Re: [coreboot] RFC: coding style: "standard" defines

2016-02-08 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 9:46 AM Nico Huber wrote: > On 08.02.2016 12:10, Patrick Georgi via coreboot wrote: > > 2016-02-04 10:35 GMT+01:00 Patrick Georgi : > >> during the review of some commits that are in the process of being > >> upstreamed from Chrome OS, people noticed that chipset drivers li

Re: [coreboot] RFC: coding style: "standard" defines

2016-02-08 Thread ron minnich
makes sense to me. On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 3:10 AM Patrick Georgi via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote: > 2016-02-04 10:35 GMT+01:00 Patrick Georgi : > > during the review of some commits that are in the process of being > > upstreamed from Chrome OS, people noticed that chipset drivers lik

Re: [coreboot] RFC: coding style: "standard" defines

2016-02-04 Thread ron minnich
Nico, I agree with you completely: non-zero is true, zero false. It's C. But I am starting now to feel like a dinosaur, b/c "Oh, and I'm trying to hang with the cool kids and use bool :)" -- Rusty It makes me want to start an emo coreboot programmer feed like this one: https://twitter.com/kylor3n?

Re: [coreboot] RFC: coding style: "standard" defines

2016-02-04 Thread ron minnich
omething to the coding guide to > > avoid magic numbers? > Make that a separate thread please :-) > > > Patrick > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 6:05 AM, ron minnich wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:29 AM Patrick Georgi via coreboot &g

Re: [coreboot] RFC: coding style: "standard" defines

2016-02-04 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:29 AM Patrick Georgi via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote: > > > 1. TRUE/FALSE > Do we want such defines? If so, TRUE/FALSE, or true/false, or > True/False, or ...? > should we start using bool ...? > > 2. BIT16 vs BIT(16) vs (1 << 16) vs 0x1 > I don't think i

Re: [coreboot] [RFC] Proposal for policy for changing the development guidelines

2016-01-30 Thread ron minnich
On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 3:06 PM Alex G. wrote: > Furthermore, I believe that this arbitrary > change was done as an act of spite towards a set of engineers. Well, wow. This just got weird. I think I'm done with this discussion. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.c

Re: [coreboot] [RFC] Proposal for policy for changing the development guidelines

2016-01-30 Thread ron minnich
The requirement for ATT syntax was set informally in 2001, when I had some partners from U. Md. who were advocating for Intel syntax. We discovered that having two syntaxes is unworkable. >From that time we assumed that everyone would use a common syntax. It certainly never occurred to us that we

Re: [coreboot] Linux kernel as payload?

2016-01-21 Thread ron minnich
I think JELTKA is a model of how it can be done. Consider talking to John Lewis. Ron, Satisfied JELTKA user. On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 9:58 AM Patrick Georgi via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote: > 2016-01-21 18:49 GMT+01:00 Kitestramuort : > > Can I compile it 64bit? > As long as you keep

Re: [coreboot] Building on 64 Bit Linux

2016-01-19 Thread ron minnich
Just build the coreboot crossbuild chain and you should be fine. I've been building on 64-bit linux for years. On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 7:39 AM Gregg Levine wrote: > Hello! > Not yet. I'm still bringing over my backups from an earlier period of > time so I can't rightfully say. I can state that S

Re: [coreboot] Where is the first instrucion?

2016-01-10 Thread ron minnich
One thing I think you'd enjoy doing is building the qemu target, setting up qemu with gdb, and just watching what happens, instruction by instruction, as the system boots. ron On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:28 AM Rafael Machado < rafaelrodrigues.mach...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Peter and Rudolf. > Than

[coreboot] running RISCV on coreboot with linux in flash

2016-01-05 Thread ron minnich
Please see: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pvf9Yxorcd3sbgs8WcomcTl3J4bmX6e1UE0ROCefR88/edit?usp=sharing corrections welcome. -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] baytrail + fsp_baytrail

2015-12-08 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:16 PM Peter Stuge wrote: > ron minnich wrote: > > nobody cared enough to really do the work > > That's the problem - not the solution. Don't build infrastructure to > support complacency, build infrastructure to support desirable activity

