Re: quantum hype

2003-09-21 Thread Arnold G. Reinhold
At 6:38 PM -0400 9/18/03, John S. Denker wrote: Yes, Mallory can DoS the setup by reading (and thereby trashing) every bit. But Mallory can DoS the setup by chopping out a piece of the cable. The two are equally effective and equally detectable. Chopping is cheaper and easier. Other key-exchange

Re: quantum hype

2003-09-21 Thread Peter Fairbrother
There are lots of types of QC. I'll just mention two. In "classic" QC Alice generates polarised photons at randomly chosen either "+" or "x" polarisations. Bob measures the received photons using a randomly chosen polarisation, and tells Alice whether the measurement polarisation he chose was "+"

Re: quantum hype

2003-09-21 Thread martin f krafft
Again, replying to all. also sprach John S. Denker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.09.19.0038 +0200]: > Other key-exchange methods such as DH are comparably > incapable of solving the DoS problem. So why bring up > the issue? For one, I can un-DoS with QC at any point in time. This may be relevant for

Re: quantum hype

2003-09-21 Thread Dave Howe
>> no. its the "underlieing hard problem" for QC. If there is >> a solution to any of the Hard Problems, nobody knows about them. >right, so it's no better than the arguable hard problem of >factoring a 2048 bit number. Peter Fairbrother may well be in possession of a break for the QC hard problem

Re: quantum hype

2003-09-21 Thread Peter Fairbrother
Peter Fairbrother wrote: > If the channel is authentic then a MitM is hard - but not impossible. The > "no-cloning" theorem is all very well, but physics actually allows imperfect > cloning of up to 5/6 of the photons while retaining polarisation, and this > should be allowed for as well as the n

Re: quantum hype

2003-09-21 Thread Andreas Gunnarsson
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 01:37:21PM +0100, Peter Fairbrother wrote: [cloning photons] > There is also another less noisy cloning technique which has recently been > done in laboratories, though it doubles the photon's wavelength, which would > be noticeable, To get rid of the wavelength change it s

The Code Book - in CD form

2003-09-21 Thread Ian Grigg
Has anyone reviewed Simon Singh's CD version of "The Code Book" ? = http://www.simonsingh.net/The_CDROM.html After 12 months of intense development, the interactive CD-ROM version of The Code Book is now available. I might be biased, but I think that i

Inner Transposition Cipher now with source!

2003-09-21 Thread Peter Wayner
After listening to the discussion about hiding information by srcabmling the oredr of ltetres, I decided to write some code to experiment with it. You can try out the Java applet here: http://www.wayner.org/books/discrypt2/wordsteg.php Source code is available protected by the LGPL. It builds