Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] core.jobs dependency on Java 8

2015-12-07 Thread John Arthorne
The fact that the Eclipse SDK as a whole will require Java 8 doesn't imply that any particular bundle should require Java 8. Since the change requiring Java 8 was cosmetic and there is a significant impact caused by the change, I think it is fair to ask the question and to consider the request. I

[cross-project-issues-dev] Orion participation in Neon

2015-12-04 Thread John Arthorne
The Eclipse Orion project is planning to participate in the Neon simultaneous release, with an offset of +3. It will be release number 12.https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ecd.orion/releases/12.0Thanks,John ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 1000 line limit for contributions

2015-11-20 Thread John Arthorne
The "allow committers to contribute to other eclipse projects" topic is well underway in the Eclipse Board. There is a problem that some committers have written agreements from their employer that only allows them to participate on a particular project. The Foundation needs to put some automation

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] DTP major version bump for Neon

2015-10-28 Thread John Arthorne
at :)   John     - Original message -From: Konstantin Komissarchik <konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com>To: John Arthorne/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA, "cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org" <cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org>Cc:Subject: RE: [cross-project-issues-dev] DTP major vers

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] New components in Mars.1 (was Re: Eclipse Mars 1 RC4 issue with Buildship / workspace prompt)

2015-09-23 Thread John Arthorne
I think the issue is that the whole product has to offer an update.. individual features in the product cannot publish updates independently that will be discovered by the update check. This is both a good thing and a bad thing, depending on your perspective.. I don't think there is a silver

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Observation: Frequent UI freezes when working with files

2014-12-11 Thread John Arthorne
The IResource/IWorkspace API is backed by a completely in-memory skeleton of your file system structure. So any time you can query the resource model instead of the file system, you will see orders of magnitude performance improvement over direct java.io.File access. The IResource API (and

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] PLEASE HELP: Eclipse asking for username/password for download.eclipse.org

2014-11-13 Thread John Arthorne
, it is not sending those credentials to download.eclipse.org. I'm somewhat concerned by this, and I'm hoping it isn't what I think it is. Thanks, Denis [attachment password.png deleted by John Arthorne/Ottawa/IBM] ___ cross-project-issues-dev

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [equinox-dev] Plans to update to jetty 9 followed by update to the Http Service implementation

2014-10-08 Thread John Arthorne
Cross-posting to cross-project list for awareness... John From: Thomas Watson tjwat...@us.ibm.com To: Equinox development mailing list equinox-...@eclipse.org, Date: 10/08/2014 11:45 AM Subject:[equinox-dev] Plans to update to jetty 9 followed by update to the Http Service

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Several Platform Feature Versions Need to be Increment

2014-08-26 Thread John Arthorne
Thanks for catching those, Ed. Can you enter a bug report for issues like this - it doesn't seem like a cross-project discussion topic to me. John From: Ed Merks ed.me...@gmail.com To: Cross project issues cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, Date: 08/26/2014 05:02 AM Subject:

[cross-project-issues-dev] Home dir disk full on build.eclipse.org

2014-06-18 Thread John Arthorne
I discovered I could not create a file in my home directory on build.eclipse.org this morning. I cleaned up most of my home to free some space, but please take a look at your home directory and see if you can free more space: nfsmaster:/home/data 1.7T 1.6T 41M

[cross-project-issues-dev] 3rd party JavaScript libraries in Orbit

2013-10-24 Thread John Arthorne
We're having a discussion in the following bug about how to handle IP cleared third party JavaScript libraries in Orbit. If you are working on any Eclipse project that consumes 3rd party JavaScript libraries, please chime in there so we can get a sense for how many projects are in this

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] JFace Generics

2013-09-04 Thread John Arthorne
Just to close the loop on this, all the JFace generic changes have been reverted in master and will not appear in M2. For anyone interested in following or contributing to this work, see this main bug and its dependencies: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=402445 John

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Has Java 5 Platform support been discontinued?

