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[Pat O'Fallon via CoTyroneList]

Thanks, I’ll try it. Pat

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 19, 2019, at 16:29, Peter Kincaid via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:
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> I vaguely recall that an Donagheady Parish researcher was trying to track 
> down the Ogilby Estate records and had some luck - my fading memory thinks 
> there were in London or somewhere in England.  I believe her name was Teena 
> and her last email address was ivorie-samh...@shaw.ca.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:56 AM Pat O'Fallon via CoTyroneList 
>>  wrote:
>> Lew, Elwyn and Peter, Thanks so much for the sites. I’ve been to most of 
>> these with no luck. Do y’all know if any records survived from the Olgilbys 
>> house other than the validation?  Thanks again, Pat
>> 
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[Peter Kincaid via CoTyroneList]

I vaguely recall that an Donagheady Parish researcher was trying to track
down the Ogilby Estate records and had some luck - my fading memory thinks
there were in London or somewhere in England.  I believe her name was Teena
and her last email address was ivorie-samh...@shaw.ca.

Peter


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> Lew, Elwyn and Peter, Thanks so much for the sites. I’ve been to most of
> these with no luck. Do y’all know if any records survived from the Olgilbys
> house other than the validation?  Thanks again, Pat
>
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[elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList]

Pat,

The problem that you face is that the early records you need for your
family probably don’t exist. Either never kept or were lost. A very
common problem in Ireland. I am told that early Presbyterians in the
USA usually kept excellent records. All I can tell you is that it
Ireland they often didn’t. Or if they did keep them, there was a lot
of water damage, fires, carelessness and over enthusiastic cleaners
who chucked them out.  Taking Maghera in Co. Derry as an example, the
Presbyterian church there was burned in 1798 during the United Irish
uprising. Any records to that date were lost. The Minister had been
involved in the uprising and had to flee to the USA. (Probably a smart
move as his Kirk Session clerk, Watty Graham, was hanged on a tree
around the corner from the Presbyterian church). His successor was the
Rev Kennedy, appointed c 1802 who was there for about 35 years. By all
accounts an excellent man. However his successor, the Rev Witherow
described taking over from him c 1838 and asking for any baptism,
marriage and other important records that he might have. Rev Kennedy
said he didn’t have any. In fact he had no paperwork at all to hand
over after his 35 year career. That’s not untypical it seems. Records
were not seen as important. (By Rev Kennedy anyway).

If you are looking for Taggarts in the Liscloon area today, I’d say
there may not be any. (We know there were none in Liscloon Lower in
the 1901 census). Francis was a labourer. It might be helpful if I
explain that during the 1800s increased mechanisation on farms reduced
the need for labourers on farms. At the same time the other activity
that labourers did in their downtime  - hand loom weaving - was also
in decline being replaced by mechanized weaving in factories in
Belfast, Londonderry and elsewhere which made better quality material,
far more quickly and cheaper. So the rural labourers two main sources
of income were disappearing and they mostly left. They went to work in
Londonderry, Belfast, Scotland, England or further afield (as Francis
evidently did). So though the name Taggart is found widely across
Ireland, I have no confidence there are any of your family still in
the Liscloon area today. There might be, but somehow I doubt it.

If you are looking for Taggart descendants in Ireland, why don't you
pursue the lead I gave you regarding Francis’s daughter Sarah Taggart
(born c 1834) who married William McEgan/McKeegan? They evidently
remained in Ireland. They may have living descendants in Ireland or
the UK today. Here’s Sarah and some of her family in 1901 & 1911 in
Londonderry:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Duke_Street/1540071/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/Duke_Street/606313/

Sarah died on 30.3.1912 at 51 Duke St, Londonderry. I mentioned
previously she had a daughter Margaret born in Londonderry on
14.10.1867. In addition, I can see a son James born 19.10.1870 in
Glenties, Donegal and Joseph born same place 18.6.1874. William was
working there as a caretaker. Looking at a couple of trees on Ancestry
that have this family there also appears to have been a Florence born
1851 in Strabane and a Mary Jane who died 4.1.1944 in Londonderry. And
there may have been other children.