Re: [coreboot] baytrail + fsp_baytrail

2015-12-07 Thread ron minnich
there's another way to do this that few people use. Back in the E7500 days, the 7505 came along. We experimented with this: src/northbridge/intel/e750x and put the common files in there. Under e750x we had e7500 e7505 for the different files. so, src/northbridge/intel/e750x/{e7500,e7505} worked f

Re: [coreboot] baytrail + fsp_baytrail

2015-12-06 Thread ron minnich
as long as it does not turn into #ifdef spaghetti it's worth a look. ron On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 8:19 AM Alexander Couzens wrote: > hi, > > baytrail and fsp_baytrail shares a lot of code. > Any ideas how we can merge these? > > best, > lynxis > > -- > Alexander Couzens > > mail: lyn...@fe80.eu >

Re: [coreboot] setting up a bug tracker

2015-11-09 Thread ron minnich
Let's not do anon service. Our last bug tracker became a transit point for all kinds of junk. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] Removal of AGESA - to be or NOT to be? A story of G505S

2015-11-07 Thread ron minnich
Can we calm down? Vladimir, your note came out after I -2'ed Alex's proposal and we have made it clear that the proposal to "Remove" AGESA is just that -- a proposal. It's not going to happen. Thanks ron On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 6:12 AM Vladimir wrote: > > > >>> On 11/07/2015 10:18 AM, Alex Gagn

Re: [coreboot] Coreboot hackaton 2016 (proposal in Paris)

2015-11-02 Thread ron minnich
So, I think in the next day, we should pick the location and date for the "spring" meeting. I'd also suggest it be a 6 month interval between meetings, which is the other reason I thought end of january was a bit too soon. Sound OK? What Stefan says is very true. I have friends here in the US wh

Re: [coreboot] Coreboot hackaton 2016 (proposal in Paris)

2015-11-02 Thread ron minnich
yeah, FOSDEM happens at a very unpleasant time of year. Short days, lots of rain, cold, ... ron On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 12:07 PM Vadim Bendebury wrote: > I just looked at the dates - end of January seems a bit odd time to visit, > cold nasty weather, higher likelihood of air travel delays, etc.

Re: [coreboot] A case for branching AGESA

2015-11-01 Thread ron minnich
So, if someone came to me with this problem: building all the targets is slow and this solution: get rid of a bunch of them I'd tell them to go back for more data, because that's just not enough information. Why's it slow? Where's the time going? How many files, on average, are part of an AGESA b

Re: [coreboot] Coreboot hackaton 2016 (proposal in Paris)

2015-11-01 Thread ron minnich
This sounds like a wonderful idea, and I think I would like to attend and help out. On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 8:42 AM wrote: > Dear coreboot friends, > > As discussed briefly in the last minutes of the Bonn meeting, I propose > to organize the next coreboot hackaton in Paris in 2016. > Here is my p

Re: [coreboot] Announcing coreboot 4.2

2015-10-30 Thread ron minnich
Nice job all. Patrick, I'm looking forward t the next release detailing how many files and lines were removed :-) include, oh sad, the 440lx :-) ron On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:38 PM Patrick Georgi wrote: > (Halloween 2015 release - just as scary as that sounds) > > Dear coreboot community, > >

Re: [coreboot] coreboot binary policy

2015-10-30 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 10:59 AM Alex Gagniuc wrote: > > I think historically, it has been assumed that everything in blobs is > open up for RE and modification. > History? What? Only if your timeline is really short. We first started doing the blobs support in 2001 for graphics. We NEVER held i

Re: [coreboot] Document for review: coreboot Gerrit Etiquette and Guidelines

2015-10-30 Thread ron minnich
Possibly an appendix defining coreboot leadership would help. On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:51 AM Martin Roth wrote: > Hi Alex, > Thanks for voicing your concerns. I do think that most of the > issues you bring up are handled, or aren't as big issues you make them > out to be. As always, I cou

Re: [coreboot] Document for review: coreboot Gerrit Etiquette and Guidelines

2015-10-29 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:49 PM Alex G. wrote: > My bad. > > > Apology accepted. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] Document for review: coreboot Gerrit Etiquette and Guidelines

