Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Thierry Koblentz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Al Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Michael Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Css-D" ; "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites Al

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Al Sparber wrote: > This page: > http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/testing/minmax/cssp5.htm FWIW, I see this page just fine on 2 different machines (with and without SP2). But I'd like to know/understand why we're not all experiencing the same thing... Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com _

Re: [css-d] Rounded tabs in IE

2005-10-25 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Tamara Jackson wrote: > Hi everyone > > I'm working on my first CSS website, and have run into a problem. I'm > trying to create a rounded tab, but it just won't display properly in > IE. I have two different attempts at getting this working: > > First go - > http://www.meetup.developer.graphyx.net

Re: [css-d] border in image link

2005-10-25 Thread Donna Jones
Thanks Neal a#imagebutton img { border: none;} Sorry, I meant to write a.imagebutton img {border: none;} -Neal geez, i should have noticed that, too!! I'm not "total newbie"; not very far off though! :) but i do know the difference between a class and id. and, yes, it does work now..

Re: [css-d] border in image link

2005-10-25 Thread Neal
a#imagebutton img { border: none;} Sorry, I meant to write a.imagebutton img {border: none;} -Neal __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.c

[css-d] Rounded tabs in IE

2005-10-25 Thread Tamara Jackson
Hi everyone I'm working on my first CSS website, and have run into a problem. I'm trying to create a rounded tab, but it just won't display properly in IE. I have two different attempts at getting this working: First go - http://www.meetup.developer.graphyx.net/blacksmith/test/index.html Display

Re: [css-d] background not strectching and other IE/Firefox differences

2005-10-25 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Schalk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >http://www.volume4.com/oxfordprice/contact/index.html > >In Firefox the white background, which is a small white faux columns >background .gif, does not stretch to fill in the entire area up to the >footer. Try adding your favorite clearing element between the

Re: [css-d] IE Mac Float Trouble

2005-10-25 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Jason Narciso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >creating this page. > >i came across some issues when floating boxes inside of a floated container. >i seemed to have fixed this using the clearfix >method. >

Re: [css-d] border in image link

2005-10-25 Thread Donna Jones
Alternatively, you could assign that particular image/button an id or class: src="images/decorating-button.jpg" width="86" height="51" alt=""> and use this css: a#imagebutton img { border: none;} -Neal Neal, i tried this and it didn't work. I've loaded the page again if anyone wants t

[css-d] Having problem with nested layers and display problem in IE (of course)

2005-10-25 Thread Angela Trigg
Am relatively new to CSS so forgive me if this is any easy one, but it's driving me crazy. I have it looking just swell in Firefox/WIN, but things get wacky in IE6/WIN The problem is the rollovers on the thumbnails of the people... Box is not showing up in same place as it does in Firefox. I'v

Re: [css-d] border in image link

2005-10-25 Thread Donna Jones
My sympathies with going nuts :) - I had this same problem before. Here's the solution: Thanks, just when one thinks *maybe* you're making some progress - then Bam! its good to have empathy and sympathy. I can't imagine saying to my client, well, i just spent three hours (not much exaggerati

Re: [css-d] border in image link

2005-10-25 Thread Neal
Donna Jones said the following: really going nuts here trying to figure out how to get this one pixel border to be gone. its the image/button on the left. she wants it to be a link http://www.westendwebs.net/susan/ My sympathies with going nuts :) - I had this same problem before. Here'

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I guess that's proof that most users never resize their windows. That's completely irrelevant. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d L

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/25/05, Al Sparber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > > > > Actually - I'm seeing it too - on two machines here in my office. > > Tanya > > LOL, it's a bloody conspiracy :-) > > This page: > http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/testing/minmax/cssp5.htm > > Impossible u

RE: [css-d] border in image link

2005-10-25 Thread John Potter
>trying to figure out how to get this one pixel border to be gone. >http://www.westendwebs.net/susan/ Change this (in undohtml.css): a img,:link img,:visited img { border:1px solid black; } to this: a img, a:link img, a:visited img {border:0} JohnP _

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Al Sparber
- Original Message - Actually - I'm seeing it too - on two machines here in my office. Tanya LOL, it's a bloody conspiracy :-) This page: http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/testing/minmax/cssp5.htm Impossible unless the config is far from standard. This is the only list where an

RE: [css-d] border in image link

2005-10-25 Thread Peter Williams
> From: Donna Jones > > really going nuts here trying to figure out how to get this one pixel > border to be gone. its the image/button on the left. she > wants it to > be a link seems like i've tried *everything* but i must not be > understanding or else forgetting something. > http://