Mary Jane married William Pollock in St Columb’s cathedral,
Londonderry, on 31.10.1881. (Her surname there is recorded as Egans.
She had evidently dropped the “Mc” prefix as many did. (The O’ and Mc
prefixes in Irish names are optional and many dispensed with them at
times.)

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/No__3_Urban/Bennett_Street__right_hand_side_/1529289/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__3_Urban/Bennett_Street/600155/

The above family is probably the closest ancestors/relations in
Ireland you are going to find.




Elwyn


On 19/08/2019, Pat via CoTyroneList  wrote:
> Ok. That’s what I was thinking of. Thanks. I’ll be in Ireland in Derry the
> 22 of September and Belfast the 23 of September. I hope to have time to
> drive down to Liscloon area and get to the PRONI office but it’ll be tight.
> Any suggestion for the PRONI office to look threw? Or are there any
> Taggart’s/McKeevers still around Liscloon I might talk to? Thanks again for
> all the information. Pat
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:43, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList
>>  wrote:
>>
>> There are some Ogilby papers in PRONI, mainly under the holding D1550.
>> There are some leases but I don’t see anything that looks like rental
>> books if that is what you had in mind. And even if they did have them,
>> there’s not going to be a lot of detail on a labourer’s cottage.
>>
>> Elwyn
>>
>> On 19/08/2019, Pat O'Fallon via CoTyroneList
>>  wrote:
>>> Lew, Elwyn and Peter, Thanks so much for the sites. I’ve been to most of
>>> these with no luck. Do y’all know if any records survived from the
>>> 

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] James Ewing and Elizabeth Bell

[Karen Miller via CoTyroneList]

Hello Evelyn.  Thank you very much for your suggestions.  I was unaware of the 
local societies, and I feel exasperated with myself for not having thought to 
look for such groups earlier.  I will certainly check with the South Tyrone 
Family History Society.

Karen Miller
Wilmette, Illinois, USA

> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:39 AM, EVELYN CARDWELL  wrote:
> 
> Hello Karen
> 
> I suggest you contact Killeeshil/Clonaneese Historical Society, they may well 
> be able to help with the Tullyvannon family links, and maybe others.  Many of 
> their members are also members of the South Tyrone Family History Society.  
> Here is the link to the historical society -you will find contact details 
> there -  http://www.killeeshilclonaneese.org/ 
> 
> 
> Happy hunting
> 
> Evelyn Cardwell
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, 19 August 2019, 02:50:41 BST, Karen Miller via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> My thanks to Elwyn Soutter and Janet Fairless for their suggestions on how to 
> proceed in searching for James Ewing (1803-1847) married to Elizabeth Bell 
> (abt 1808-1842).  Since I know so little of their history I’ve been focusing 
> on William Ewing and his wife, Margery Hopper, two people who were closely 
> associated with my ancestors in the town of Newton Hamilton, Mifflin, 
> Pennsylvania, US. Ideally I can find an area in County Tyrone with Ewing, 
> Bell and Hopper families as a place to begin.  Elwyn pointed out that there 
> is no Tullyvannon in the Parish of Errigal Keerogue, Tyrone.  I had copied an 
> error in another researcher’s post without checking it first.  As Elwyn also 
> points out, James and Elizabeth Bell EWING left Northern Ireland by 1826, and 
> church and civil records may not exist for the time period.  
> 
> The correct locations mentioned for Denny Hopper, father-in-law of William 
> Ewing in Newton Hamilton, are birth in Armalgughey,  Civil Parish of 
> Carnteel, County Tyrone; marriage in Ballygawley, Civil Parish of Errigal 
> Keerogue, Tyrone; and then Tullyvannon, Civil Parish of Killeeshil, County 
> Tyrone, where he resided later on.  I don’t have any locations more specific 
> for his son-in-law, William Ewing, than County Tyrone.  
> 
> Thank you, Janet, for starting the idea that family members did not always 
> follow each other when they immigrated.  That was not something I had 
> considered.
> 
> Karen Miller
> Wilmette, Illinois, USA
> 
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[Pat via CoTyroneList]

