Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867)

2019-12-08 Thread Tom Chambers via CoTyroneList
Len, Thanks for the information on this John Chambers.  My 3rd great grandfather John Chambers was born in 1796, so it is possible. I have tried to guess at some John Chambers that lived in the Newtownstewart area so see if they were relatives.  There was one that died in Lifford 11 May 1824.  But I have had no  information to make him a relative. The other guess that I am still playing with is a birth and baptism record for a John Chambers born to John Chambers (1772-1831) and Lydia Brockbridge (1773-).  Birth for this John Chambers of 20 Apr 1796 with baptism 17 Jul 1796 at Spitalfields Christ Church,Stepney,London,England.   This wild guess is based on the following, plus the birth year matches. My 2nd great grandfather Thomas Chambers (first son of John and Martha Chambers) named their first daughterLydia Anna Martha Chambers.  Martha would have been her grandmother.  Anna was her mother.  Then if my guess is right, Lydia would have been her great grandmother.  To my knowledge, the name Lydia does not appear anywhere else.It is just a guess waiting for another piece of information to confirm it. Thanks again for keeping me in mind. Tom From: Len SwindleySent: Sunday, December 8, 2019 6:34 PMTo: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List; Tom Chambers; elwyn soutterSubject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867) Tom, As usual I spent Saturday at the Family History Centre (purely in the pursuit of articles of interest to CTI subscribers) and located a record that seems related to your research: LDS FHL Film 258516Tyrone Volunteers (these were local militias) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Volunteers_(18th_century) ARDSTRAW CAVALRYJohn Chambers, Captain, enlisted October 31, 1796 Perhaps this another generation to add to your family tree? Regards,Len Swindley, Melbourne, AustraliaSent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Tom Chambers via CoTyroneListSent: Wednesday, 4 December 2019 3:22 AMTo: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing ListCc: tchamber...@gmail.comSubject: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867) I would eventually like to write a “Born  ,died in Tyrone” for my 3rd great grandfather John Chambers (1796-1867). I already have some good information about him.  He was a Linen Merchant, lived on Upper Street (now Main Street) in Newtownstewart and for a time owned and ran the corn mill in Milltown, just outside of Newtownstewart (thanks, Len)   Also he married Martha Maclear, sister of Sir Thomas Maclear who was just commemorated for his work in astronomy.  I have found lots of information on their three children: Thomas, Mary Ann, and George some of which I have posted on this site. I do not know where John was born.  I have some information to formulate a hunch that he came from the London area.   But nothing concrete.  There were Chambers in the Newtownstewart, Strabane, area I but can not find a link.I do not know when or where John and Martha got married.  They were Presbyterian, and in fact Martha’s father was the Rev James T. Maclear.   John and Martha are buried in the cemetery at the top of the hill on Main Street in Newtownstewart.  Their first son, Thomas was born in 1821.  So, that narrows it down. Any help finding these two things would be appreciated. By the way I have never found anything that says what church the Rev James T. Maclear was at.   Maybe at that time it was just a meeting house? Thanks for your help.  Tom Chambers   

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867)

