Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-16 Thread Jerome Chang
Thank you Jeannine. Say what you will about behemoth Microsoft, but I was impressed when I read about their inclusive design approach: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Design/inclusive Basically, the typical design strategy is to design for, say

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-16 Thread Jeannine van der Linden
We do tend to think of wheelchairs when we think of the ADA, but it is of course a much broader question. There are to my certain knowledge at least three members of this google group who are disabledand for whom an absence of the ADA means in greater or lesser degree an inability to work, go

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-15 Thread Jerome Chang
Magical word: historical designation. Yup, that can make some of the compliance difficult and not intuitive Note that ADA covers a litany of items down to the location and size of door handles. A lot of these help you comply very easily. Another example: placards for the visually impaired that

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-15 Thread Angel Kwiatkowski
Indeed. My comments are reflective more of logic not the lawfulness/compliance of ADA in new construction/remodels. There's a logic in my thought that no one using a wheelchair could get upstairs so the size of the closet doesn't matter. If they are sight/hearing/cane using, then size of closet

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-15 Thread Angel Kwiatkowski
On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 9:08:34 AM UTC-6, Jerome wrote: > > Clarification: ADA covers all disabilities, even those with a cane, > partially/fully blind, etc. ADA isn’t just for those in wheelchairs. > So yeah, that means some disabled people can climb all those stairs. :-/ > > > *JEROME CHANG

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-15 Thread Jerome Chang
Clarification: ADA covers all disabilities, even those with a cane, partially/fully blind, etc. ADA isn’t just for those in wheelchairs. So yeah, that means some disabled people can climb all those stairs. :-/ JEROME CHANG <> talk to us: (323) 330-9505 <> chat w/ us:  <>http://www.BLANKSPACES.c

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-15 Thread Angel Kwiatkowski
Yeah, if someone with a disability somehow found themselves up our 3 exterior stairs, then over a high threshold then up not 1 but 2 flights of stairs into the coworking space--yes, they would probably be upset with our small closets. On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 8:58:29 AM UTC-6, Jerome wrote: >

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-15 Thread Jerome Chang
> and before Jerome freaks out about ADA, our building is not ADA accessible > *at all*. You have to take stairs to get anywhere as it was built in 1968 so > we didn't have to comply with those modern standards. haha. No freaking out. Just advising from the point of view as both an architect

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-15 Thread Alex Hillman
Be sure to give this group's archives a search for this topic of phone booths, it's come up a bunch of times before . I can speak from the POV of having had *no* dedicated phone rooms in our original 1800 square

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-15 Thread Jerome Chang
5x5 is generous from what I usually see. Is it ADA compliant? I tested out https://www.jabbrrbox.com @GCUC in NY earlier this month. Solid. They have an ADA compliant version as well, but of course, it’s at least 5’x5’…likely 6’x6’ all said and done. The smaller mode

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-15 Thread Liz Trice
We've had good luck with a closet turned into a phone booth. It is small (about 5'x5'), has a heavy wooden door without a window, foam sealing where the door meets the frame, and a sweep to block the gap under the door, carpet on the floor, and a chair. We have white noise speakers both inside

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-15 Thread Katherine Warman Kern
I agree with Jerome. We don't have plugs or chairs to discourage "squatting" and looked for a wall of nails that we could program to emerge on a timer but couldn't find one. Just kidding. I am creating a new meeting room system that integrates with our member billing account and may consider

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-14 Thread Kevin Haggerty
Thanks for the feedback, Jerome. That all makes sense. I'm clear on what you think we should not do as a solution to give our members space to have phone calls and video conferences, but any recommendations on what we should do? Going outside would be cumbersome as we are on the second floor. W

Re: [Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-14 Thread Jerome Chang
Sorry to be blunt, I have not found a single phone booth that was worth its salt…except for the prefabricated types. Architecturally, they don’t comply w/ federal ADA laws, and therefore any local building codes as well. Operationally, staff ends up policing them - they kick peopl

[Coworking] Closet Phone Booth

2017-05-14 Thread Kevin Haggerty
As we start to map out how we're going to layout and organize our space, something we're looking at now is how to provide spaces for phone calls. This is a little tricky because we're upstairs, and also, we don't have a lot of room to work with. That said, we do have several closets that we don