2015-10-29 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:04 PM Alex G. wrote: > Hi Martin, > > It seems that the first part of your document ("Summary", and "More > detail") is written in direct response to the removal of FSP 1.0 a month > or so ago. It might seem that way to you, having been at the eye of that particular st

Re: [coreboot] Proposal: Removing obsolete & EOL boards and chipsets for 4.2 release

2015-10-28 Thread ron minnich
IIRC I did the IBM e325/6 back in the day and I'm happy to see it die. ron On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:49 AM Martin Roth wrote: > It seems that we've got more issues than we can address before the > proposed 4.2 release date within the next few days - we're trying to > get this out in October. >

Re: [coreboot] Proposal: Removing obsolete & EOL boards and chipsets for 4.2 release

2015-10-27 Thread ron minnich
I think we can make it clear to AMD that we are grateful for AGESA and their support, and the way they have helped us to get to a good place in terms of code; and, further, we can now offer a better option, with code that really fits well into coreboot. I don't see demoting AGESA as a bad thing; i

Re: [coreboot] Proposal: Removing obsolete & EOL boards and chipsets for 4.2 release

2015-10-27 Thread ron minnich
The AGESA code was always an awkward fit into coreboot. It was more like a badly designed artificial limb than a real part of the code base. I understand the idea of encouraging vendors to commit source but, at this point, the AMD ship has sailed off to Port Binary Blob. AGESA was helpful in its ti

Re: [coreboot] VGA cleanup advice

2015-10-27 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:52 AM Nicky Sielicki wrote: > Hello list, > > I'm interested in cleaning up some of the VGA programming in coreboot. > Good :-) > > I was trying to figure out why GM45 "native" textmode isn't working. I > noticed the following bit of code > > > northbridge/intel/gm45

Re: [coreboot] SPD binaries in coreboot

2015-10-23 Thread ron minnich
Aaron is my hero :-) ron On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:35 AM Aaron Durbin wrote: > This one's for Ron. > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:32 AM, ron minnich wrote: > > Build the tool in go. It's trivial. If you have an idea how it ought to > work > > I can se

Re: [coreboot] SPD binaries in coreboot

2015-10-23 Thread ron minnich
We'll agree to disagree :-) ron On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:55 AM Patrick Georgi wrote: > 2015-10-23 17:53 GMT+02:00 ron minnich : > > Actually the idea crossed my mind because I just saw a different tool hit > > the tree yesterday that was written in ... guess what languag

Re: [coreboot] SPD binaries in coreboot

2015-10-23 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:39 AM Patrick Georgi wrote: > It's more trivial not to have a tool in the first place. > It's also more trivial not to add a new dependency to our build process. > Especially a dependency that is lacking in portability (ie. users > can't build coreboot anymore because th

Re: [coreboot] SPD binaries in coreboot

2015-10-23 Thread ron minnich
Build the tool in go. It's trivial. If you have an idea how it ought to work I can set it up in the playground in a few minutes. ron On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:24 AM Patrick Georgi wrote: > Hi, > > Some mainboards come with soldered-on memory without SPD ROM. For > these, we carry the SPD data i

Re: [coreboot] GPL license headers

2015-10-20 Thread ron minnich
ability. I don't really see any NEED to get rid of the second > paragraph. > > Are there any other thoughts either way on getting rid of the second > paragraph? > > Martin > > > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Alex G. wrote: > > On 10/20/2015 10:54 AM, r

Re: [coreboot] GPL license headers

2015-10-20 Thread ron minnich
Eben Moglen, who ought to know, guided us on the release rules for the Plan 9 GPL release. Here is what he told us could go in each file: /* * This file is part of the UCB release of Plan 9. It is subject to the license * terms in the LICENSE file found in the top-level directory of this * dist

Re: [coreboot] GPL license headers

2015-10-19 Thread ron minnich
I won't say +1, that's so 2014. Plus Two! ron On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:53 AM Peter Stuge wrote: > Patrick Georgi wrote: > > The paragraph in question is: > > > > You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License > > along with this program; if not, write to the Free Soft

Re: [coreboot] Emergency: Talks needed for coreboot conference in Bonn

2015-10-04 Thread ron minnich
BTW, will you be recording. That's something we've lacked in the past. ron On Sun, Oct 4, 2015 at 6:02 AM Alexander Couzens wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to give a talk about my embedded controller programming. > > And beside that, I would like to have a talk/workshop something, to > think abou

Re: [coreboot] Good OCP nodes for development?