2019-12-08 Thread Tom Chambers via CoTyroneList
Thanks, Len Yes I will definitely report any findings from Valerie at PHS.  Sounds like both you and Elwyn are quite familiar with her. Tom From: Len SwindleySent: Sunday, December 8, 2019 6:12 PMTo: tchamber...@gmail.com; elwyn soutterCc: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing ListSubject: RE: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867) Hello Tom, Hope you are successful with your query to Valerie Adams; have been fortunate to attend two of her lectures; she headed up the church records team at PRONI and was always interested in gleaning the location of “unknown” and unrecorded records – just so knowledgeable. Let us know of your success or otherwise; there is always new data awaiting discovery.All the best,Len Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: tchamber...@gmail.comSent: Saturday, 7 December 2019 9:59 AMTo: elwyn soutter; Len SwindleyCc: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing ListSubject: RE: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867) Len, Elwyn Thank you so much for your time spent to track down the information I am looking for.  I sent an email to the Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast.  We’ll see what comes from it.  I will post back to CTI when I hear from them. Tom From: elwyn soutterSent: Friday, December 6, 2019 5:44 AMTo: Len SwindleyCc: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List; Tom ChambersSubject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867) Tom/Len,Much obliged to Len for looking for Rev Maclear. I would still recommend contacting the PBS in Belfast. The lady likely to deal with your enquiry is Valerie Adams. She’s very knowledgeable - she used to be the head of PRONI - and there’s not much she doesn’t know about Presbyterian Ministers. In addition to the main published guides Len has used, sometimes referred to as FASTI, she has notebooks with additional information, including all the various seceder branches of Presbyterianism. She might have something, and if she doesn’t she’ll probably be interested in him because she is trying to ensure there is information on every Minister who has ever had a congregation in Ireland. Even from very early times (ie mid 1600s) a Presbytery had to approve the appointment of a new Minister, and so there are pretty good records of most of them. But I am sure there may be small gaps. The Rev Maclear should have had a degree, and he would almost certainly have obtained that in Scotland. (Presbyterians couldn’t obtain a theology degree in Ireland till the mid 1800s. Trinity was the only College/University in Ireland then and you had to be Church of Ireland to study theology there). So Presbyterians went to Scotland. In the 1700s and early 1800s there were 4 universities in Scotland: St Andrews, Aberdeen, Glasgow & Edinburgh. They keep pretty good records of their old graduates and you could contact them to see if any has a record of him attending or matriculating. I have done that in the past with success. It’s worth noting that not everyone matriculated. There was an additional fee for matriculation. Some couldn’t or wouldn’t afford it and so just did the course, which was generally acceptable in those times. Even in medicine it wasn’t mandatory to pass an exam until the mid 1800s. Just having attended the course was considered sufficient to enable you to practice, which is fairly thought provoking. It was enough to have been there!  Elwyn On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 at 08:21, Len Swindley <len_swind...@hotmail.com> wrote:Elwyn & Tom, Referring to “History of Congregations in the Presbyterian in Ireland 1610-1982” (Presbyterian Historical Society , Belfast, 1982) and its separate index also published by the PHS & the Ulster Historical Foundation, 1996), I am unable to locate an entry for the Rev. Thomas T. Maclear (or variant). So then went to “The Seceders in Ireland with Annals of Their Congregations – Rev. David Stewart (Presbyterian Historical Society, 1950), and again there are no references to him. The Seceders joined the General Assembly in 1840 to form the Presbyterian Church in Ireland. The Presbyterian Churches of Newtownstewart (2) and Ardstraw Parish (a total of seven) are covered in the above works, but sadly there are no references to the Rev. Maclear. A point that may be of interest to researchers is that Anglicans (Church of Ireland) went to Church, Catholics attended the Chapel and Presbyterians gathered in the Meeting House. Regards,Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia   Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: elwyn soutter via CoTyroneListSent: Friday, 6 December 2019 6:10 AMTo: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing ListCc: elwyn soutterSubject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867) Tom, If you contact the Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast, they are likely to have records on the Rev MaClear which should tell you where he served as Minister (as well as other information about his life). http://www.presbyterianhistoryireland.com The term “Meeting House” was how many Presbyterians described their church. It didn’t mean it was

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867)

2019-12-08 Thread Len Swindley via CoTyroneList
Tom,

As usual I spent Saturday at the Family History Centre (purely in the pursuit 
of articles of interest to CTI subscribers) and located a record that seems 
related to your research:

LDS FHL Film 258516
Tyrone Volunteers (these were local militias) 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Volunteers_(18th_century)

ARDSTRAW CAVALRY
John Chambers, Captain, enlisted October 31, 1796

Perhaps this another generation to add to your family tree?

Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia




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Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867)

I would eventually like to write a “Born  ,died in Tyrone” for my 3rd great 
grandfather John Chambers (1796-1867).

I already have some good information about him.  He was a Linen Merchant, lived 
on Upper Street (now Main Street) in Newtownstewart and for a time owned and 
ran the corn mill in Milltown, just outside of Newtownstewart (thanks, Len)   
Also he married Martha Maclear, sister of Sir Thomas Maclear who was just 
commemorated for his work in astronomy.  I have found lots of information on 
their three children: Thomas, Mary Ann, and George some of which I have posted 
on this site.

1) I do not know where John was born.  I have some information to formulate a 
hunch that he came from the London area.   But nothing concrete.  There were 
Chambers in the Newtownstewart, Strabane, area I but can not find a link.
2) I do not know when or where John and Martha got married.  They were 
Presbyterian, and in fact Martha’s father was the Rev James T. Maclear.   John 
and Martha are buried in the cemetery at the top of the hill on Main Street in 
Newtownstewart.  Their first son, Thomas was born in 1821.  So, that narrows it 
down.

Any help finding these two things would be appreciated.

By the way I have never found anything that says what church the Rev James T. 
Maclear was at.   Maybe at that time it was just a meeting house?

Thanks for your help. 