Ok. That’s what I was thinking of. Thanks. I’ll be in Ireland in Derry the 22 
of September and Belfast the 23 of September. I hope to have time to drive down 
to Liscloon area and get to the PRONI office but it’ll be tight. Any suggestion 
for the PRONI office to look threw? Or are there any Taggart’s/McKeevers still 
around Liscloon I might talk to? Thanks again for all the information. Pat

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 19, 2019, at 10:43, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:
> 
> There are some Ogilby papers in PRONI, mainly under the holding D1550.
> There are some leases but I don’t see anything that looks like rental
> books if that is what you had in mind. And even if they did have them,
> there’s not going to be a lot of detail on a labourer’s cottage.
> 
> Elwyn
> 
> On 19/08/2019, Pat O'Fallon via CoTyroneList
>  wrote:
>> Lew, Elwyn and Peter, Thanks so much for the sites. I’ve been to most of
>> these with no luck. Do y’all know if any records survived from the Olgilbys
>> house other than the validation?  Thanks again, Pat
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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[elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList]

There are some Ogilby papers in PRONI, mainly under the holding D1550.
There are some leases but I don’t see anything that looks like rental
books if that is what you had in mind. And even if they did have them,
there’s not going to be a lot of detail on a labourer’s cottage.

Elwyn

On 19/08/2019, Pat O'Fallon via CoTyroneList
 wrote:
> Lew, Elwyn and Peter, Thanks so much for the sites. I’ve been to most of
> these with no luck. Do y’all know if any records survived from the Olgilbys
> house other than the validation?  Thanks again, Pat
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Taggart/McKeever: Donagheady Parish Presbyterian Records

[elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList]

The PRONI guide to church records make no mention of any earlier
records. Their catalogue was compiled in the 1980s, and is pretty
accurate. (Where there are earlier records held somewhere else, it
usually says something like “in local custody” or held by the
“Presbyterian Historical Society.”).

The Kirk Session clerk’s contact details are easily found from a
Google search and the church is also on Facebook, so you could try
contacting either of them to ask, but I’d be quite surprised if there
are any records not already acknowledged in the public domain.

