Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-25 Thread Randolph
Anyone looked at BitMail p2p ? http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitmail/?source=directory 2013/12/24 grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com This thread pertains specifically to the use of P2P/DHT models to replace traditional email as we know it today. Pasting in a very rough and unflowing thread summary

Re: [cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?

2013-12-25 Thread Nicholas Bohm
On 25/12/2013 00:43, Greg wrote: I'm curious, is Aaron's response representative of the entire list's, or are there folks out there lurking who would actually appreciate a forum? Show of hands? As long as I get the messages in my email inbox and can get

Re: [cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?

2013-12-25 Thread stargrave
*** Nicholas Bohm nb...@ernest.net [2013-12-25 18:40]: I'm curious, is Aaron's response representative of the entire list's, or are the re folks out there lurking who would actually appreciate a forum? I am just an ordinary reader here, but personally I am strongly against forums. I won't read

Re: [cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?

2013-12-25 Thread Alex J. Martin
I would rather retain the mailing list. On 25/12/2013 00:43, Greg wrote: I'm curious, is Aaron's response representative of the entire list's, or are there folks out there lurking who would actually appreciate a forum? Show of hands? -- Please do not email me anything that you are not

Re: [cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?

2013-12-25 Thread Bryan Bishop
On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Greg g...@kinostudios.com wrote: I've used both phpBB and simplemachines, and far prefer the latter for its simpler configuration, administration, and what seem like superior spam-fighting capabilities. I have seen similar requests on other mailing lists,

Re: [cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?

2013-12-25 Thread Alexander Klimov
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013, Greg wrote: The advantages are almost too numerous to list, I prefer mail, but let a hundred flowers bloom, for whoever switches to a web forum deserves it :-) -- Regards, ASK ___ cryptography mailing list

[cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-25 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Jeremie Miller jeremie.mil...@gmail.com wrote: This thread seems pretty immense and in various places, what's the best way to contribute to it? I'm pretty keen on the topic, been working on /real/ p2p infrastructure for 5+ years now :) I'm not sure that it

Re: [cryptography] The next gen P2P secure email solution

2013-12-25 Thread grarpamp
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Randolph rdohm...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone looked at BitMail p2p ? http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitmail/?source=directory re: bitmail, goldbug, etc. With all due respect, I doubt few here have or will anytime soon. You spam out links to binaries no one's

Re: [cryptography] [Cryptography] HSBC's Password Approach: Impressive

2013-12-25 Thread John Levine
They are being pretty clever to make up for terribly endpoint security. Yeah, all that might work for non brick and mortar stuff you maybe care about, say email [1], and your fave pornsite. But really... you need to be able to demand a hardware OTP token from your bank and brokerage... They do

Re: [cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?

2013-12-25 Thread John Levine
Stick with the mailing list. If we are going to move anywhere, it should be toward something like a moderated Usenet newsgroup (if not actually moving to Usenet). Agreed. By the way, I gateway this list to a local newsgroup on my usenet server and read it there. Moving to usenet wouldn't be

Re: [cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?

2013-12-25 Thread Eric Mill
I feel like people ended up talking past each other here. Google Groups, as a product, clearly found success from merging a web forum and an email list together. People use them both ways. I use plenty of Google Groups in email-only. It's sometimes nice to have a forum presentation. I don't

Re: [cryptography] Can we move to a forum, please?

2013-12-25 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Eric Mill e...@konklone.com wrote: ... I've been distantly watching http://www.discourse.org and I like their vision. I believe they allow, or want to allow, email-only interaction. I don't know if it does, and I don't know if Discourse is easy to set up, or

[cryptography] Prerendering as a security idea (was: RSA is dead.)

2013-12-25 Thread ianG
On 25/12/13 02:38 AM, Bill Frantz wrote: On 12/25/13 at 2:05 PM, i...@iang.org (ianG) wrote: So, assuming I sober up by the morn, and SO doesn't notice, where's Ping's code? See http://zesty.ca/pubs/yee-phd.pdf p217ff Thanks! I had a quick look, it's in Python, I'm squeezed out. Also,

[cryptography] controlling trust with money

2013-12-25 Thread ianG
On 25/12/13 07:33 AM, Peter Todd wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 11:03:31PM -0500, Benjamin Kreuter wrote: ... Moderation and spam control - both involve trusting centralized humans. ... Equally we have very suductive solutions to such distastful brushes with humanity in the form of throwing