2015-09-28 Thread ron minnich
What Power board would you recommend for this test? ron On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 7:07 PM Timothy Pearson < tpear...@raptorengineeringinc.com> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/26/2015 03:18 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > I just joined the op

[coreboot] Good OCP nodes for development?

2015-09-26 Thread ron minnich
I just joined the open compute project as an individual member. Anybody have some idea on what type of their nodes and which vendor are good to look at for coreboot? I realize OCP is not a coreboot user (I had that discussion with them about 5 years ago and they went with conventional wisdom, sadl

Re: [coreboot] Goodies for Bonn meeting

2015-09-16 Thread ron minnich
I'd love the hat cpu magnet thanks ron On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:30 AM Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko < phco...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, all. My girlfriend Maria (CC'ed) would like to organize some > goodies for coreboot meeting. Already available are black T-shirts: > 2 x M, 8 x L, 1

Re: [coreboot] From wildcat linking to exploring new languages

2015-08-29 Thread ron minnich
If people feel strongly enough about this then we can do an external repo for now. Nico, do you want to set up a github repo and we can work out procedures people use to try this out? As you know I'm more interested in Muen as a replacement for the ramstage but this is a good first step. ron --

Re: [coreboot] From wildcat linking to exploring new languages

2015-08-28 Thread ron minnich
ng that ugly in the tree, I think we have room for SPARK :-) I think this could prove to be a very important new direction for coreboot, and I still think it belongs in the tree. ron On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 2:07 PM Carl-Daniel Hailfinger < c-d.hailfinger.devel.2...@gmx.net> wrote: >

Re: [coreboot] From wildcat linking to exploring new languages

2015-08-28 Thread ron minnich
I would really like this to be in the tree. It gives us a chance to do things in coreboot that go beyond C and assembly. So that's my $.02. What harm would it do? ron On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:00 AM Nico Huber wrote: > Am 28.08.2015 17:51, schrieb Patrick Georgi: > > 2015-08-28 17:35 GMT+02:00

Re: [coreboot] From wildcat linking to exploring new languages

2015-08-28 Thread ron minnich
ieb ron minnich: > > This sounds wonderful. I'm all for it. > Did you just kill any discussion with that line? :) > > Things live currently in a small library that I called `libsparkhw` > (came spontaneously, I don't care much about the name). It contains > some frame

Re: [coreboot] From wildcat linking to exploring new languages

2015-08-21 Thread ron minnich
This sounds wonderful. I'm all for it. ron On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:46 PM Nico Huber wrote: > Hi coreboot folks! > > I dared to link a coreboot ramstage with, well, not only C but also some > fancy Ada code. Things worked out well enough and I'd like to release > the code and upstream it. > >

Re: [coreboot] How to check if DRAM init is OK?

2015-08-04 Thread ron minnich
it's an ARM. There was a primitive memory test in the early days of our ARM ports that might be useful. It was simple but it caught our problems. On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:18 AM WANG FEI wrote: > How about MemTest86? See this link http://www.coreboot.org/Memtest86, I > never use it before. > >

Re: [coreboot] cbfs alignment

2015-07-31 Thread ron minnich
yes, they all *seem* like the ought to end up aligned, but they don't :-( RISCV changed; they can do unaligned loads now. On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:26 PM Julius Werner wrote: > -mno-unaligned-access is ARM32 only, unfortunately. You'd have to > convince GCC developers to generalize it. > > > Th

Re: [coreboot] VT-d on Pixel 2015 (samus)

2015-07-26 Thread ron minnich
2) I wrote in because `xl info` in Xen was reporting > VT-x, but not VT-d, was activated and I was interested in how I could > activate the former--isn't 0x3a unrelated to VT-d? Hopefully you can > clarify this for me. > > Noah > > On 07/24/2015 11:25 PM, ron minnich wrote: &