https://en-gb.facebook.com/donemanapc/


Elwyn

On 19/08/2019, Liz Fitzgerald via CoTyroneList
 wrote:
> Are there any earlier records for Donemana Church anywhere?  Thank you.
>
> 
> From: CoTyroneList  on behalf of
> Len Swindley via CoTyroneList 
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM
> To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List 
> Cc: Len Swindley ; c...@att.ne 
> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Taggart/McKeever: Donagheady Parish
> Presbyterian Records
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> We are enjoying Elwyn’s contributions to CTI
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/ and heartily thank him for his time,
> interest and expertise in attending to subscribers’ queries. Many thanks
> Elwyn.
>
>
>
> Re. Pat’s query concerning Presbyterian records for Donagheady Parish: there
> is a a very large collection of transcribed registers and other records
> covering the three Presbyterian congregations within the parish on this
> website: First Donagheady, Second Donagheady, Donemana and additionally
> Bready Reformed Presbyterian Church. The Presbyterian population in the
> parish was large where they held an absolute majority. Donagheady
> Presbyterian records available freely online via CTI are:
>
>
>
> FIRST DONAGHEADY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
>
> First Donagheady Presbyterian Marriages 1845-1928
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/1st-Donagheady-Presbyterian-Church-Marriages-1845-1928.html
>
> First Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1857
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady1.html
>
> Opening of New First Donagheady Presbyterian Church 1870
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady3.htm
>
> First Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1870
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2.html
>
>
>
> SECOND DONAGHEADY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
>
> Second Donagheady Presbyterian Baptisms 1838-1901
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/births/donagheady2.html
>
> Second Donagheady Presbyterian Marriages 1838-45
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheadymar1838-45.html
>
> Second Donagheady Presbyterian Marriages 1845-1926
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheadymar1845+.html
>
> Second Donagheady Presbyterian Elders & Dates of Ordination 1744-1903
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd.html
>
> Second Presbyterian Church Opening of New Church 1856
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd5.html
>
> Second Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1863
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd2.html
>
> Second Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1866
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd3.html
>
> Second Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1870
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd4.html
>
> Donagheady Presbyterian Ruling Elders and Commissioners 1620-1700
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheadyelders.html
>
> Donagheady Presbyterian Churches: A Brief History and Photos
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churches/donagheadypresbyterian.html
>
>
>
> DONEMANA PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
>
> Donemana Presbyterian Baptisms 1861-89
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemanapresbreg.html
>
> Donemana Presbyterian Marriages 1845-1926
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/donemana.html
>
> Donemana Presbyterian Miscellaneous Records
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemana.html
>
> Donemana Presbyterian Financial Statements 1866
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemana2.html
>
> Donemana Financial Presbyterian Statements 1870
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemana2.html
>
>
>
> BREADY REFORMED PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
>
> Bready Reformed Presbyterian Baptisms 1866-88
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/bready.html
>
> Bready Reformed Presbyterian Church Marriages 1847-62
>
> https://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/bready.html
>
>
>
> It is a formidable collection contributed by numerous descendants of
> Donagheady emigrants to Canada, U.S. and Australia. I trust that there are
> researchers who have benefited from this great collection.
>
> Regards,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 10
>
>
>
> From: elwyn soutter via
> 

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Taggart/McKeever: Donagheady Parish Presbyterian Records

[Liz Fitzgerald via CoTyroneList]

Are there any earlier records for Donemana Church anywhere?  Thank you.


From: CoTyroneList  on behalf of Len 
Swindley via CoTyroneList 
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 11:56 AM
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Presbyterian Records


Hello All,

We are enjoying Elwyn’s contributions to CTI https://www.cotyroneireland.com/ 
and heartily thank him for his time, interest and expertise in attending to 
subscribers’ queries. Many thanks Elwyn.



Re. Pat’s query concerning Presbyterian records for Donagheady Parish: there is 
a a very large collection of transcribed registers and other records covering 
the three Presbyterian congregations within the parish on this website: First 
Donagheady, Second Donagheady, Donemana and additionally Bready Reformed 
Presbyterian Church. The Presbyterian population in the parish was large where 
they held an absolute majority. Donagheady Presbyterian records available 
freely online via CTI are:



FIRST DONAGHEADY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH

First Donagheady Presbyterian Marriages 1845-1928

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/1st-Donagheady-Presbyterian-Church-Marriages-1845-1928.html

First Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1857

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady1.html

Opening of New First Donagheady Presbyterian Church 1870

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady3.htm

First Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1870

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2.html



SECOND DONAGHEADY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH

Second Donagheady Presbyterian Baptisms 1838-1901

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/births/donagheady2.html

Second Donagheady Presbyterian Marriages 1838-45

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheadymar1838-45.html

Second Donagheady Presbyterian Marriages 1845-1926

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheadymar1845+.html

Second Donagheady Presbyterian Elders & Dates of Ordination 1744-1903

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd.html

Second Presbyterian Church Opening of New Church 1856

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd5.html

Second Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1863

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd2.html

Second Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1866

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd3.html

Second Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1870

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd4.html

Donagheady Presbyterian Ruling Elders and Commissioners 1620-1700

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheadyelders.html

Donagheady Presbyterian Churches: A Brief History and Photos

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churches/donagheadypresbyterian.html



