by the way. I am glad that with > both your help that didn't happen this time. Of course being tired now of fighting this, but after reinstalling 14 and changing the /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of course as with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe. Only gdm works to login to kde. As i said i am tired of fighting this now. gdm is my safe bet until later in the long beta cycle or after i reinstall again to get all of the conf files right.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote: > Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit : > > >I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have > > >DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first > > > > > > >before you answer foolishly. > > > > No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all. And it was you who > > answered foolishly. > > > > Gregory K. Meyer > > Yep, and mister salane please, before complaining next, read the mailing > list archive with your favorite find tool, the answers are all there for > that recent problem... to quote what i was disturbed at >>this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot >>/var/log/messages that may be pertanant >No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package. Too many times there have been many times that the answer for problems have been "oh it works here" or "No it is not broken" something to that order. This list needs less of this type of condensation. However my appolgies are in order. So to get that out of the way. We need to try to help the frustrated people with problems they need help with, realizing that at that point in time they have understandably short fuses. We should never trivialize peoples problems. That is why linux faces such an uphill battle with becoming a Desktop fact unstead of a want to be. I was aware of the mdkkdm problem however until 14mdk I had no problems. except for the past 3 or for upgrades nothing that i put in /etc/sysconfig/desktop had any effect and i had even forgot i had changed them. For they didn't have any effect! only after checking a few thing that I realized what happened. There have been many times that upgrades do break things and nothing helps except reinstalling the distro especially when I upgrade many things. I appriciate the help by the way. I am glad that with both your help that didn't happen this time.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
On Friday 07 February 2003 08:55 pm, Gregory K. Meyer wrote: > >cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop > >DISPLAYMANAGER=kde > > Try > DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm > > > ___ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! Shouldn't mdkkdm be a dep of kdelibs or is editing /etc/sysconfig/desktop only meant for the experts or for a drakxtool which takes care of the dependancy?
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit : > >I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have > >DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first > > >before you answer foolishly. > > No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all. And it was you who > answered foolishly. > > Gregory K. Meyer > Yep, and mister salane please, before complaining next, read the mailing list archive with your favorite find tool, the answers are all there for that recent problem... -- Pascal __ Running 17:36, 6 users, load average: 0.20, 0.66, 0.72 (gcc version 3.2.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2.1-4mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.21pre4-1mdkenterprise
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
>I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have >DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first >before you >answer foolishly. No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all. And it was you who answered foolishly. Gregory K. Meyer ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
>cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop >DISPLAYMANAGER=kde Try DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
On Friday 07 February 2003 08:30 pm, Pascal wrote: > Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:26, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit : > > >this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot > > >/var/log/messages that may be pertanant > > > > No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package. > > > > Try the new Mandrake KDM > > > > urpmi mdkkdm > > > > or the original KDM > > > > urpmi kdm > > IIRCurpmi kdebase-kdm > > > Gregory K. Meyer > > > > ___ > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > > The most personalized portal on the Web! rpm -qa|grep kdebase kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-21mdk kdebase-3.1-21mdk kdebase-servicemenu-1.0-4mdk kdebase-kdm-3.1-21mdk cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop DISPLAYMANAGER=kde
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
On Friday 07 February 2003 08:26 pm, Gregory K. Meyer wrote: > >this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot > >/var/log/messages that may be pertanant > > No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package. > > Try the new Mandrake KDM > > urpmi mdkkdm > > or the original KDM > > urpmi kdm > > Gregory K. Meyer > > ___ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first before you answer foolishly.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
> > or the original KDM > > urpmi kdm IIRCurpmi kdebase-kdm Thank you for correcting this mindless mistake that I made. ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:26, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit : > >this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot > >/var/log/messages that may be pertanant > > No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package. > > Try the new Mandrake KDM > > urpmi mdkkdm > > or the original KDM > > urpmi kdm IIRCurpmi kdebase-kdm > > Gregory K. Meyer > > ___ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web!