Re: [coreboot] Thinkpad ECs (H8)

2015-07-25 Thread ron minnich
w.r.t. the git question, I cloned it too and poked around, doesn't seem to be anything there save a few empy branches and a log with one entry. ron On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 1:33 PM Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: > Hi, > > I just learned about (and watched) a presentation[1] that is about > backdo

Re: [coreboot] VT-d on Pixel 2015 (samus)

2015-07-24 Thread ron minnich
what does rdmsr 0 0x3a show you? ron On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 10:06 PM Noah Vesely wrote: > I've been trying to get VT-d working on John Lewis's build for the 2015 > Pixel (samus). You can see our conversation at > https://plus.google.com/116173342884039282107/posts/TGA4EXYQMfq and I > have also

Re: [coreboot] Finding whether the BIOS is coreboot or not

2015-07-18 Thread ron minnich
Could you also look for LBIO in the e and f segments? On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 12:34 AM Patrick Georgi wrote: > 2015-07-18 9:03 GMT+02:00 Kevin Wilson : > > Is there a way, from a device running Linux, to which I have access > > to the command line, to know > > whether the BIOS is coreboot or no

Re: [coreboot] cbfs alignment

2015-07-17 Thread ron minnich
we're going to support unaligned accesses, they make it easy. I think it's silly that have data structs that are not 64-bit aligned, however :-) ron On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:05 PM Julius Werner wrote: > Is there no way to make RISCV support unaligned accesses? There's a > bunch of things in co

Re: [coreboot] cbfs alignment

2015-07-17 Thread ron minnich
architecture we're not on. goodbye, a = b hello, memcpy(&a, &b, sizeof(a)); barf. ron On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 1:23 PM Aaron Durbin wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 2:45 PM, ron minnich wrote: > > riscv is taking alignment traps reading cbfs. > > > > The issue

[coreboot] cbfs alignment

2015-07-17 Thread ron minnich
riscv is taking alignment traps reading cbfs. The issue is that 64-bit fields are 32-bit aligned, which fails many places. Thaminda found this comment: * Since coreboot is usually compiled 32bit, gcc will align 64bit * types to 32bit boundaries. If the coreboot table is dumped on a * 64bit s

Re: [coreboot] About coreboot

2015-07-03 Thread ron minnich
Coreboot is written in C and assembly, with very little assembly. Your best bet is to build the QEMU target first and just learn how to build, boot, and change it. ron On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:36 PM francisco dominguez < francisco.dominguez.ler...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, I'm new, I would like t

Re: [coreboot] T400 screen issue / EDID handling

2015-07-03 Thread ron minnich
Gee, what fun. There are lots of things that can go wrong, to get some idea, see the display handling for HP Falco, in which we managed 4 different types of displays. I'll try to take a look later, but just keep in mind that the displays are frequently not all the same on different production runs

Re: [coreboot] trouble ahead?

2015-07-01 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 7:46 AM wrote: > Depends .. if the big software company mentioned in the FA sees UEFI as > *VERY* strategical for its business, what would be the point to be "nice" > with a project that provides a competing solution of platform > initialisation code?.. > The big company o

Re: [coreboot] trouble ahead?

2015-07-01 Thread ron minnich
I can't see that it matters at all. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] T60 with ATI has black screen

2015-06-28 Thread ron minnich
So, can someone remind me, is there no native graphics for the T60? I could have sworn we got there last time we met. Or even in Berlin. ron On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 7:52 AM Richard Simpson wrote: > Carl-Daniel, > > I am back in the factory BIOS. I have gathered the data for Łukasz and > can up

Re: [coreboot] [Bug?] 3 different bytes in VGAbios after upgrade to coreboot

2015-06-02 Thread ron minnich
interesting. Not sure what is up here but I have seen that many VGA bioses copy themselves to RAM and then modify their own code. Actually, I have seen many BIOSes that do this self modifying code hack; they use it to change behavior for a warm restart; copy themselves to shadow RAM and then change

