Re: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks

2001-02-14 Thread Wouter Slegers
On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:39:01PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: > I couldn't find the document, but Ulf was kind enough to > forward me the PDF file, which I've placed online: > http://www.politechbot.com/docs/echelon-nl.0101.pdf This document describes the technical aspects of communication sys

Re: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks

2001-02-06 Thread Declan McCullagh
I couldn't find the document, but Ulf was kind enough to forward me the PDF file, which I've placed online: http://www.politechbot.com/docs/echelon-nl.0101.pdf -Declan On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 02:46:53AM +0100, Ulf Möller wrote: > > [I haven't seen the original documents, so consider this only

Re: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks

2001-01-31 Thread Barry W
At 28-01-01 00:52, John Gilmore wrote: >[I haven't seen the original documents, so consider this only a rumor > at this point. Anyone have more info? -- John] > >Translation of report by Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad on 20 January > >Source: NRC Handelsblad, Rotterdam, in Dutch 20 Jan 01 p 2

Re: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks

2001-01-31 Thread Jaap-Henk Hoepman
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 02:46:53 +0100 Ulf Möller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [I haven't seen the original documents, so consider this only a rumor at this > >point. Anyone have more info? -- John] > > >http://parlando.sdu.nl/cgi/showdoc/doc/anonymous:62665/4/0/KST50892.pdf/0/KST50892.pdf > >

Re: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks

2001-01-30 Thread Enzo Michelangeli
- Original Message - From: "John Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 7:52 AM Subject: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks > [I haven't seen

Re: Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks

2001-01-30 Thread Ulf Möller
> [I haven't seen the original documents, so consider this only a rumor > at this point. Anyone have more info? -- John] http://parlando.sdu.nl/cgi/showdoc/doc/anonymous:62665/4/0/KST50892.pdf/0/KST50892.pdf (I don't know if that is a permanent URL. If not, search for document number 27591, nr

Dutch defense minister warns other countries have Echelon-type spy networks

2001-01-30 Thread John Gilmore
[I haven't seen the original documents, so consider this only a rumor at this point. Anyone have more info? -- John] Translation of report by Dutch newspaper NRC Handelsblad on 20 January The Hague, 20 January: Systems used to "bug" telephones, faxes and e-mail, like the American-British Eche