Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-10 Thread Todd Lyons
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Gregory K. Meyer wrote on Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 08:36:17PM -0500 :
 
 
  or the original KDM
 
  urpmi kdm
 IIRCurpmi kdebase-kdm

It would have worked just fine:

[todd@fiji ~]$ urpmq kdm
mdkkdm|kdebase-kdm
[todd@fiji ~]$ sudo urpmi kdm
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be
installed (40 MB):
gtk+mdk-0.1.6-14mdk.i586
kdebase-3.1-24mdk.i586
kdebase-kdm-3.1-24mdk.i586
kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-24mdk.i586
mdk-menu-messages-9.1-0.2mdk.i586
menu-2.1.5-115mdk.i586
Is this OK? (Y/n) n

Blue skies...   Todd
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-08 Thread Salane King
On Saturday 08 February 2003 01:15 am, Bongani Hlope wrote:
 On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 00:56:28 -0500

 Salane King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, Salane King wrote:
   On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote:
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit :
 I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have
 DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate
  first

 snip

  Of course being tired now of fighting this, but  after reinstalling 14
  and changing the  /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of
  course as with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe.
  Only gdm works to login to kde.   As i said i am tired of fighting this
  now. gdm is my safe bet until later in the long beta cycle or after i
  reinstall again to get all of the conf files right.

 Did you try to install kdebase-kdm
yep




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-08 Thread Gregory K. Meyer


snip

 Of course being tired now of fighting this, but  after reinstalling 14 and 
 changing the  /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of course as 
 with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe. Only gdm works to 
 login to kde.   As i said i am tired of fighting this now. gdm is my safe bet 
 until later in the long beta cycle or after i reinstall again to get all of 
 the conf files right.
 
 
Did you try to install kdebase-kdm[ Attachment  (0.19KB) ]

Isn't that the suggestion that started the shole flame war.

Gregory K. Meyer

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-08 Thread Gregory K. Meyer

 --- On Sat 02/08, Salane King  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
From: Salane King [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 00:56:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, Salane King wrote:
 On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote:
  Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit :
   I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have
   DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first
   
before you answer foolishly.
  
   No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all.  And it was you
   who answered foolishly.
  
   Gregory K. Meyer
 
  Yep, and mister salane please, before complaining next, read the mailing
  list archive with your favorite find tool, the answers are all there for
  that recent problem...

 to quote what i was disturbed at

 this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot
 /var/log/messages that may be pertanant
 
 No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package.

 Too many times there have been many times that the answer for problems have
 been oh it works here or No it is not broken something to that order.
 This list needs less of this type of condensation. However my appolgies are
 in order. So to get that out of the way. We need to try to help the
 frustrated people with problems they need help with, realizing that at that
 point in time they have understandably short fuses. We should never
 trivialize peoples problems. That is why linux faces such an uphill battle
 with becoming a Desktop fact unstead of a want to be.

  I was aware of the mdkkdm problem however until 14mdk I had no problems.
 except for the past 3 or for upgrades nothing that i put in
 /etc/sysconfig/desktop had any effect and i had even forgot i had changed
 them. For they didn't have any effect! only after checking a few thing that
 I realized what happened. There have been many times that upgrades do break
 things and nothing helps except reinstalling the distro especially when I
 upgrade many  things. I appriciate the help by the way. I am glad that with
 both your help that didn't happen this time.

Of course being tired now of fighting this, but  after reinstalling 14 and 
changing the  /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of course as 
with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe. Only gdm works to 
login to kde.   As i said i am tired of fighting this now. gdm is my safe bet 
until later in the long beta cycle or after i reinstall again to get all of 
the conf files right.

It's not worth continuing the prior conversation, so I'll leave it alone.  
Misunderstandings happen and people overreact.

When I get to the point you are at now, I do a clean install.  Of course, I keeo a 
local mirror of the entire Cooker tree, so I get al the updates at the sme time so I'm 
not sure how that solution works for you if you only have the beta3 iso's

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Pascal
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:26, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit :
 this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot
 /var/log/messages that may be pertanant

 No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package.

 Try the new Mandrake KDM

 urpmi mdkkdm

 or the original KDM

 urpmi kdm

IIRCurpmi kdebase-kdm


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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Gregory K. Meyer


 or the original KDM

 urpmi kdm

IIRCurpmi kdebase-kdm

Thank you for correcting this mindless mistake that I made.



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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Salane King
On Friday 07 February 2003 08:26 pm, Gregory K. Meyer wrote:
 this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot
 /var/log/messages that may be pertanant

 No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package.

 Try the new Mandrake KDM

 urpmi mdkkdm

 or the original KDM

 urpmi kdm

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I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have 
DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first before 
you answer foolishly.




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Salane King
On Friday 07 February 2003 08:30 pm, Pascal wrote:
 Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:26, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit :
  this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot
  /var/log/messages that may be pertanant
 
  No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package.
 