Tom Chambers


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867)

2019-12-08 Thread Len Swindley via CoTyroneList
Hello Tom,

Hope you are successful with your query to Valerie Adams; have been fortunate 
to attend two of her lectures; she headed up the church records team at PRONI 
and was always interested in gleaning the location of “unknown” and unrecorded 
records – just so knowledgeable.

Let us know of your success or otherwise; there is always new data awaiting 
discovery.
All the best,
Len

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Len, Elwyn

Thank you so much for your time spent to track down the information I am 
looking for.
I sent an email to the Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast.  We’ll see 
what comes from it.  I will post back to CTI when I hear from them.

Tom

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Tom/Len,
Much obliged to Len for looking for Rev Maclear.

I would still recommend contacting the PBS in Belfast. The lady likely to deal 
with your enquiry is Valerie Adams. She’s very knowledgeable - she used to be 
the head of PRONI - and there’s not much she doesn’t know about Presbyterian 
Ministers. In addition to the main published guides Len has used, sometimes 
referred to as FASTI, she has notebooks with additional information, including 
all the various seceder branches of Presbyterianism. She might have something, 
and if she doesn’t she’ll probably be interested in him because she is trying 
to ensure there is information on every Minister who has ever had a 
congregation in Ireland. Even from very early times (ie mid 1600s) a Presbytery 
had to approve the appointment of a new Minister, and so there are pretty good 
records of most of them. But I am sure there may be small gaps.

The Rev Maclear should have had a degree, and he would almost certainly have 
obtained that in Scotland. (Presbyterians couldn’t obtain a theology degree in 
Ireland till the mid 1800s. Trinity was the only College/University in Ireland 
then and you had to be Church of Ireland to study theology there). So 
Presbyterians went to Scotland. In the 1700s and early 1800s there were 4 
universities in Scotland: St Andrews, Aberdeen, Glasgow & Edinburgh. They keep 
pretty good records of their old graduates and you could contact them to see if 
any has a record of him attending or matriculating. I have done that in the 
past with success. It’s worth noting that not everyone matriculated. There was 
an additional fee for matriculation. Some couldn’t or wouldn’t afford it and so 
just did the course, which was generally acceptable in those times. Even in 
medicine it wasn’t mandatory to pass an exam until the mid 1800s. Just having 
attended the course was considered sufficient to enable you to practice, which 
is fairly thought provoking. It was enough to have been there!


Elwyn

On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 at 08:21, Len Swindley 
mailto:len_swind...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Elwyn & Tom,

Referring to “History of Congregations in the Presbyterian in Ireland 
1610-1982” (Presbyterian Historical Society , Belfast, 1982) and its separate 
index also published by the PHS & the Ulster Historical Foundation, 1996), I am 
unable to locate an entry for the Rev. Thomas T. Maclear (or variant). So then 
went to “The Seceders in Ireland with Annals of Their Congregations – Rev. 
David Stewart (Presbyterian Historical Society, 1950), and again there are no 
references to him. The Seceders joined the General Assembly in 1840 to form the 
Presbyterian Church in Ireland.

The Presbyterian Churches of Newtownstewart (2) and Ardstraw Parish (a total of 
seven) are covered in the above works, but sadly there are no references to the 
Rev. Maclear.

A point that may be of interest to researchers is that Anglicans (Church of 
Ireland) went to Church, Catholics attended the Chapel and Presbyterians 
gathered in the Meeting House.

Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia



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Tom,

If you contact the Presb

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867)

2019-12-06 Thread elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList
Tom/Len,

Much obliged to Len for looking for Rev Maclear.



I would still recommend contacting the PBS in Belfast. The lady likely to
deal with your enquiry is Valerie Adams. She’s very knowledgeable - she
used to be the head of PRONI - and there’s not much she doesn’t know about
Presbyterian Ministers. In addition to the main published guides Len has
used, sometimes referred to as FASTI, she has notebooks with additional
information, including all the various seceder branches of Presbyterianism.
She might have something, and if she doesn’t she’ll probably be interested
in him because she is trying to ensure there is information on every
Minister who has ever had a congregation in Ireland. Even from very early
times (ie mid 1600s) a Presbytery had to approve the appointment of a new
Minister, and so there are pretty good records of most of them. But I am
sure there may be small gaps.



