Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Morrisons of Loughterush townland (kilskeery)

Rick, I am a descendant of the Morrows from Armagh and unlikely to include the Morrows you mention. In your search, I would posit a typo(s) along the line somewhere. Many people at that time were not literate so others wrote down what they thought they heard. Irish accents and regional nuances

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Index to the Tithe Applotment Book for Donaghmore Parish, Co. Donegal

Len, (greetings from Adelaide) You say that the site doesn't accept Table format - but your first email DID have the table format and made for easy cross-comparison of names. I use Thunderbird email client. Thanks for your efforts Gordon Wilkinson (Wilkinsons from Tyrone) On 20/07/2018

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 1800s

Elwyn, The 'new' map of Europe would probably be out of date anyway, what with the rapid changes of country boundaries at the time! Interesting to note that school inspectors are not now used - at least in Australia - although I do recall their presence right up to early high school. A

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Spelling in Days of Yore!

Hi Jim & Listers, A welcome warning. I may have mentioned before that I found an O'Hara spelt as Harrow. and McBeath as McBeth/McBith/Macbeth ... MaCoulough is another one rendered variously. There are several examples in my ancestry. Need to think laterally when searching. ;-) Gordon On

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Irish Bally---ony

Hi Lyn, another of my mother's sayings from my Autograph Book: "/You may kiss beneath the mistletoe, or kiss beneath a rose, / /but the proper place to kiss a girl is just beneath her nose."/ //Gordon On 15/01/2019 8:28 am, EVELYN CARDWELL via CoTyroneList wrote: William Carleton was a local

[CoTyroneMailingList] Irish Bally---ony

Hi Listers, As a kid in Belfast, I was intrigued by so many Irish place names starting in Bally... Those who know tell me it's derived from the Gaelic 'Baile na', meaning 'place of'. My mother would recite with a smile, the popular ditty of the time: /If you weren't so Ballymena with your

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Maps - added Tyrone - Number of British Families 1622 Survey

Yes ... 'Interesting'. I too use Chrome and have no problems. Clicking the link, I find myself at and running down the list to item #11 is "Tyrone - Number of British Families 1622 Survey" which takes me to

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Canadian Exiles to the Australian Colonies 1839-40

The mention of the barque /HMS/ /Buffalo/ grabbed my attention. It's famous in Adelaide for bringing the first settlers here in 1836 (only free settlers in South Australia) and there's a grounded replica at Glenelg which has been a restaurant for many years. There wasn't much space on the

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CTI's New Look for Mobile Devices

HiJim, great move! But who pays for the hiring of the programmer? Do you need any help? Gordon On 20/03/2019 9:42 pm, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList wrote: Hello Listers - First, thanks so much for your continued support! Without YOU there is no CTI! Over the last several years as smartphone

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 315, Issue 1

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Calls for memorial to Dungannon workhouse dead

Jim, Thanks for sharing this. A poignant reminder of what life could be like barely 150 years ago. I haven't found if any of my Dungannon ancestors were in workhouses but I do have an ancestor who was matron of a fever hospital in Londonderry. She died after only 2 years in the job. Life was

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Every Name Index - FULLY COMPLETED

Hi Jim, much appreciated. Not to mention the enormous effort that Jim has put in coordinating this! Thanks Jim. Mind you, there are others in the background too who are too shy to confess their contributions. :) Gordon On 22/08/2019 5:11 am, Jim McKane wrote: A small but

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Duffins in 1826 Ballyclog

HI Peggy, The first column is just a convenient number. A/R/P columns stand for acres, roods, perches - the area of the block of land/farm. 1 acre=4 roods=160 perches. A perch is just under 35 m^2 . and there are about 2½ acres to the hectare. The £/s/D are the old currency:

[CoTyroneMailingList] A Query on the Ulster Plantation - a late arrival?

Hi Listers, I hope someone can add to my understanding of the Ulster Plantation. Family legend has it that my great-great grandfather, John Wilkinson (~1802-1878) was a plantationer from York, Yorkshire. He settled in Coolkill townland, near Eglish, about 10kn SSW from Dungannon (I have the

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Walker Canoney

Rhonda, there's a host of stuff on Australiana in Trove which is available online from the NLA (National Library Aust, Canberra). Maybe worth a look? Gordon On 8/08/2019 10:11 am, Rhonda via CoTyroneList wrote: My Great Grandmother Charlotte Elizabeth Walker born c1857 daughter of William

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Emigration to New Zealand

Hi Roberta, Did settler ships call into Australia before arriving in NZ? Maybe this will help: My wife's great-great-grandfather, R.R.T. Davis & family arrived in NZ in Jan 1840 on the /Aurora./ From what I can find it appears, from travel times, , to have sailed directly from London

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Emigration to New Zealand

Roberta, further to my earlier response below, I can now confirm that the /Aurora/ at least, sailed directly to NZ. <http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-Bre02Whit-t1-body-d1-d1-d7.html>. Gordon On 7/08/2019 10:55 am, Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList wrote: Hi Roberta, Did s

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Not necessary to reply to my TEST message........