Re: [coreboot] Cbfstool compilation error with gcc 5.1

2015-05-31 Thread ron minnich
who knows, but we do things to keep gcc happy anyway. just set phdr to null in the declaration. ron On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 11:50 PM Anatol Pomozov wrote: > Hi > > I am trying to compile coreboot cbfstool on Arch where gcc 5.1 is used. > And I see following compilation error. I wonder if it is

Re: [coreboot] [poll] device_t

2015-05-08 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:31 AM Aaron Durbin wrote: > > I personally feel that changing device_t type based on stage makes the > code non-obvious and hard to follow. > > I'd rather we *always* provide simple u32 device_t functions in all > stages while allowing struct device IO functions for use i

Re: [coreboot] [poll] device_t

2015-05-07 Thread ron minnich
Oh, yeah, the history of device_t is as old as coreboot v2. It came in ca. 2002 and was part of what made romcc work. It's not a recent or ill-considered change, to say the least. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] [poll] device_t

2015-05-07 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:42 PM Patrick Georgi wrote: > > > > One of these days... > > well, that's kind of key ... one of these days. Once we came to that happy time it might make sense to make this change, but until then, I think we have to wait. Now I know how to vote. ron -- coreboot mailing

Re: [coreboot] [poll] device_t

2015-05-07 Thread ron minnich
> > one counter-question: is romcc ever going away, or at least is the usage > gong to change such that no code would ever use the uint32 version of > device_t? If it's *never* going away then I think the change makes no sense. If romcc is going away, then I would favor the change. ron -- coreb

Re: [coreboot] cmos.layout: power_on_after_fail

2015-05-04 Thread ron minnich
The original use of power_on_after_fail was for HPC server nodes that we wanted to power on after an external power failure without having to go to 1024 nodes and touch a button (this was a real issue at Los Alamos and IIRC the fix came from Linux NetworX). This is LONG before laptops were a gleam

Re: [coreboot] [RFC] Putting HDA verbs in CBFS

2015-05-02 Thread ron minnich
Paul, would it work to name the verb tables by the vendor,device standard we use for vga bios and then be able to pick the right one? e.g. hda8086,1234.tbl or some such? On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 2:03 PM Michał Masłowski wrote: > > One of the major differences between the Lenovo T* models is the H

Re: [coreboot] build failure on amd64 host:- help

2015-04-28 Thread ron minnich
coreboot is a 32 bit binary on x86, still. You should always build the coreboot toolchain and use it to compile coreboot. What you are reporting is a common problem for those who do not use the coreboot toolchain. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:03 PM sibu wrote: > Greetings, > > I am new to this list

Re: [coreboot] I like u

2015-03-26 Thread ron minnich
Does someone have 1234 as a password? On Wed, Mar 25, 2015, 23:41 Kushagra Kumar wrote: > Love u all m dying to cm back > -- > coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org > http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org

Re: [coreboot] B point

2015-03-25 Thread ron minnich
Interesting. I had not used fedora for coreboot for a long time. Nobody I know in chromeos does either. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:28 PM mrnuke via coreboot wrote: > On Thursday, March 26, 2015 07:43:26 AM Kushagra Kumar wrote: > > Which is the best Linux based os to be worked on with coreboot? >

Re: [coreboot] A point

2015-03-25 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:19 PM ron minnich wrote: > It's been a long time since that mattered. Just be sure to build the linux > toolchain. > > > Er, "coreboot toolchain" sorry ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] A point

2015-03-25 Thread ron minnich
It's been a long time since that mattered. Just be sure to build the linux toolchain. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 7:15 PM Kushagra Kumar wrote: > Which is the best Linux based os to be worked on with coreboot? > -- > coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org > http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/list

Re: [coreboot] Solution to Windows 8 booting problems

2015-03-24 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:15 AM Kushagra Kumar wrote: > Try somehow to check the partions acctually this happens due to error in > partition loading during booting process in general.a good firmware should > have capability to repair this error at initial stage > I don't understand your descrip

Re: [coreboot] VGA doesn't work on Mohon Peak

2015-03-23 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:18 PM Kevin O'Connor wrote: > Just to be clear, it's fine to try initializing the video card in > SeaBIOS, it's fine to try initializing the video card in coreboot, and > it's fine to try and hold off initialization until Linux starts. But, > definitely don't try bootin

