RE: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-25 Thread Aimee Farr
Tim wrote: A lot of the current/recent reputation schemes make a fundamental mistake: they attempt to assign a scalar value to the [emphasis] reputation of an actor. Even the schemes which attempt to assign a vector rating, e.g, Declan' s rating of Detweiler is..., Tim's rating of Detweiler

: CDR: Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-25 Thread matthew X
All these mental efforts are not cost effective. Tens of people spending hours on filtering/rating schemes is expensive. Choate's whereabouts are well known, deploying persuasion contractors will cost a fraction of the proposed engineering efforts. Think of it as of simulation run of AP.

RE: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-25 Thread Aimee Farr
To wit, no two people can safely tell the same lie to the same person. Choate: Actually they can, only one (or both, if we allow 3 or more agents, only one is required to 'know' the lie) of the people must believe it is the truth. Well, I doan' kno' nuttin' 'bout no agents. That fact has

RE: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-25 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aimee wrote: To wit, no two people can safely tell the same lie to the same person. Bah. I say it depends entirely on what the lie is, who's being lied to, and how confident and artistic the confidence artists are. Choate: Actually they can,

Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-24 Thread Graham Lally
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] - ... the mailing list simply records # of posts written by each poster. call this P - mailing list records # of times someone wrote a post that was replied to. ... call this R - pseudoreputation is a measure of the above two parameters. one can

Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-24 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 06:45:20PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - posts to the list are like currency. lurkers Not a useful analogy. For some people, the more they post, the lower their reputation falls. - mailing list records # of times someone wrote a post that was replied to. posts

Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-24 Thread Tim May
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 12:30 PM, Declan McCullagh wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 06:45:20PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - posts to the list are like currency. lurkers Not a useful analogy. For some people, the more they post, the lower their reputation falls. A lot of the

Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-24 Thread Faustine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Declan wrote: There may be the germ of an idea here, but I'm hardly convinced an automated mechanism such as you describe will work. Even if it did, getting people focused on improving their popularity ratings rather than contributing ideas is

Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-24 Thread vznuri
ahem, yes I am aware any simple system is easily circumvented defeated, but that doesnt imply that it will be. Ive noticed many objections to any new proposal often take the form, but that would be different than what we have now!!! wow, amazing, no kidding!!! I can come up with all kinds of

Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-24 Thread Nomen Nescio
All these mental efforts are not cost effective. Tens of people spending hours on filtering/rating schemes is expensive. Choate's whereabouts are well known, deploying persuasion contractors will cost a fraction of the proposed engineering efforts. Think of it as of simulation run of AP.

Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-24 Thread Mike Rosing
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ahem, yes I am aware any simple system is easily circumvented defeated, but that doesnt imply that it will be. Ive noticed many objections to any new proposal often take the form, but that would be different than what we have now!!! wow,

Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-23 Thread Nomen Nescio
On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Adam Back wrote: Are there people who already read cpunks regularly via the web? (Reading email and mailing-lists via the web always seemed clunky to me, even on broadband, but there are apparently vast numbers of people who use only web-email by preference, and to

Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-23 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, March 23, 2002, at 05:31 PM, Graham Lally wrote: Adam Back wrote: Apart from my recent comments about NoCeM's and on onspool NoCeM reader, another perhaps simpler idea would be to do it all with simple CGI stuff and a web archive. I'm sure this has been discussed before in

Re: signal to noise proposal

2002-03-23 Thread vznuri
hi guys, thanks for the feedback. I have in mind a system that would work from a few factors, with minimal intervention. I specifically think that a system of appointed moderators is **not** an ideal solution for a bazillion reasons. that is precisely what I have not in mind. the whole