DONEMANA PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH

Donemana Presbyterian Baptisms 1861-89

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemanapresbreg.html

Donemana Presbyterian Marriages 1845-1926

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/donemana.html

Donemana Presbyterian Miscellaneous Records

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemana.html

Donemana Presbyterian Financial Statements 1866

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemana2.html

Donemana Financial Presbyterian Statements 1870

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemana2.html



BREADY REFORMED PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH

Bready Reformed Presbyterian Baptisms 1866-88

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/bready.html

Bready Reformed Presbyterian Church Marriages 1847-62

https://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/bready.html



It is a formidable collection contributed by numerous descendants of Donagheady 
emigrants to Canada, U.S. and Australia. I trust that there are researchers who 
have benefited from this great collection.

Regards,

Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia









Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList
Sent: Monday, 19 August 2019 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Taggart/McKeever



Pat,

One item I forgot to add was that Francis’s daughter Sarah Taggart
(who married William McEgan or McKeegan in 1854) had at least 1 child.
I noticed the birth of a daughter Margaret McKeegan to those parents,
in Londonderry on 14.10.1867. There may well have been others between
1854 and 1863 but those years are before the start of statutory birth
registration and so won’t be in the statutory records.

Good luck with your search anyway.


Elwyn


On 19/08/2019, Pat via CoTyroneList  wrote:
> Elwyn,
> Francis and his wife Mary and daughters emigrated to US in 1880. Mary died 6
> months later and Francis died 28 September 1883. Margaret b 1854 died in NYC
> 10 November 1906. Jane died 8 October 1881 in NYC. They were both
> 

[CoTyroneMailingList] Thanks

[Pat O'Fallon via CoTyroneList]

Lew, Elwyn and Peter, Thanks so much for the sites. I’ve been to most of these 
with no luck. Do y’all know if any records survived from the Olgilbys house 
other than the validation?  Thanks again, Pat

Sent from my iPad


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] James Ewing and Elizabeth Bell

[EVELYN CARDWELL via CoTyroneList]

 Hello Karen
I suggest you contact Killeeshil/Clonaneese Historical Society, they may well 
be able to help with the Tullyvannon family links, and maybe others.  Many of 
their members are also members of the South Tyrone Family History Society.  
Here is the link to the historical society -you will find contact details there 
-  http://www.killeeshilclonaneese.org/
Happy hunting
Evelyn Cardwell





On Monday, 19 August 2019, 02:50:41 BST, Karen Miller via CoTyroneList 
 wrote:  
 
 My thanks to Elwyn Soutter and Janet Fairless for their suggestions on how to 
proceed in searching for James Ewing (1803-1847) married to Elizabeth Bell (abt 
1808-1842).  Since I know so little of their history I’ve been focusing on 
William Ewing and his wife, Margery Hopper, two people who were closely 
associated with my ancestors in the town of Newton Hamilton, Mifflin, 
Pennsylvania, US. Ideally I can find an area in County Tyrone with Ewing, Bell 
and Hopper families as a place to begin.  Elwyn pointed out that there is no 
Tullyvannon in the Parish of Errigal Keerogue, Tyrone.  I had copied an error 
in another researcher’s post without checking it first.  As Elwyn also points 
out, James and Elizabeth Bell EWING left Northern Ireland by 1826, and church 
and civil records may not exist for the time period.  

The correct locations mentioned for Denny Hopper, father-in-law of William 
Ewing in Newton Hamilton, are birth in Armalgughey,  Civil Parish of Carnteel, 
County Tyrone; marriage in Ballygawley, Civil Parish of Errigal Keerogue, 
Tyrone; and then Tullyvannon, Civil Parish of Killeeshil, County Tyrone, where 
he resided later on.  I don’t have any locations more specific for his 
son-in-law, William Ewing, than County Tyrone.  

Thank you, Janet, for starting the idea that family members did not always 
follow each other when they immigrated.  That was not something I had 
considered.