2013-09-03 Thread John Arthorne
/09/2013 14:57, John Arthorne wrote: I seem to have a knack for definitive statements lately so I'll take a try at this. The last Eclipse Platform release to officially support Java 5 was 3.6/Helios. We have not run our tests against Java 5 for several years and can make no claim that it works

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] JFace Generics

2013-08-30 Thread John Arthorne
it. A lot of us who build products on it already have. But no one is suggesting that's the right thing to do in the long run. Or are we? Doug. From: John Arthorne john_artho...@ca.ibm.com Reply-To: Cross project issues cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org Date: Friday, 30 August, 2013 11:05 AM To: Cross

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] JFace Generics

2013-08-29 Thread John Arthorne
You raise good arguments as always Ed. I will attempt to summarize and respond to some of the comments raised in this thread. Q: Should JFace be generified at all. As with most library generifications there are pros and cons that we can probably debate all day. I still think on balance it

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] JFace Generics

2013-08-29 Thread John Arthorne
From: Mickael Istria mist...@redhat.com I may have missed something, but wouldn't the following implementation be a valid solution? public E[] getElements(I inputElement) { return inputElement.toArray(new E[inputElement.size()]); } You can't instantiate arrays of generic type. I think

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Future of Eclipse IDE

2013-07-18 Thread John Arthorne
Gunnar Wagenknecht wrote on 07/18/2013 05:01:50 AM: Too much of the platform is still dominated and controlled too strictly by that one single company. Contributions got turned away because of the lack of resources argument and associated maintenance costs long term. To some point those

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] What is a maintenance release

2013-06-27 Thread John Arthorne
I realize this was a rhetorical question, but the requirement is that projects are capable of working with the version of their dependencies that is shipped in the same simultaneous release. In this case the Kepler version of XText requires the Kepler version of EMF. This is quite reasonable,

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler's final staging repository is complete

2013-06-13 Thread John Arthorne
From: Denis Roy denis@eclipse.org On which day does last minute begin, as we are 13 days away from the release? As a casual observer I'm puzzled by the test early, test often, fix nothing mantra. Does today's RC somehow become null and void if a respin is made and serious problems

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Missing release information for some Kepler projects

2013-06-10 Thread John Arthorne
I recall the planning council recently decided on a policy that we would not allow a new release of a project to appear for the first time after RC1. Am I remembering that incorrectly? This is exactly the kind of last minute change that caused trouble for the release train in Juno SR2. I think

[cross-project-issues-dev] Recent breaking change to behaviour of Runtime#exec in Oracle JRE

2013-05-24 Thread John Arthorne
The Platform team just became aware of a very recent change to the behaviour of some of the Runtime#exec methods in the Oracle JRE. This affects the most recent update of both Java SE 6 and Java SE 7 from Oracle. Here are the details provided in the JRE release notes:

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] M7?

2013-05-03 Thread John Arthorne
It is currently replicating. There will be an announcement on eclipse-dev mailing list when it is available. John From: Ed Willink e...@willink.me.uk To: Cross project issues cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, Date: 05/03/2013 01:32 PM Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev]

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Edit your eclipse.org website

2013-03-01 Thread John Arthorne
I was about to say that page looks right to me.. but then I see Wayne fixed it since you asked the question. Read it again. John From: Mark Russell mrruss...@google.com To: Cross project issues cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, Date: 03/01/2013 01:32 PM Subject:

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Wait ... don't release yet! ... delay one week, Friday 3/1

2013-02-22 Thread John Arthorne
Since the new version of EGit was only introduced in RC3, that could only happen if someone changed their minimum dependency on EGit in their RC4 contribution. That seems unlikely but projects should speak up if they have that constraint. Markus mentioned the only project downstream from EGit

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Github mirroring seems broken

2013-02-19 Thread John Arthorne
AM, Shawn Pearce s...@google.com wrote: Oddly enough the mirror at https://eclipse.googlesource.com is also behind by the same amount of time. Looks like mirroring stopped working when the Eclipse Foundation moved their servers? On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:15 AM, John Arthorne john_artho

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Hudson windows slave down

2013-02-05 Thread John Arthorne
, Cc: John Arthorne/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA Date: 02/05/2013 09:23 AM Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Hudson windows slave down On 02/04/2013 05:12 PM, John Arthorne wrote: I might have just missed a message about this, but the Hudson Windows slave is offline. Can someone bring

[cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Platform M5a required

2013-02-04 Thread John Arthorne
The Eclipse platform is planning a rebuild of M5 to address a major key binding regression that was introduced last week: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=399831 The problem is not severe for the Eclipse SDK, but for multi-page text editors many key bindings are broken, which

[cross-project-issues-dev] Hudson windows slave down

2013-02-04 Thread John Arthorne
I might have just missed a message about this, but the Hudson Windows slave is offline. Can someone bring it back to life? John ___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Moving to a new data centre - Feb. 9, 2013

2013-01-11 Thread John Arthorne
Later in the month brings us very close to Juno SR2 which risks disrupting the release train (either last minute builds or the delivery to end users). For Kepler M5, I think we should aim to complete it for Feb 8 as usual, but then only announce it on Monday Feb 11 (assuming servers are

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Some Juno participants have not signed up for Kepler

2013-01-09 Thread John Arthorne
I have now marked Orion as participating. Orion releases several times a year so we haven't even started thinking about the June release yet ;) John From: Wayne Beaton wa...@eclipse.org To: Cross project issues cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, Date: 01/08/2013 04:17 PM Subject:

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Cannot find GIT replacement now that Anonymous CVS is broken for Hudson builds

2013-01-03 Thread John Arthorne
The original discussions of the CVS shutdown did involve leaving a read only service intact [1]. Not all code from past releases was migrated, so anyone wanting to find the source for an old release, or do long term maintenance on old releases, needs access to the CVS data. At the very least

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Cannot find GIT replacement now that Anonymous CVS is broken for Hudson builds

2013-01-03 Thread John Arthorne
Denis Roy wrote on 01/03/2013 02:53:48 PM: Actually, the bug doesn't involve leaving a read only service intact at all. The repos are still in their locations, read-only, but pserver has been shut down. Yes it depends on your interpretation of read only. If you interpret this to mean

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for Kepler M4 +3

2012-12-20 Thread John Arthorne
Eric Gwin eric.g...@oracle.com wrote on 12/20/2012 02:04:11 PM: No. EclipseLink's M4 was 2.5.0.v20121016-ab08992, it is what was included in the aggregation files. However, Dali is including EclipseLink directly, and they are using M5 (2.5.0.v20121120- ec51fcc). So currently both versions

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [wtp-dev] ETA for declaring WTP M4 build?

2012-12-19 Thread John Arthorne
Wouldn't you just build against the candidate that they have already contributed? I don't follow how this prevents a project from contributing their own candidate to the aggregation. There are enough circular dependencies between projects at the same level in the train that we could never

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and outlook for Kepler M4 at end of +1

2012-12-18 Thread John Arthorne
Yes, this BIRT dependency is invalid due to the ICU4J version increase in Kepler: org.eclipse.birt.core 4.2.1.v201209121203 depends on: package com.ibm.icu.lang [3.4.4,5.0.0) It looks like there is already a BIRT bug report for this: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=395365 John

[cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Platform Juno performance update

2012-09-28 Thread John Arthorne
The Eclipse Project PMC has prepared a brief update on the state of the investigation of performance problems some people are seeing in the Juno release. The update includes a short summary of the problems been seeing, some analysis, and the plan of action over the coming months. The update is

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Performance, 3.8 versus 4.2

2012-09-06 Thread John Arthorne
:21:10 -0400 From: John Arthorne john_artho...@ca.ibm.com To: Cross project issues cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Performance, 3.8 versus 4.2 Message-ID: of6b7596fb.b62ef228-on85257a70.0048e946-85257a70.00495...@ca.ibm.com Content-Type: text/plain

[cross-project-issues-dev] ssh accounts locked

2012-09-04 Thread John Arthorne
ssh login to build.eclipse.org seems to be denying everyone. Just so everyone doesn't report the same bug, here it is: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=388790 John___ cross-project-issues-dev mailing list

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] EGit / line ending problems with simrel repo

