Re: [Cryptography] Summary of the discussion so far

2013-09-14 Thread Max Kington
On 13 Sep 2013, at 21:46, Nico Williams wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 03:17:35PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:53:28 -0500 Nico Williams >> wrote: >>> Traffic analysis can't really be defeated, not in detail. >> >> What's wrong with mix networks? > > First: you ca

Re: [Cryptography] Summary of the discussion so far

2013-09-13 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:46:58 -0500 Nico Williams wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 03:17:35PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:53:28 -0500 Nico Williams > > wrote: > > > Traffic analysis can't really be defeated, not in detail. > > > > What's wrong with mix networks? > >

Re: [Cryptography] Summary of the discussion so far

2013-09-13 Thread Nico Williams
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 03:17:35PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:53:28 -0500 Nico Williams > wrote: > > Traffic analysis can't really be defeated, not in detail. > > What's wrong with mix networks? First: you can probably be observed using them. Unless too many people

Re: [Cryptography] Summary of the discussion so far

2013-09-13 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:53:28 -0500 Nico Williams wrote: > Traffic analysis can't really be defeated, not in detail. What's wrong with mix networks? Perry -- Perry E. Metzgerpe...@piermont.com ___ The cryptography mailing list cryptogra

Re: [Cryptography] Summary of the discussion so far

2013-09-13 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 04:03:44PM -0700, Nemo wrote: > Phillip Hallam-Baker writes: > > > I have attempted to produce a summary of the discussion so far for use > > as a requirements document for the PRISM-PROOF email scheme. This is > > now available as an Internet draft. > > > > http://www.iet

Re: [Cryptography] Summary of the discussion so far

2013-09-11 Thread Nemo
Phillip Hallam-Baker writes: > I have attempted to produce a summary of the discussion so far for use > as a requirements document for the PRISM-PROOF email scheme. This is > now available as an Internet draft. > > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-hallambaker-prismproof-req-00.txt First, I suggest r