Re: [coreboot] 0xE0000/0xF0000 segment issue

2015-03-23 Thread ron minnich
Nice job, documents are almost always full of errors :-) Any way you can create a patch for some part of some code base? This email will be forgotten quickly and we want your hard-earned knowledge :-) ron On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM Naresh G. Solanki < naresh.solanki.2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [coreboot] VGA doesn't work on Mohon Peak

2015-03-22 Thread ron minnich
A good first pass is to enable YABEL instead of native execution and watch what it does. That's how I've had to debug graphics before. Also, if you can do a serial console only setup, you can run the VBIOS once linux is booted and try to debug it that way. It's very hard to debug a VBIOS issue as

Re: [coreboot] questions about google/samus

2015-03-13 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 5:27 AM wrote: > Ok Ron, > We all recognise your efforts and don't deny that the question of the > binary blobs" is a very complex and "politicaly hot" one.. > But (and I speak here from a STRICTLY personal point of view) it is the > fashion you chose to lecture Paul than

Re: [coreboot] questions about google/samus

2015-03-13 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:41 AM wrote: > Sorry Ron, > What is his crime? > Thought crime?.. > Florentin > > The problem with people making comments like this: > > Sadly, I don’t think Google has understood how much power they have over > > Intel with their Chromebook and Chromebox success. RAM

Re: [coreboot] questions about google/samus

2015-03-13 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 12:42 AM Paul Menzel < paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > Sadly, I don’t think Google has understood how much power they have over > Intel with their Chromebook and Chromebox success. RAM initialization is > for example still a BLOB and, instead of getting Inte

Re: [coreboot] questions about google/samus

2015-03-12 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:48 PM Paul Menzel < paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > As this is an Intel device [1] and I am waiting for an AMD based laptop, > I’d say no. ;-) > > > I'm not sure AMD improves the situation much any more, and in some ways a non-chromeos laptop has lots of

Re: [coreboot] coreboot meeting this summer!

2015-03-12 Thread ron minnich
I think it would be pretty cool. I think we should try it. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:09 PM Carl-Daniel Hailfinger < c-d.hailfinger.devel.2...@gmx.net> wrote: > On 12.03.2015 19:55, ron minnich wrote: > > Given all the high-tech ability in this group, I wonder if a joint, > >

Re: [coreboot] coreboot meeting this summer!

2015-03-12 Thread ron minnich
Given all the high-tech ability in this group, I wonder if a joint, transglobal, meeting using gvc from san jose to whereever would work :-) ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] Legacy BIOS

2015-03-09 Thread ron minnich
I don't understand why you think we need a "legacy BIOS for minnowboard" given what this group has been doing for the last 15 years. On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 4:24 AM Corey Osgood wrote: > He's trying to advertise his company's legacy BIOS solution. > > -Corey > -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@

Re: [coreboot] Legacy BIOS

2015-03-09 Thread ron minnich
I don't know what you mean, sorry. Ron On Mon, Mar 9, 2015, 00:58 Berth-Olof Bergman wrote: > Hi, > > Seems you need a legacy BIOS for minnow board max. With legacy BIOS you > can run 16, 32 and 64 bit operating systems. We have the fastest booting > BIOS for the Bay Trail architecture and it’s

[coreboot] Fwd: lowRISC in Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-08 Thread ron minnich
-- Forwarded message - From: lowRISC Announcements Date: Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 1:52 PM Subject: lowRISC in Google Summer of Code 2015 To: We're pleased to announce that lowRISC is taking part in Google Summer of Code as a mentoring organisation. We're working with a number of our

Re: [coreboot] Long license headers (ANGER WARNING)

2015-03-04 Thread ron minnich
> > Does this count as common sense? http://review.coreboot.org/#/c/8602/ -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] Long license headers (ANGER WARNING)

2015-03-04 Thread ron minnich
> > http://review.coreboot.org/#/c/8602/ > If this works I'll update the wiki. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] Long license headers (ANGER WARNING)

2015-03-04 Thread ron minnich
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 6:10 AM Patrick Georgi via coreboot < coreboot@coreboot.org> wrote: > 2015-03-04 14:58 GMT+01:00 Peter Stuge : > > I haven't gotten the impression that anyone is suggesting to remove > > or even change any copyright notices. > > > > Copyright documents authorship (like git d