Yes, Len, there are lots of McCulloch/McCullough/McCullagh/... in the area. My McCullagh's come from near Portadown in Armagh. A stone's throw away from Tyrone. I've even found their farm-land, thanks to Mr Griffith. Gordon On 1/10/2019 7:53 pm, Len Swindley via CoTyroneList wrote: Hello

[CoTyroneMailingList] ISAANZ 24 conference (Irish Studies in Australia and New Zealand)

Hi Listers, I only became aware of this conference this morning. There is only a little time left to register so will probably appeal to the Irish Diaspora in Oz. It also shows the interest 'Down Under' in Irish heritage. Gordon /From 9 to 12 December this year, the ISAANZ 24 conference

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Altedesert Parish C of I Records and Pomeroy Presbyterian Records

Peter, Sometimes serendipity reveals a link. Several years ago I was viewing microfiche copies of Irish Censuses made available through the local (Adelaide) LDS library. There was a small cost, but the search was worth it. After locating and finding what I wanted, I happened to flick over a

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Retrieval of Irish archive lost in 1922 fire

Oh the tragedy of war! Visiting Ankor Wat, Cambodia, some years ago I was intrigued by white numbers and letters painted on masonry blocks scattered about the magnificent ruins, some in neat piles others disordered. On enquiring I found that years earlier, when working on restoration of the

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Travelling Extraordinary 1835: Mr. Hood of Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone

Quite a feat. In similar vein: when we sailed to Oz in 1948 it took 4 weeks. Recently a friend mentioned a cruise from here to Southampton which took 7 weeks! (Mind you, the cruise ship went via the Cape of Good Hope and not the Suez Canal as we did.) On 21/10/2019 10:39 am, Len Swindley via

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] The Murder of Widow McCullagh , Rooskey, Gortin, Bodoney Lower Parish, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland

cc Chris Morrow Hi Len, That's one way to resolve an interest in the property, but sadly a lose-lose outcome for both! My McCullough/McUllough/McCullogh/McCulloch/McCullagh/McCullugh/McCallow/MacCulloch/MacCullow/MacCollough/MacCullagh and now McCullow ;-) ancestors come from nearby Armagh,

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - George Fulton, Newtownstewart, Co. Tyrone, Army Deserter, 1780

Yes Ron, during the Irish wars of the mid 18thC there were many deserters who joined the other side! It was a 2-way exchange too. Depended on food, wages and the reliability of being fed, clothed and housed than a particular loyalty. Gordon On 1/12/2019 8:51 pm, Ron McCoy via CoTyroneList

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriages and Death Announcements

Try: Green Park, Goldpark, Donore Park. Gordon On 22/11/2019 8:45 am, Liam Ó Cuinn via CoTyroneList wrote: Páirc an Fhomhair, Páirc an Óir, Páirc an Uabhair -- _ Nereda & Gordon Wilkinson, Hyde Park, South Australia. Web: www.ozemail.com.au/~neredon

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Moy School, Clonfeacle Parish, Co. Tyrone, Examination Results 1808

Thanks, Len. However, although my ancestors came from the area, I don't see any of their names :-(. All brawn and no brains. Gordon On 23/09/2019 8:34 am, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList wrote: Moy School, Clonfeacle Parish, Co. Tyrone, Examination Results 1808

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Bankruptcy - John Knox, Insolvent Debtor, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland 1817

No wonder it was quiet lately - Len was holding back until after the school hols. :-) On 10/10/2019 8:37 pm, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList wrote: Bankruptcy - John Knox, Insolvent Debtor, Co. Tyrone, Northern Ireland 1817 Another great file

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Townlands, Civil Parishes, Baronies & Dioceses Maps of Co. Donegal, Ireland

These OS maps are great, Elwyn, but I generally use the Griffith maps from mid-19thC, which are probably based on the OS maps anyway, but are in colour!!! and one can ghost the old onto the modern maps with the slider. I also find them slightly easier to use.