The Rev Maclear should have had a degree, and he would almost certainly
have obtained that in Scotland. (Presbyterians couldn’t obtain a theology
degree in Ireland till the mid 1800s. Trinity was the only
College/University in Ireland then and you had to be Church of Ireland to
study theology there). So Presbyterians went to Scotland. In the 1700s and
early 1800s there were 4 universities in Scotland: St Andrews, Aberdeen,
Glasgow & Edinburgh. They keep pretty good records of their old graduates
and you could contact them to see if any has a record of him attending or
matriculating. I have done that in the past with success. It’s worth noting
that not everyone matriculated. There was an additional fee for
matriculation. Some couldn’t or wouldn’t afford it and so just did the
course, which was generally acceptable in those times. Even in medicine it
wasn’t mandatory to pass an exam until the mid 1800s. Just having attended
the course was considered sufficient to enable you to practice, which is
fairly thought provoking. It was enough to have been there!



Elwyn

On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 at 08:21, Len Swindley  wrote:

> Elwyn & Tom,
>
>
>
> Referring to “History of Congregations in the Presbyterian in Ireland
> 1610-1982” (Presbyterian Historical Society , Belfast, 1982) and its
> separate index also published by the PHS & the Ulster Historical
> Foundation, 1996), I am unable to locate an entry for the Rev. Thomas T.
> Maclear (or variant). So then went to “The Seceders in Ireland with Annals
> of Their Congregations – Rev. David Stewart (Presbyterian Historical
> Society, 1950), and again there are no references to him. The Seceders
> joined the General Assembly in 1840 to form the Presbyterian Church in
> Ireland.
>
>
>
> The Presbyterian Churches of Newtownstewart (2) and Ardstraw Parish (a
> total of seven) are covered in the above works, but sadly there are no
> references to the Rev. Maclear.
>
>
>
> A point that may be of interest to researchers is that Anglicans (Church
> of Ireland) went to Church, Catholics attended the Chapel and Presbyterians
> gathered in the Meeting House.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList 
> *Sent: *Friday, 6 December 2019 6:10 AM
> *To: *CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List 
> *Cc: *elwyn soutter 
> *Subject: *Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867)
>
>
>
> Tom,
>
>
>
> If you contact the Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast, they are
> likely to have records on the Rev MaClear which should tell you where he
> served as Minister (as well as other information about his life).
>
>
>
> http://www.presbyterianhistoryireland.com
>
>
>
> The term “Meeting House” was how many Presbyterians described their
> church. It didn’t mean it wasn’t a church, just that they favoured that
> turn of phrase. You will often see the term Meeting House on Presbyterian
> marriage certificates in Ireland. It was normally a consecrated church.
>
>
>
>
>
> Elwyn
>
>
>
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:22, Tom Chambers via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
> I would eventually like to write a “Born  ,died in Tyrone” for my 3rd
> great grandfather John Chambers (1796-1867).
>
>
>
> I already have some good information about him.  He was a Linen Merchant,
> lived on Upper Street (now Main Street) in Newtownstewart and for a time
> owned and ran the corn mill in Milltown, just outside of Newtownstewart
> (thanks, Len)   Also he married Martha Maclear, sister of Sir Thomas
> Maclear who was just commemorated for his work in astronomy.  I have found
> lots of information on their three children: Thomas, Mary Ann, and George
> som

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867)

2019-12-06 Thread Len Swindley via CoTyroneList
Elwyn & Tom,

Referring to “History of Congregations in the Presbyterian in Ireland 
1610-1982” (Presbyterian Historical Society , Belfast, 1982) and its separate 
index also published by the PHS & the Ulster Historical Foundation, 1996), I am 
unable to locate an entry for the Rev. Thomas T. Maclear (or variant). So then 
went to “The Seceders in Ireland with Annals of Their Congregations – Rev. 
David Stewart (Presbyterian Historical Society, 1950), and again there are no 
references to him. The Seceders joined the General Assembly in 1840 to form the 
Presbyterian Church in Ireland.

The Presbyterian Churches of Newtownstewart (2) and Ardstraw Parish (a total of 
seven) are covered in the above works, but sadly there are no references to the 
Rev. Maclear.

A point that may be of interest to researchers is that Anglicans (Church of 
Ireland) went to Church, Catholics attended the Chapel and Presbyterians 
gathered in the Meeting House.

Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia



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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867)

Tom,

If you contact the Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast, they are likely 
to have records on the Rev MaClear which should tell you where he served as 
Minister (as well as other information about his life).

http://www.presbyterianhistoryireland.com

The term “Meeting House” was how many Presbyterians described their church. It 
didn’t mean it wasn’t a church, just that they favoured that turn of phrase. 
You will often see the term Meeting House on Presbyterian marriage certificates 
in Ireland. It was normally a consecrated church.