Re: [coreboot] Long license headers (ANGER WARNING)

2015-03-03 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:32 PM Julius Werner wrote: > > > IANAL (I'm not giving legal advice, yada yada), but I don't think that is > how this works. Companies you don't work for can't force you to do X or > prevent you to do Y with their files. > Copyright statements are pretty complicated, and

Re: [coreboot] Long license headers (ANGER WARNING)

2015-03-03 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:42 AM Peter Stuge wrote: > ron minnich wrote: > > > Every project *does* however get to decide on formal requirements for > all contributions, and reject contributions which fail to meet those > requirements. > And that's an excellent poin

Re: [coreboot] Long license headers (ANGER WARNING)

2015-03-03 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:06 AM Paul Menzel < paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 03.03.2015, 00:06 -0600 schrieb Alexandru Gagniuc: > > > In the past Ron also disagreed on changing headers by Samsung – taken > from U-Boot I think – saying their lawyers drafted those and t

Re: [coreboot] Long license headers (ANGER WARNING)

2015-03-02 Thread ron minnich
We've had this discussion before, many times. I've pointed out many times it can be easy, using a form that's now over 20 years old. This is taken from linux. * * Copyright 1993 United States Government as represented by the * Director, National Security Agency. * * This software

Re: [coreboot] New flashrom logo

2015-02-24 Thread ron minnich
Very nice. I like the one on the left best. On Tue Feb 24 2015 at 8:52:26 AM Peter Stuge wrote: > Stefan Tauner wrote: > > logo with half of the rotation attached (15° instead of 30° backwards). > > I really like this one. Nice! > > > //Peter > > -- > coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org

Re: [coreboot] New flashrom logo

2015-02-21 Thread ron minnich
Wow, I love these, and I agree with peter's ideas too. This is great. On Sat Feb 21 2015 at 5:27:35 PM Peter Stuge wrote: > Peter Stuge wrote: > > Stefan Tauner wrote: > > > What do you think about my suggestions and the whole matter? > > > > soic8_30degrees is really good. I would only suggest

Re: [coreboot] Unifying IO accessor macros

2015-02-18 Thread ron minnich
Well, I say it again: it matters not. I don't care how we do it, some ox is going to get gored. The order is much less important than consistency. And ox are tasty. So let's gore one. The problem for me is not that I have an opinion, but that people I respect so highly have different opinions. Ho

Re: [coreboot] Unifying IO accessor macros

2015-02-18 Thread ron minnich
Having spent 15 or so years on Plan 9 and Linux, the only conclusion I can make is that nothing is universal. Plan 9 is this: outl(int port, ulong value) And I used software that came long before Linux (back in the 70s, if you want to know) that followed that form too. I think Linux got it backwa

Re: [coreboot] why is firmware 32 bit as opposed to 64 bit

2015-01-21 Thread ron minnich
This would be a great GSOC project to finish it up. Really nice work! ro On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:09:12 PM Scott Duplichan wrote: > ron minnich [mailto:rminn...@gmail.com] wrote: > > ]Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 06:34 PM > ]To: Marc Jones > ]Cc: Scott Duplichan; coreboot

[coreboot] congratulations to rudolf on an outstanding talk

2015-01-08 Thread ron minnich
see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE_PMcwltzo Great job! ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] I'm building riscv after a little break in time

2015-01-08 Thread ron minnich
nvm. bitrot fixed. On Wed Dec 31 2014 at 7:38:40 PM ron minnich wrote: > and things are a mess. > > Why is ARM_LPAE appearing when I'm selecting riscv?It's at the top level. > > Anybody know why, once I have used menuconfig to set things up, and then > run make, it

[coreboot] I'm building riscv after a little break in time

2015-01-08 Thread ron minnich
and things are a mess. Why is ARM_LPAE appearing when I'm selecting riscv?It's at the top level. Anybody know why, once I have used menuconfig to set things up, and then run make, it starts all over again? This all used to work. I can't ever get past make config, it seems, each time I run make I

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