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Lifford Bridge, Lifford, Co. Donegal

A curious custom indeed. Thanks Jim. Sent from Gordon's iPad - nere...@gmail.com  > On 14 Jan 2020, at 9:52 pm, Jim McKane via CoTyroneList > wrote: > > Lifford Bridge, Lifford, Co. Donegal > > > Courtesy of the Monreagh Heritage

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Wills of David & George MacGhee

Hi Len, As you will know, a surprising number of US presidents can trace their ancestry to Co. Tyrone. Gordon. On 18/04/2020 2:48 pm, Len Swindley via CoTyroneList wrote: Hello Listers, This is interesting; there are two surviving Maghee graves in Leckpatrick Old Burial Ground, Ballymagorry,

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] How do you pronounce "Ye" ??

Well Jim, I like that explanation. It recalls to some extent the background of the /séimhiú /or lenition in Irish Gaeli/c - //Gaeilge/ - a very, very old language. The 'h' is not part of the Irish alphabet, which helps to explain in part, the difficulty in pronunciation of Irish Gaelic. In

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] I'm trying to find my great grandfather Felix John Quinn

Re birth dates, In researching the family history, I have noticed, at least in the case of notable ancestors, that the date of death is often known precisely but birth dates are not - only years are available and even then one must be circumspect. Apparently one's birth was unimportant as

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] New Content - Townland Records

Rick, My guess is that they could have been part of the plantation of Ulster in the 17thC. I suspect(based on my surname) that my ancestors may have been part of that event too but have not been able to find any records of who arrived from where and when. Any help (thanks Len S. for your

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Dunplemore, Londonderry

Jim, that's what I thought, - a misprint. I have ancestors who lived in Templemore, (one a bookkeeper in Derry City), in the 1800s. Gordon On 28/05/2020 9:49 am, James McKane via CoTyroneList wrote: Could it be Templemore??? Jim McKane Kitchener, Ontario On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 7:47 PM Don

[CoTyroneMailingList] "Full Age"

A simple query. In 1850, did the term 'full age' for marriage mean, 18 or more, or 21+? I've always assumed one to be 18 to be legally wed without parental permission, but maybe 'full age' meant the 'age of majority'? Gordon -- _ Nereda & Gordon Wilkinson,

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] age difference

Don, don't rely on 'ages' to infer 'correct' dob. Birth dates were not generally recorded with accuracy, except on actual birth records, nor were birthdays celebrated much, as too many children didn't live long enough for it to matter. Many people just didn't know their year of birth or the

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Message to Don Quigly, re: search for military records of ancestor

Such a lovely spot, Penetang (for short), and nearby Midland, with lots of naval history too. A beautiful part of Georgian Bay to be laid to rest. Gordon. On 2/06/2020 5:30 am, Darlene Mulligan via CoTyroneList wrote: I have no idea where Don Quigley lives, but if he lives outside of Ontario,

[CoTyroneMailingList] Bob the Protestant Horse.

We've mentioned "Bob, the Protestant Horse" by Michael McDonald. Once I started to read it, I couldn't but it down. It is a humourous, whimsical and very true description of Irish rural life in the 1950s. Loved his dry Irish humour. I can vouch that what the author says is true, every word! I

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

Hi Elwyn, I wonder if 'your' farmer bought a Fordson tractor, as that was the franchise P p/l had, and whether they bought from dad as he sold mainly in Down and Armagh? On one occasion I recall standing at the bottom of a rather steep field (dressed in shorts like the lad in the cover

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

Linda, I got the Amazon version for $3.99 (AUD) and downloaded to my iPad. Gordon On 25/06/2020 7:27 am, Marion via CoTyroneList wrote: ‘Bob was a Protestant Horse’ is a book which you will find on Amazon. You can buy the kindle version and download it. JSTOR is where I found the journal

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

/2020 10:02 am, Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList wrote: Elwyn, Don't for one moment think Handfasting is obsolete. My Irish cousin (of mature years) 'Handfasted' a few years ago in true Druid fashion to his 3rd wife. Although married in Oz they traveled to the UK to visit Liverpool relative

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

Elwyn, Don't for one moment think Handfasting is obsolete. My Irish cousin (of mature years) 'Handfasted' a few years ago in true Druid fashion to his 3rd wife. Although married in Oz they traveled to the UK to visit Liverpool relatives (from Armagh) and for their Handfasting. I have the