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Tanya Renne
Actually - I'm seeing it too - on two machines here in my office. Tanya Al Sparber wrote: From: "Michael Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Al Sparber wrote: I see. So "flubber" tries to be identical to the example I just gave, but it's not scripted right, so it doesn't reload immediately. I'm

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Michael Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Al Sparber wrote: I see. So "flubber" tries to be identical to the example I just gave, but it's not scripted right, so it doesn't reload immediately. I'm sorry. I just don't understand what you are trying to say. The page works precisely as desig

Re: [css-d] width: auto vs 100% and height stuff, too

2005-10-25 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Mike Soultanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I also noticed that they do this: > >.modulecontainer div{border-style:solid;border-width:1px;margin:-2px >-8px;height:1em;} > >html>body .modulecontainer div{height:auto;} > >notice that they override in the height. However, in this case it's 1em >vs

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Michael Wilson
Al Sparber wrote: I see. So "flubber" tries to be identical to the example I just gave, but it's not scripted right, so it doesn't reload immediately. I'm sorry. I just don't understand what you are trying to say. The page works precisely as designed - to have a min-width of 720px and a max

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/25/05, Al Sparber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I thought the layout was "fixed" in IE myself until I reloaded the > > page. > > It seems that, at least in my Win XP, SP2, IE 6 installation, when I > > first load the page all is well regardle

Re: [css-d] aligning select box and submit gif

2005-10-25 Thread Richard Grevers
On 10/22/05, Geoff Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. I have a select box set up with a 20px image as > the submit button. I've tried several approaches to > get the select box and the button to line up so that > they're more or less vertically centered (the gif is > taller than the select

[css-d] border in image link

2005-10-25 Thread Donna Jones
Hi everyone: really going nuts here trying to figure out how to get this one pixel border to be gone. its the image/button on the left. she wants it to be a link seems like i've tried *everything* but i must not be understanding or else forgetting something. have taken out all code fo

Re: [css-d] Paragraph Control

2005-10-25 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:16 PM 10/25/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any 'correct' way to get paragraphs to remain block level elements but to only act as though there is a break tag between them? I have tried setting the margin-top to one negative em value ( P + P { margin-top: -1em; } ) and that seems t

Re: [css-d] modifying 3-column fluid layout for a fixed layout

2005-10-25 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Dova Wilson wrote: > Thierry, > > Thank you, I've taken your recommendation to set the width in pixels > on body and remove the width from all other elements. This seems to > have partially fixed the layout. > > However, something else seems to need a modification. Things are > working better, but

Re: [css-d] Paragraph Control

2005-10-25 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 10/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any 'correct' way to get paragraphs to remain block level elements > but to only act as though there is a break tag between them? I have tried > setting the margin-top to one negative em value ( P + P { margin-top: -1em; } > )

Re: [css-d] Paragraph Control

2005-10-25 Thread Eatme
Is there any 'correct' way to get paragraphs to remain block level elements but to only act as though there is a break tag between them? I have tried setting the margin-top to one negative em value ( P + P { margin-top: -1em; } ) and that seems to work pretty good but is there any other

[css-d] IE quirk vs standard mode for Auto

2005-10-25 Thread Abyss Information
Hi all, I just had a question, I was under the impression that IE6 does not like "margin:auto;", in any mode is it true? does this apply to both quirks mode and standards mode? Abyss __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:/

Re: [css-d] Directory of well designed css sites

2005-10-25 Thread Guillaume
Stylegala ( http://www.stylegala.com ) is all dedicated to this. Guillaume. Hi all, I am looking for a directory of well designed css sites. Anyone know of one? Thanks Craig __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-dis

[css-d] Why don't dropdowns change color?

2005-10-25 Thread Jim Ryan
Hi All, on: http://www.geocities.com/jimcomx/1021_sub.htm there's a CSS/javascript dropdown on the right nav. I've got the dropdowns working...more or less, but I can't seem to make the subnavs a different color from the main ones. The dropdown code, which may be found in http://www.geocities.com/

RE: [css-d] Delivering a site on a PDA (How does Google do it?)

