Re: more information about project split

2009-06-26 Thread Owen O'Malley
Of course the 4' is much closer to my choice #2, which makes me happy too. +1

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-26 Thread Amr Awadallah
+1 for 4' :) -- amr Ted Dunning wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Doug Cutting wrote: Oops, I added a new option that I called (4), but should have called (5): (4) Send create/resolve to -dev and all others to -issues (a new list) plus prohibit all comment edits and permit

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-26 Thread Ted Dunning
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Doug Cutting wrote: > > Oops, I added a new option that I called (4), but should have called (5): > > (4) Send create/resolve to -dev and all others to -issues (a new >> list) plus prohibit all comment edits and permit comment deletion >> only by admins. (Closi

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-26 Thread Doug Cutting
Amr Awadallah wrote: The way you describe it below works great for me, I must have misunderstood what (4) means, from Owen's email it said: 4. all to dev as opposed to create/resolve to dev, and all to issues (which I am totally ok with and would work great for me). Oops, I added a new op

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-26 Thread Doug Cutting
Ted Dunning wrote: Keep your subscription, but add a filter to divert or delete all JIRA notices that come from the mailing list. Then, subscribe individually to JIRAs. Since their notices won't come from the mailing list, you will still get these. Yes, the common practice is to shunt all mes

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-26 Thread Amr Awadallah
> Does this meet your needs? Doug, The way you describe it below works great for me, I must have misunderstood what (4) means, from Owen's email it said: > 4. all to dev as opposed to create/resolve to dev, and all to issues (which I am totally ok with and would work great for me). Thank

Re: Fwd: more information about project split

2009-06-26 Thread Doug Cutting
Nigel Daley wrote: Doug, given Owen's away this week, can you update the Jira config to implement (4). Until this is done, the patch testing process can't see when Jira's change states and thus nothing is getting tested. The first step is creating the -issues lists. I just filed a Jira for t

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-26 Thread Ted Dunning
Keep your subscription, but add a filter to divert or delete all JIRA notices that come from the mailing list. Then, subscribe individually to JIRAs. Since their notices won't come from the mailing list, you will still get these. On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Amr Awadallah wrote: > For ex

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-26 Thread Doug Cutting
Amr Awadallah wrote: To re-iterate, not all JIRAs are imporant to me, there are some key ones that I would like to get all updates on, and there are others that I would just like to check once in a while but don't really have capacity to be getting email updates for. How do we accommodate that?

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-26 Thread Amr Awadallah
Steve and co, I would really appreciate if you guys can propose a solution that works for me, I am sorry if I am coming across as a pain in the behind, but please help :) To re-iterate, not all JIRAs are imporant to me, there are some key ones that I would like to get all updates on, and t

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-25 Thread Jakob Homan
Another option, which I've used extensively, is to make use of the rss feeds JIRA provides for all filters, issues lists and contributors/commitor actions. I have separate rss feeds for added recently, resolved recently and blockers. This allows me to track these events without crowding my em

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Loughran
> Choices: >1. create/resolve/close to dev >2. create/resolve/close to dev, others to jira >3. create/comment/resolve/close to dev >4. all to dev > > The problem with 3 is that you can add comments on most of the > actions. So either you capture all events or you only capture part

Fwd: more information about project split

2009-06-24 Thread Nigel Daley
e 24, 2009 9:55:47 PM PDT To: Subject: Re: more information about project split Reply-To: core-dev@hadoop.apache.org +1 for (4). Jim Kellerman (POWERSET) wrote: +1 for (4) -Original Message- From: Doug Cutting [mailto:cutt...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Doug Cutting Sent: Tuesday, June

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-24 Thread Devaraj Das
+1 for (4) On 6/23/09 8:33 PM, "Owen O'Malley" wrote: I really prefer the current approach, but clearly we need to reach consensus. Last week we had a case where a developer sent to the users lists because he thought that dev was reserved for jira traffic. That is a bad sign. Doug is the most p

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-24 Thread Hemanth Yamijala
+1 for (4). Jim Kellerman (POWERSET) wrote: +1 for (4) -Original Message- From: Doug Cutting [mailto:cutt...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Doug Cutting Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:32 AM To: core-dev@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: more information about project split Owen O'M

RE: more information about project split

2009-06-24 Thread Jim Kellerman (POWERSET)
+1 for (4) > -Original Message- > From: Doug Cutting [mailto:cutt...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Doug Cutting > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:32 AM > To: core-dev@hadoop.apache.org > Subject: Re: more information about project split > > Owen O'Malley wrote: &g