  Try the new Mandrake KDM
 
  urpmi mdkkdm
 
  or the original KDM
 
  urpmi kdm

 IIRCurpmi kdebase-kdm

  Gregory K. Meyer
 
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rpm -qa|grep kdebase
kdebase-nsplugins-3.1-21mdk
kdebase-3.1-21mdk
kdebase-servicemenu-1.0-4mdk
kdebase-kdm-3.1-21mdk

cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
DISPLAYMANAGER=kde






Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Gregory K. Meyer


cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
DISPLAYMANAGER=kde

Try 
DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm


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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Gregory K. Meyer


I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have 
DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first before you 
answer foolishly.

No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all.  And it was you who answered 
foolishly.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Pascal
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit :
 I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have
 DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first
  before you answer foolishly.

 No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all.  And it was you who
 answered foolishly.

 Gregory K. Meyer


Yep, and mister salane please, before complaining next, read the mailing list 
archive with your favorite find tool, the answers are all there for that 
recent problem...

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Salane King
On Friday 07 February 2003 08:55 pm, Gregory K. Meyer wrote:
 cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop
 DISPLAYMANAGER=kde

 Try
 DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm


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Shouldn't mdkkdm  be a dep of kdelibs or is editing /etc/sysconfig/desktop 
only meant for the experts or for a drakxtool which takes care of the 
dependancy?




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Salane King
On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote:
 Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit :
  I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have
  DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first
  
   before you answer foolishly.
 
  No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all.  And it was you who
  answered foolishly.
 
  Gregory K. Meyer

 Yep, and mister salane please, before complaining next, read the mailing
 list archive with your favorite find tool, the answers are all there for
 that recent problem...

to quote what i was disturbed at

this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot
/var/log/messages that may be pertanant

No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package.  

Too many times there have been many times that the answer for problems have 
been oh it works here or No it is not broken something to that order. 
This list needs less of this type of condensation. However my appolgies are 
in order. So to get that out of the way. We need to try to help the 
frustrated people with problems they need help with, realizing that at that 
point in time they have understandably short fuses. We should never 
trivialize peoples problems. That is why linux faces such an uphill battle 
with becoming a Desktop fact unstead of a want to be.

 I was aware of the mdkkdm problem however until 14mdk I had no problems. 
except for the past 3 or for upgrades nothing that i put in 
/etc/sysconfig/desktop had any effect and i had even forgot i had changed 
them. For they didn't have any effect! only after checking a few thing that I 
realized what happened. There have been many times that upgrades do break 
things and nothing helps except reinstalling the distro especially when I 
upgrade many  things. I appriciate the help by the way. I am glad that with 
both your help that didn't happen this time.





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Salane King
On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, Salane King wrote:
 On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote:
  Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit :
   I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have
   DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first
   
before you answer foolishly.
  
   No need to be rude BTW, I did try to help after all.  And it was you
   who answered foolishly.
  
   Gregory K. Meyer
 
  Yep, and mister salane please, before complaining next, read the mailing
  list archive with your favorite find tool, the answers are all there for
  that recent problem...

 to quote what i was disturbed at

 this upgrade broke my login with kdm and startx as well on reboot
 /var/log/messages that may be pertanant
 
 No it didn't, it just split kdm out as a seperate package.

 Too many times there have been many times that the answer for problems have
 been oh it works here or No it is not broken something to that order.
 This list needs less of this type of condensation. However my appolgies are
 in order. So to get that out of the way. We need to try to help the
 frustrated people with problems they need help with, realizing that at that
 point in time they have understandably short fuses. We should never
 trivialize peoples problems. That is why linux faces such an uphill battle
 with becoming a Desktop fact unstead of a want to be.

  I was aware of the mdkkdm problem however until 14mdk I had no problems.
 except for the past 3 or for upgrades nothing that i put in
 /etc/sysconfig/desktop had any effect and i had even forgot i had changed
 them. For they didn't have any effect! only after checking a few thing that
 I realized what happened. There have been many times that upgrades do break
 things and nothing helps except reinstalling the distro especially when I
 upgrade many  things. I appriciate the help by the way. I am glad that with
 both your help that didn't happen this time.

Of course being tired now of fighting this, but  after reinstalling 14 and 
changing the  /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of course as 
with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe. Only gdm works to 
login to kde.   As i said i am tired of fighting this now. gdm is my safe bet 
until later in the long beta cycle or after i reinstall again to get all of 
the conf files right.





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdelibs-3.1-14mdk broke login

2003-02-07 Thread Bongani Hlope
On Sat, 08 Feb 2003 00:56:28 -0500
Salane King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 07 February 2003 09:44 pm, Salane King wrote:
  On Friday 07 February 2003 09:26 pm, Pascal wrote:
   Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 02:58, Gregory K. Meyer a écrit :
I beg to differ with you. Have you rebooted yet? Do you have
DISPLAYMANAGER=kde set in /etc/sysconfig/desktop? Investigate first

snip

 Of course being tired now of fighting this, but  after reinstalling 14 and 
 changing the  /etc/sysconfig/desktop to kdm and then to kde. Of course as 
 with my luck, neither allowed anything other than failsafe. Only gdm works to 
 login to kde.   As i said i am tired of fighting this now. gdm is my safe bet 
 until later in the long beta cycle or after i reinstall again to get all of 
 the conf files right.
 
 


Did you try to install kdebase-kdm


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