Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-10-04 Thread Kelvin Lau
Hi Oliver! Yes that is what I see in my foot when I fetch from different sources I started looking at the lines of the PDB too to see if there are any striking differences. -- Kelvin Lau Protein production and structure core facility - PTPSP EPFL SV PTECH PTPSP AI 2146 (Bâtiment AI) Station 19

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-29 Thread Oliver Clarke
Whoops sorry - corrected link: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/t113o9lgprboqycz21ryc/mdo_7tqr.mov?rlkey=y8154e0t5gc6y6odnfhplo9qf=0 > On Sep 29, 2023, at 8:31 AM, Oliver Clarke wrote: > > For me, MDO in 7tqr blows up if I use the model/map from “Fetch PDB & Map > using EDS”, using Coot

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-29 Thread Oliver Clarke
For me, MDO in 7tqr blows up if I use the model/map from “Fetch PDB & Map using EDS”, using Coot 0.9.8.91 EL (CCP4): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yw4nkiz9zmpms7gx3ie1h/7tqr_mdo.mov?rlkey=rtpo3vcl0jy7tha1qd8t82goz=0 But interestingly, if I use the PDB and map from PDB-REDO, it refines just

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-29 Thread Lucrezia Catapano
Hi Kelvin, I tried the following on 7tqr, and it seems to work. I am using coot 0.9.8.92 (CCP4): Get monomer MDO merge MDO in the model and fit into the density MDO now has number 617, this needs to be changed to 141. Edit renumber residue: select the model, and then ‘Start Residue’ 617,

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-25 Thread Kelvin Lau
Dear all Thank you for looking into this. @Keitaro: I forgot to say I am on 0.9.8.91 EL (ccp4) build. If I just refine the MDO (A/141) or residues 140-141 together, both ways, the ligand moves out of the density and the stats become all red. However, I do see that the links are there. Today

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-22 Thread Keitaro Yamashita
As Lucrezia explained, group names in the monomer library are fixed after Acedrg. To be a peptide, a monomer should have N/CA/C/O/OXT/H/H2/H3 atoms with the proper bonding pattern. If the atom names are different, they will be demoted to NON-POLYMER and an alias will be added. This was partly

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-22 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Lorrie - life is getting more complicated every day! On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 at 23:39, Lucrezia Catapano < ade43f7741e4-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi Kelvin, > > the 'group' in the monomer library do not necessarily correspond to the > 'type' in CCD. The reason was that stricter

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-21 Thread Lucrezia Catapano
Hi Kelvin, the 'group' in the monomer library do not necessarily correspond to the 'type' in CCD. The reason was that stricter rules for peptides and other groups were applied to the library. For MDO, there are 2 links: MDO-pept and pept-MDO to deal with this in a polypeptide. Of course, you

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-21 Thread Paul Emsley
On 21/09/2023 18:58, Paul Emsley wrote: On 21/09/2023 18:05, Kelvin Lau wrote: Dear all I am having trouble with an unnatural ligand/amino acid. I have a structure very similar to PDB 6Q6H, 7TQR. They all have an MDO residue that replaces three residues in a series G-A-S-G-D to become

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-21 Thread Paul Emsley
On 21/09/2023 22:25, Kelvin Lau wrote: Hi Eleanor Thanks for catching that.. I was under the impression that when I am fetching the monomer, MDO, it was defined as a peptide, not a non polymer … at least that’s what is listed here: https://www.rcsb.org/ligand/MDO I guess I have to go about

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-21 Thread Paul Emsley
On 21/09/2023 21:56, Eleanor Dodson wrote: And in fact it doesnt.. Wasn't that implied by my reply? :-) Paul. To unsubscribe from the COOT list, click the following link:

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-21 Thread Kelvin Lau
Hi Eleanor Thanks for catching that.. I was under the impression that when I am fetching the monomer, MDO, it was defined as a peptide, not a non polymer … at least that’s what is listed here: https://www.rcsb.org/ligand/MDO I guess I have to go about as Paul suggested as changing it to

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
And in fact it doesnt.. data_comp_list loop_ _chem_comp.id _chem_comp.three_letter_code _chem_comp.name _chem_comp.group _chem_comp.number_atoms_all _chem_comp.number_atoms_nh _chem_comp.desc_level MDO MDO "{2-[(1S)-1-aminoethyl]-4-methylidene-5-oxo-4,5-dihydro-1H-imidazol-1-yl}acetic acid"

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-21 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Check the dictionary has labelled it as peptide like ALA data_comp_list loop_ _chem_comp.id _chem_comp.three_letter_code _chem_comp.name _chem_comp.group _chem_comp.number_atoms_all _chem_comp.number_atoms_nh _chem_comp.desc_level ALA ALA ALANINE *peptide* 13 6 . On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 18:58,

Re: [COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-21 Thread Paul Emsley
On 21/09/2023 18:05, Kelvin Lau wrote: Dear all I am having trouble with an unnatural ligand/amino acid. I have a structure very similar to PDB 6Q6H, 7TQR. They all have an MDO residue that replaces three residues in a series G-A-S-G-D to become G-MDO-D. MDO is in the Coot library. I have

[COOT] MDO Unnatural modified Amino acid

2023-09-21 Thread Kelvin Lau
Dear all I am having trouble with an unnatural ligand/amino acid. I have a structure very similar to PDB 6Q6H, 7TQR. They all have an MDO residue that replaces three residues in a series G-A-S-G-D to become G-MDO-D. MDO is in the Coot library. I have been very used to replacing cysteines with