Perry Metzger wrote:
> So, the next time one of your friends in Germany asks why the crazy
> Americans think ID cards and such are a bad thing, remember my
> father, and remember all the people like him who fled to the US over
> the last couple hundred years and who left children that still
> remem
* Perry E. Metzger:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> But nevertheless, I do not understand why americans are so afraid of
>> an ID card.
>
> Perhaps I can explain why I am.
>
> I do not trust governments. I've inherited this perspective. My
> grandfather sent his children abroad from Speyer in Germa
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> (currently in Boston, MA, after giving fingerprints at the
> airport immigration)
And you may have then noticed the interesting effect; in Germany we have
mandatory cards - carry them round always - but virtually have to show
them. And only to offici
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> But nevertheless, I do not understand why americans are so afraid of
> an ID card.
Perhaps I can explain why I am.
I do not trust governments. I've inherited this perspective. My
grandfather sent his children abroad from Speyer in Germany just after
the ascension of A
--- Jonathan Thornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > - In Germany we have an ID card and I have it in my pocket all the
> > time. But actually it is rarely used, I do need it not more than
> > maybe three times a year. [[...]]
I think this has a lot to do with the fa
> Isn't that ridiculous? In the USA where they allegedly don't have ID cards
> you are approx. more than 20 times as often asked for a picture ID than
> in Germany where we have ID cards officially.
True. But funny, isn't it: I always enjoy looking at the most
puzzled facial expression of some twe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- In Germany we have an ID card and I have it in my pocket all the
time. But actually it is rarely used, I do need it not more than
maybe three times a year. [[...]]
As a Canadian living and working in Germany, my legal "ID card" is
my (Canadian) passport. (I don't h
On Tue, Jul 05, 2005 at 11:26:54PM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>
> Let me refer you to a National Academies report (I was on the
> committee): Stephen T. Kent and Lynette Millett, ed. IDs -- Not That
> Easy: Questions About Nationwide Identity Systems. National Academies
> Press, 2002. htt
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>But nevertheless, I do not understand why americans are so afraid of
>an ID card. It has by far more advantages than disadvantages, and
>actually the US driving license is already a kind of ID card.
Let me refer you to a National Academ
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> your ID card. Exactly that circular problem as mentioned in the
> posting.
>
> But when I explained that circular problem, they checked by phone with
> the town's registry office and gave me the copy of the birth
> certificate without an ID card to so
Don't laugh. This is exactly the problem I had with my
german identity card.
In Germany, you are required to possess either an identity card
or a passport once you reach the age of 16. If you're younger you
can just have a children's passport in case you need for travelling.
Usually applying fo
I'm forwarding this article, originally from the Cypherpunks mailing
list (I saw it on Dave Farber's "Interesting People") because I find
the security implications important.
HOWEVER, I'm warning in advance that I'm not going to forward a lot of
followups, especially if they are unoriginal and/or
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