Karen Miller
Wilmette, Illinois, USA



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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Taggart/McKeever: Donagheady Parish Presbyterian Records

[Len Swindley via CoTyroneList]

Hello All,
We are enjoying Elwyn’s contributions to CTI https://www.cotyroneireland.com/ 
and heartily thank him for his time, interest and expertise in attending to 
subscribers’ queries. Many thanks Elwyn.

Re. Pat’s query concerning Presbyterian records for Donagheady Parish: there is 
a a very large collection of transcribed registers and other records covering 
the three Presbyterian congregations within the parish on this website: First 
Donagheady, Second Donagheady, Donemana and additionally Bready Reformed 
Presbyterian Church. The Presbyterian population in the parish was large where 
they held an absolute majority. Donagheady Presbyterian records available 
freely online via CTI are:

FIRST DONAGHEADY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
First Donagheady Presbyterian Marriages 1845-1928
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/1st-Donagheady-Presbyterian-Church-Marriages-1845-1928.html
First Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1857
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady1.html
Opening of New First Donagheady Presbyterian Church 1870
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady3.htm
First Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1870
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2.html

SECOND DONAGHEADY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
Second Donagheady Presbyterian Baptisms 1838-1901
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/births/donagheady2.html
Second Donagheady Presbyterian Marriages 1838-45
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheadymar1838-45.html
Second Donagheady Presbyterian Marriages 1845-1926
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheadymar1845+.html
Second Donagheady Presbyterian Elders & Dates of Ordination 1744-1903
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd.html
Second Presbyterian Church Opening of New Church 1856
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd5.html
Second Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1863
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd2.html
Second Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1866
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd3.html
Second Donagheady Presbyterian Financial Statement 1870
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheady2nd4.html
Donagheady Presbyterian Ruling Elders and Commissioners 1620-1700
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donagheadyelders.html
Donagheady Presbyterian Churches: A Brief History and Photos
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churches/donagheadypresbyterian.html

DONEMANA PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
Donemana Presbyterian Baptisms 1861-89
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemanapresbreg.html
Donemana Presbyterian Marriages 1845-1926
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/donemana.html
Donemana Presbyterian Miscellaneous Records
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemana.html
Donemana Presbyterian Financial Statements 1866
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemana2.html
Donemana Financial Presbyterian Statements 1870
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/donemana2.html

BREADY REFORMED PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH
Bready Reformed Presbyterian Baptisms 1866-88
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/bready.html
Bready Reformed Presbyterian Church Marriages 1847-62
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/marriages/bready.html

It is a formidable collection contributed by numerous descendants of Donagheady 
emigrants to Canada, U.S. and Australia. I trust that there are researchers who 
have benefited from this great collection.
Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia




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From: elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList
Sent: Monday, 19 August 2019 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Taggart/McKeever

Pat,

One item I forgot to add was that Francis’s daughter Sarah Taggart
(who married William McEgan or McKeegan in 1854) had at least 1 child.
I noticed the birth of a daughter Margaret McKeegan to those parents,
in Londonderry on 14.10.1867. There may well have been others between
1854 and 1863 but those years are before the start of statutory birth
registration and so won’t be in the statutory records.

Good luck with your search anyway.


Elwyn


On 19/08/2019, Pat via CoTyroneList  wrote:
> Elwyn,
> Francis and his wife Mary and daughters emigrated to US in 1880. Mary died 6
> months later and Francis died 28 September 1883. Margaret b 1854 died in NYC
> 10 November 1906. Jane died 8 October 1881 in NYC. They were both
> seamstress. I will be in Ireland up that way on 22/23 September. I’ve been
> to the PRONI in 2014 but didn’t find anything except that Francis parents
> could be William and Anne Irwin. Can’t find anything about when where they
> were married. I think Williams parents were Francis and Dorothy Taggart but
> no proof. Thanks for the help. Pay
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 18, 2019, at 17:34, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList
>>  wrote:
>>
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