Elwyn

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:22, Tom Chambers via CoTyroneList 
mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
wrote:
I would eventually like to write a “Born  ,died in Tyrone” for my 3rd great 
grandfather John Chambers (1796-1867).

I already have some good information about him.  He was a Linen Merchant, lived 
on Upper Street (now Main Street) in Newtownstewart and for a time owned and 
ran the corn mill in Milltown, just outside of Newtownstewart (thanks, Len)   
Also he married Martha Maclear, sister of Sir Thomas Maclear who was just 
commemorated for his work in astronomy.  I have found lots of information on 
their three children: Thomas, Mary Ann, and George some of which I have posted 
on this site.


  1.  I do not know where John was born.  I have some information to formulate 
a hunch that he came from the London area.   But nothing concrete.  There were 
Chambers in the Newtownstewart, Strabane, area I but can not find a link.
  2.  I do not know when or where John and Martha got married.  They were 
Presbyterian, and in fact Martha’s father was the Rev James T. Maclear.   John 
and Martha are buried in the cemetery at the top of the hill on Main Street in 
Newtownstewart.  Their first son, Thomas was born in 1821.  So, that narrows it 
down.

Any help finding these two things would be appreciated.

By the way I have never found anything that says what church the Rev James T. 
Maclear was at.   Maybe at that time it was just a meeting house?

Thanks for your help.

Tom Chambers

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2019-12-05 Thread elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList
Tom,


If you contact the Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast, they are
likely to have records on the Rev MaClear which should tell you where he
served as Minister (as well as other information about his life).



http://www.presbyterianhistoryireland.com



The term “Meeting House” was how many Presbyterians described their church.
It didn’t mean it wasn’t a church, just that they favoured that turn of
phrase. You will often see the term Meeting House on Presbyterian marriage
certificates in Ireland. It was normally a consecrated church.



Elwyn

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 16:22, Tom Chambers via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> I would eventually like to write a “Born  ,died in Tyrone” for my 3rd
> great grandfather John Chambers (1796-1867).
>
>
>
> I already have some good information about him.  He was a Linen Merchant,
> lived on Upper Street (now Main Street) in Newtownstewart and for a time
> owned and ran the corn mill in Milltown, just outside of Newtownstewart
> (thanks, Len)   Also he married Martha Maclear, sister of Sir Thomas
> Maclear who was just commemorated for his work in astronomy.  I have found
> lots of information on their three children: Thomas, Mary Ann, and George
> some of which I have posted on this site.
>
>
>
>1. I do not know where John was born.  I have some information to
>formulate a hunch that he came from the London area.   But nothing
>concrete.  There were Chambers in the Newtownstewart, Strabane, area I but
>can not find a link.
>2. I do not know when or where John and Martha got married.  They were
>Presbyterian, and in fact Martha’s father was the Rev James T. Maclear.
>John and Martha are buried in the cemetery at the top of the hill on Main
>Street in Newtownstewart.  Their first son, Thomas was born in 1821.  So,
>that narrows it down.
>
>
>
> Any help finding these two things would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> By the way I have never found anything that says what church the Rev James
> T. Maclear was at.   Maybe at that time it was just a meeting house?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> Tom Chambers
>
>
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[CoTyroneMailingList] John Chambers (1796-1867)

2019-12-03 Thread Tom Chambers via CoTyroneList
I would eventually like to write a “Born  ,died in Tyrone” for my 3rd great grandfather John Chambers (1796-1867). I already have some good information about him.  He was a Linen Merchant, lived on Upper Street (now Main Street) in Newtownstewart and for a time owned and ran the corn mill in Milltown, just outside of Newtownstewart (thanks, Len)   Also he married Martha Maclear, sister of Sir Thomas Maclear who was just commemorated for his work in astronomy.  I have found lots of information on their three children: Thomas, Mary Ann, and George some of which I have posted on this site.  I do not know where John was born.  I have some information to formulate a hunch that he came from the London area.   But nothing concrete.  There were Chambers in the Newtownstewart, Strabane, area I but can not find a link.I do not know when or where John and Martha got married.  They were Presbyterian, and in fact Martha’s father was the Rev James T. Maclear.   John and Martha are buried in the cemetery at the top of the hill on Main Street in Newtownstewart.  Their first son, Thomas was born in 1821.  So, that narrows it down. Any help finding these two things would be appreciated. By the way I have never found anything that says what church the Rev James T. Maclear was at.   Maybe at that time it was just a meeting house? Thanks for your help.  Tom Chambers 

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