Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-16 Thread Laurence Lundblade
On Dec 16, 2021, at 7:18 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > > > Laurence Lundblade wrote: >> For example, I find what CoSWID does awkward: >> - Replicating code and definitions generally seems poor practice >> - It excludes the possibility for encryption >> - It doesn’t define what EAT needs, a

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-16 Thread Michael Richardson
Laurence Lundblade wrote: > For example, I find what CoSWID does awkward: > - Replicating code and definitions generally seems poor practice > - It excludes the possibility for encryption > - It doesn’t define what EAT needs, a signed or unsigned message that > is always a

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-15 Thread Carsten Bormann
Hi Laurence, I hope that the CBOR WG takes good note of these observations: > On 2021-12-15, at 22:28, Laurence Lundblade wrote: > > - CDDL seems just fine for protocol messages > - CDDL is missing some pieces when combining CDDL-defined protocols (name > spaces, a publication and reference

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-15 Thread Laurence Lundblade
I guess for me this thread is about the state of the art for use of CDDL. - CDDL seems just fine for protocol messages - CDDL is missing some pieces when combining CDDL-defined protocols (name spaces, a publication and reference mechanism) - CDDL is missing some pieces for specifying encryption

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-09 Thread Michael Richardson
{noticing this is not CC'ed to SUIT or SACM or RATS} Laurence Lundblade wrote: > I am observing how two different protocols that use COSE specify what the COSE payload should be. I am interested because EAT must specify this too. I noticed that they do it different: > — CoSWID goes to

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-08 Thread Laurence Lundblade
On Dec 8, 2021, at 8:08 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > > > PS: I am not sure whether the ".cbor control" is an important concept in this > conversation. It is absolutely critical and central to the topic I brought up. It is the only thing I wanted to talk about. But, happy for you to

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-08 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
, 2021 2:27 PM To: Hannes Tschofenig Cc: Laurence Lundblade ; cose ; c...@ietf.org; Henk Birkholz Subject: Re: [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD Hi Hannes, > On 2021-12-08, at 13:46, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > > Hi Carsten, > > I suspect Laurence is sending this email beca

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-08 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
: Re: [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD Hi Hannes, This is only about a tiny little part of the EAT spec and is not important for EAT publication. This is only about how to use CDDL with COSE. It’s not about interoperability or what claims there are in the EAT spec. Hannes, you

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-08 Thread Laurence Lundblade
t: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 1:37 PM > To: Hannes Tschofenig > Cc: Laurence Lundblade ; cose ; > c...@ietf.org; Henk Birkholz > Subject: Re: [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD > > On 2021-12-08, at 13:30, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: >> >> EAT by itself

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-08 Thread Carsten Bormann
nnes Tschofenig > Cc: Laurence Lundblade ; cose ; > c...@ietf.org; Henk Birkholz > Subject: Re: [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD > > On 2021-12-08, at 13:30, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: >> >> EAT by itself is not really an interoperable spec. COSE on it

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-08 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
the EAT spec. Ciao Hannes -Original Message- From: Carsten Bormann Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 1:37 PM To: Hannes Tschofenig Cc: Laurence Lundblade ; cose ; c...@ietf.org; Henk Birkholz Subject: Re: [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD On 2021-12-08, at 13:30, Hannes

Re: [COSE] [Cbor] CDDL for COSE + EAT/CWT + SUIT + CoSIWD

2021-12-08 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2021-12-08, at 13:30, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > > EAT by itself is not really an interoperable spec. COSE on its own is not > interoperable either. If I guess about the definition of "interoperable spec” you are using here, ASCII is not an interoperable spec either - you still have to