On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:06:05 +0100, Ian G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd be interested to hear why he wants to
improve on AES. The issue with doing that
is that any marginal improvements he makes
will have trouble overcoming the costs
involved with others analysing his work.
Several things
Dan Kaminsky wrote:
Have you looked at their scheme?
http://www.securescience.net/ciphers/csc2/
Secure Science is basically publishing a cipher suite implemented by
Tom St. Denis, author of Libtomcrypt.
Aha! I seem to recall on this very list about
2 years back, Tom got crucified for trying
David Wagner wrote:
Seecure Science Corporation writes:
Secure Science is offering a preview of one of the 3 ciphers they will
be publishing througout the year. [...] This cipher is [...]
provably just as secure as AES-128.
Adam Shostack writes:
Really? How does one go about proving the
Have you looked at their scheme?
http://www.securescience.net/ciphers/csc2/
The way to come up with a cipher provably as secure as AES-128 is to use
AES-128 as part of your cipher -- but their scheme does not do anything
like that.
I am very skeptical about claims that they have a mathematical
Really? How does one go about proving the security of a block cipher?
My understanding is that you, and others, perform attacks against it,
and see how it holds up. Many of the very best minds out there
attacked AES, so for your new CS2 cipher to be provably just as
secure as AES-128, all those
Adam Shostack wrote:
Really? How does one go about proving the security of a block cipher?
My understanding is that you, and others, perform attacks against it,
and see how it holds up. Many of the very best minds out there
attacked AES, so for your new CS2 cipher to be provably just as
secure
| Really? How does one go about proving the security of a block cipher?
They don't claim that:
This cipher is ... provably just as secure as AES-128.
I can come up with a cipher provably just as secure as AES-128 very quickly
(Actually, based on the paper a while back on many
Jerrold Leichter writes:
They don't claim that:
This cipher is ... provably just as secure as AES-128.
I can come up with a cipher provably just as secure as AES-128 very quickly
Actually, I think Adam is totally right.
Have you looked at their scheme?
| Jerrold Leichter writes:
| They don't claim that:
|
| This cipher is ... provably just as secure as AES-128.
|
| I can come up with a cipher provably just as secure as AES-128 very
quickly
|
| Actually, I think Adam is totally right.
|
| Have you looked at their scheme?
|
Jerrold Leichter wrote:
I can come up with a cipher provably just as secure as AES-128 very quickly
(Actually, based on the paper a while back on many alternative ways to
formulate AES - it had a catchy title something like How Many Ways Can You
Spell AES?, except that I can't find one like
10 matches
Mail list logo