2012-08-16 Thread John Arthorne
For what it's worth, we settled on the following approach for the Eclipse top-level project (always use Unix delimiters and use Eclipse settings to control it): http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform-releng/Git_Workflows#Dealing_with_line_terminators Also note you can select an entire

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] HTTP git access

2012-07-06 Thread John Arthorne
It is working fine for me. I tried both HTTP and SSH connections to git repositories at eclipse and they connect just fine. John Zeb Ford-Reitz zeb.ford-re...@bredex.de Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 07/06/2012 06:24 AM Please respond to Cross project issues

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] List of files on Eclipse Mirror servers

2012-06-21 Thread John Arthorne
It is available as a plain text file. Try this: http://download.eclipse.org/technology/phoenix/download.eclipse.org-filelist.txt John Eike Stepper step...@esc-net.de Sent by: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org 06/21/2012 07:48 AM Please respond to Cross project issues

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and Outlook for Juno!

2012-06-13 Thread John Arthorne
David Williams wrote on 06/12/2012 05:15:26 PM: I appreciate everyone keeping the build green and making progress on the sim rel reports [1], though there are a few serious issues left there. [1] http://build.eclipse.org/juno/simrel/reporeports/ I looked through these, and at this

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and Outlook for Juno!

2012-06-13 Thread John Arthorne
Konstantin Komissarchik wrote on 06/13/2012 10:14:52 AM: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Status and Outlook for Juno! It looks like this dependency is coming from RT packaging, not Saphire: That makes more sense. All Sapphire dependencies are written very broadly since the Juno release

[cross-project-issues-dev] Input on platform rebuild decision

2012-06-12 Thread John Arthorne
The Platform is considering an RC4 rebuild to pick up a new version of ECF. We are far past our contribution deadline at this point, so can you please chime in on this bug if this affects your project either way. The last thing we want to do is further disrupt the release train after the

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Juno RC2 is complete

2012-06-01 Thread John Arthorne
Depending on the time of day, Eclipse bandwidth has been completely saturated recently, which can make for some very slow downloads. In our lab we have measured downloads as slow as 10KB/s and often in the range of 15-20KBs [1]. The worst time of day seems to be mornings EDT. The 4MB in the

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] The PermGen problem

2012-05-29 Thread John Arthorne
Bug 265525 is about heap space. We did increase the heap space across all platforms in 4.2 release (see bug 373679). However Ed is talking about permgen memory, and in particular he is talking about the case of launching a nested Eclipse. This is a very difficult problem to solve and there has

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Juno RC1 repository is ready

2012-05-25 Thread John Arthorne
, John gets :) I'll reverse the logic and say if someone needs it, they'll have to speak up. For now, I'll remove the M7 tie-in (but leave the sub repo there on disk, if someone really needs it). Thanks, John Arthorne ---05/25/2012 11:48:42 AM---The main problem I am aware

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Yet another nag note ... and, I mean it this time!

2012-05-24 Thread John Arthorne
Stephan Herrmann wrote on 05/24/2012 06:30:51 AM: Looking at verified.txt I see lots of jar verified. Warning: This jar contains entries whose signer certificate has expired. Re-run with the -verbose and -certs options for more details. It seems to fix this we'd have to re-build

[cross-project-issues-dev] Any way to kill rogue process on hudson slave?

2012-02-06 Thread John Arthorne
I have a rogue process still running on the Hudson windows slave from a previous build. This causes all subsequent builds to fail and it prevents cleaning up the workspace. Is there any way to forcefully kill a rogue test process or otherwise get the slave back into a good state? ERROR:

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] New PDE error reporting in 4.2m4

2012-01-19 Thread John Arthorne
I suggest entering a bug against PDE and we can track it down from there. According to Curtis the default severity for missing versions is ignore and this hasn't changed in Juno. I quickly checked these settings in latest 4.2 build and I also see them as ignore. It could be something peculiar

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Xtext M4 ?

2011-12-14 Thread John Arthorne
The general form of this question would be good input for Wayne and his project page organization. Currently projects declare with a flag that they are participating in the simultaneous release, but there is no record that I am aware of indicating which release they will contribute. For