2005-10-25 Thread John Potter
>>I know that you can use the media 'handheld' in your stylesheets but >are Google using another mechanism/script to achieve this ? The Google script delivers a special PDA page to Pocket IE, but the (much better) NetFront sees the same page as desktop browsers - with the dreaded horizontal scrol

[css-d] Paragraph Control

2005-10-25 Thread christianz
Is there any 'correct' way to get paragraphs to remain block level elements but to only act as though there is a break tag between them? I have tried setting the margin-top to one negative em value ( P + P { margin-top: -1em; } ) and that seems to work pretty good but is there any other method t

[css-d] modifying 3-column fluid layout for a fixed layout

2005-10-25 Thread Dova Wilson
Thierry, Thank you, I've taken your recommendation to set the width in pixels on body and remove the width from all other elements. This seems to have partially fixed the layout. However, something else seems to need a modification. Things are working better, but I have the following problems:

[css-d] Jello, but only some of it

2005-10-25 Thread Mette Haahr
Hi, I am working on this site: http://www.cree8.dk/oktober/02.shtml What I want to to accomplish is to have to content and sidebar-b to be flexible to a minimum width of 750, but keeping the sidebar-a (with the menu) fixed, so that it still aligns nicely with the header-img. Is this possible? __

Re: [css-d] CSS Validation

2005-10-25 Thread Vicki Stebbins
At 10:38 PM 25/10/2005, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Nick Fitzsimons wrote: Frankly, it's a pretty useless warning in most cases. It would be better to describe it as a hint: "Make sure you're really doing what you wanted to do, and if you are, ignore this." IMO: the same can be said about all [err

Re: [css-d] Directory of well designed css sites

2005-10-25 Thread Schalk
Craig Have a look at this one:http://www.cssbeauty.com/index.php Craig Main wrote: Hi all, I am looking for a directory of well designed css sites. Anyone know of one? Thanks Craig __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Christian Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I thought the layout was "fixed" in IE myself until I reloaded the page. It seems that, at least in my Win XP, SP2, IE 6 installation, when I first load the page all is well regardless of my browser size. If, however, I resize the browser (especiall

[css-d] Background image problem + width problem firefox/IE

2005-10-25 Thread Lowen Fan
Hi, This thing is driving me nuts, I tried copying from other websites but it doesn't work.. and I dcan't seem to find my problem on the web. What I'm trying is this, I have 1 container on the left, holding the content, but next to it I want to place an image by using css background image propert

[css-d] How to Learn About Cross-Browser Compatibility ?

2005-10-25 Thread Robin Whitman
Hello, Now that my CSS page looks good in Firefox browser, what can I do about getting it to work in other browsers? ... Can someones suggest some tutorials or articles that can teach this subject? Thanks again ... Robin Whitman, Student Intern Youthtopia.Org | Towards A Sustainable Lifestyle h

Re: [css-d] Directory of well designed css sites

2005-10-25 Thread Jan Brasna
http://www.cssbeauty.com http://www.stylegala.com http://www.plasticpilots.com/ http://www.cssdrive.com/ http://www.cssvault.com/ http://www.cssimport.com/ http://www.unmatchedstyle.com/ http://www.nv30.com/mt/blogomania/ http://www.cssdesign.se/ http://www.webstandardsawards.com/ http://www.scr

Re: [css-d] Directory of well designed css sites

2005-10-25 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/25/05, Craig Main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am looking for a directory of well designed css sites. Anyone know of one? > > Thanks > Craig > __ Go here: http://www.dontmeetyourheroes.com/ on the right, under

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/25/05, Michael Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Al Sparber wrote: > > Christian Montoya wrote: > >>OK, but when testing this "flubber" layout in IE, I see that it's > >>fixed. > > > LOL, it's not fixed :-) Test it again. Do you have an unfixed > > stanalone IE installation per chance? > >

Re: [css-d] Directory of well designed css sites

2005-10-25 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Hi all, > > I am looking for a directory of well designed css sites. Anyone know of one? A lot. The question is what is "well designed"? Pretty in the oldschool print design sense or flexible and bulletproof in the modern web design sense? http://www.cssbeauty.com http://www.stylegala.com http:

Re: [css-d] Directory of well designed css sites

2005-10-25 Thread Keith Sader
Were there not any on the wiki?: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ On 10/25/05, Craig Main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I am looking for a directory of well designed css sites. Anyone know of one? > > Thanks > Craig > _

Re: [css-d] CSS problem in IE

2005-10-25 Thread Ingo Chao
Matthew Hackett wrote: I took the image out of the tag. For some sites where i create pages upon pages i sometimes use dreamweaver to replicate the pages to save time, this is why the image was within the tag. I removed the image from the tag and have tried removing the position:relative, whi

[css-d] Directory of well designed css sites

2005-10-25 Thread Craig Main
Hi all, I am looking for a directory of well designed css sites. Anyone know of one? Thanks Craig __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/

Re: [css-d] What happens to form input

2005-10-25 Thread Alan Chandler
On Tuesday 25 Oct 2005 19:05, Alan Chandler wrote: > I am trying to layout the form in an application that I have built. PS: here is an approximation of what I am trying to achieve. I have the Home Page working, I am now trying to work on the "Edit Page" http://home.chandlerfamily.org.uk/images

[css-d] 3-col problem - won't align at top

2005-10-25 Thread Theresa Mesa
I am cleaning up this site done by someone else. The client really likes it and doesn't want to change it...much. I'm going to break the contact info and form onto a different page, and make the site a little more search engine friendly. I have this one area that is causing me no end of trouble. I

[css-d] What happens to form input

2005-10-25 Thread Alan Chandler
I am trying to layout the form in an application that I have built. The basic page layout is (currently - I can change it if I want) http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk Open Source. It's the difference between trust and antitrust.