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-24 Thread Konstantin Shvachko
- From: Doug Cutting [mailto:cutt...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Doug Cutting Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:32 AM To: core-dev@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: more information about project split Owen O'Malley wrote: I think the community is better served by having a mailing list that is domi

RE: more information about project split

2009-06-24 Thread Jim Kellerman (POWERSET)
+1 for (4) > -Original Message- > From: Doug Cutting [mailto:cutt...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Doug Cutting > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 11:32 AM > To: core-dev@hadoop.apache.org > Subject: Re: more information about project split > > Owen O'Malley wrote: &g

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-24 Thread Doug Cutting
Amr Awadallah wrote: I can't set email filters for which jiras I am interested in getting full updates on, that would mean I have to set an additional filter for each jira ticket one by one, not very scalable. Is that what you suggesting? I think all that Dhruba is suggesting is that if a dev

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-24 Thread Raghu Angadi
What I use to filter mails for jiras I am more interested in (watching/created/assigned...) : from : j...@apache.org to : rang...@yahoo-inc.com hope it helps. Raghu. Amr Awadallah wrote: Dhruba, I can't set email filters for which jiras I am interested in getting full updates on, that wo

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-24 Thread Nigel Daley
+1 for (4) On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Dhruba Borthakur wrote: +1 for (4). This means that the default settings for a hadoop developer is to get eveyrthing via email. This allows anyone to set filter settings on his/her own email reader to prioritise which types of emails one woul

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-24 Thread Amr Awadallah
Dhruba, I can't set email filters for which jiras I am interested in getting full updates on, that would mean I have to set an additional filter for each jira ticket one by one, not very scalable. Is that what you suggesting? On 6/23/09, Dhruba Borthakur wrote: > +1 for (4). > > This means th

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-23 Thread Jeff Hammerbacher
+1 for (4). I agree with Doug that JIRAs are often used for discussion. I wouldn't mind getting the Hudson reports excluded (wow, what a surprise! -1 for failed tests in contrib), but otherwise, I enjoy how having JIRA send emails pushes many folks to consolidate discussions on the JIRA instead of

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-23 Thread Dhruba Borthakur
+1 for (4). This means that the default settings for a hadoop developer is to get eveyrthing via email. This allows anyone to set filter settings on his/her own email reader to prioritise which types of emails one would like to process-in-depth. -dhruba On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Amr Awada

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-23 Thread Amr Awadallah
+1 for (2) [assuming jira here means a separate mailing list that gets the full jira traffic] My main reasoning is: not all issues are relevant to all people, so we should let folks select which issues they want to stay fully updated on (that is why JIRA has the watch functionality). For thos

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-23 Thread Doug Cutting
Owen O'Malley wrote: I think the community is better served by having a mailing list that is dominated by people posting rather than a deluge of jira traffic. This is a somewhat false dichotomy: Jira messages are postings by people. Folks should not make changes in Jira without realizing thi

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-23 Thread Raghu Angadi
Any option except (1). Having a separate mailing list for jira traffic is probably the best option (ie. option 2). Even with just create/resolve sent to dev, the Jira traffic would still dominate. Raghu. Owen O'Malley wrote: I really prefer the current approach, but clearly we need to reac

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-23 Thread Owen O'Malley
I really prefer the current approach, but clearly we need to reach consensus. Last week we had a case where a developer sent to the users lists because he thought that dev was reserved for jira traffic. That is a bad sign. Doug is the most prolific non-jira poster to core-dev and in 37th pl

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-22 Thread Amr Awadallah
I like Owen's approach better, we will get an email every time a ticket is created or resolved, and we can selectively watch the one's you want to see immediate updates on. That strikes the proper balance between being informed of what is going on without being flooded. It also had the added

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-22 Thread Doug Cutting
Raghu Angadi wrote: I would like to receive the updates (at least the ones with comments) without having to watch each of them. +1 The full process should be logged in email. Doug

Re: more information about project split

2009-06-22 Thread Raghu Angadi
Owen O'Malley wrote: We now have 3 subprojects common, hdfs, and mapreduce that replace the old core. Their urls are: [...] For the new Jiras, I currently have them set to only send out email to the dev list on create, resolve, and close. All events still go to the creator, assignee, and wat

more information about project split

2009-06-21 Thread Owen O'Malley
We now have 3 subprojects common, hdfs, and mapreduce that replace the old core. Their urls are: Common: core-{user,dev,commi...@hadoop.apache.org - these will be replaced by common-* https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/hadoop/common/ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP HDFS: hdfs-{u