Re: [css-d] Mac Problem (site causes browser crash)

2005-10-25 Thread Adam Kuehn
Shane Porter wrote: Following a site check (thanks everyone), it transpires that the site: http://www.freshclickmedia.com/previews/endo/home.htm causes a browser crash on the Apple Mac (reported specifically on IE 5.2.3, but I'm now concerned about other mac browsers.) The CSS is at: http://

[css-d] Floats Problem

2005-10-25 Thread Les Mizzell
Pages in Question: http://www.christyfulmer.com/bio.cfm and http://www.christyfulmer.com/portfolio.cfm Looks almost exactly like they're supposed to in IE. But, in Firefox, the leftmost float wants to pop down to the bottom. I've left *plenty* of lose space in there, so combined widths of the

[css-d] New article on PIE - "In Search of the One True Layout"

2005-10-25 Thread Alex Robinson
Position Is Everything has just published an article by me that should be of interest to people on css-d. It's titled "In Search of the One True Layout" and explains how you can: * display columns (as many as you like) in any order * have equal height columns without having to use faux columns

Re: [css-d] CSS problem in IE

2005-10-25 Thread Ingo Chao
Matthew Hackett wrote: I'm new to the group ... Hi Matthew. ... It involves an image loading and occasionally jumping across the page to the left and covering up the navigation ... http://www.colourgen.com/printers/kodak_1200i_offer.php (keep refreshing the page until it goes wrong) .

Re: [css-d] Positioning in Opera

2005-10-25 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, October 25, 2005, 10:36:39 AM, Denise Hartmann wrote: > It works in IE, Firefox, but it is off a few pixels in Opera. Without too much investigation I'm guessing you're running into Opera's use of padding instead of margin on BODY. Replace: body { background-color: #22; background-i

Re: [css-d] Using of tbody.

2005-10-25 Thread Brian Foley
* Graham Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] on [24-10-05] wrote: > Your problem cannot be solved without adding a class to the cells you want > to have with the border-top. The basic problem is that IE doesn't recognise > child selectors. Refer my example below. Ffox will show the first td with > red top bord

[css-d] Re: safari unordered lists--margin left

2005-10-25 Thread Reese @ M2 Web Studios
From: "webmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi there Reese, I'm pretty new to CSS AND I don't have a MAC to test this on. I'll just put it out and take my lumps as they come. I put a margin-right on the feature box (the box floated left) and removed the left-margin on the li (margin-left: 0;). Jus

[css-d] Positioning in Opera

2005-10-25 Thread Denise Hartmann
Hello, I was trying to be tricky and I created a site with both a border, then an image of a line that faded from the border color to black over it for illusion sake. I absolutely positioned the line over the part of the border I wanted to fade out. It works in IE, Firefox, but it is off a few pix

Re: [css-d] problem with caption box

2005-10-25 Thread David Laakso
Trish Meyer wrote: I've spent all afternoon studying how to do a box with a caption in it, following the advice at http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0208.htm [...] Trish Trish. You might take a look at these methods for setting images and captions(note the file is 4.01 cons

Re: [css-d] Mac Problem (site causes browser crash)

2005-10-25 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 25 Oct 2005, at 4:40 pm, Shane Porter wrote: Following a site check (thanks everyone), it transpires that the site: http://www.freshclickmedia.com/previews/endo/home.htm causes a browser crash on the Apple Mac (reported specifically on IE 5.2.3, but I'm now concerned about other mac br

[css-d] CSS problem in IE

2005-10-25 Thread Matthew Hackett
Hi, I'm new to the group and have recently started on CSS positioned sites. I have stumbled across a problem with floating an image and wondered if anyone here can help because i haven't had much luck anywhere else. The problem only happens some of the time and ONLY in Internet Explorer. It in

Re: [css-d] CSS Validation

2005-10-25 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Nick Fitzsimons wrote: Frankly, it's a pretty useless warning in most cases. It would be better to describe it as a hint: "Make sure you're really doing what you wanted to do, and if you are, ignore this." IMO: the same can be said about all [error] and [warning] messages. If you know what you

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Michael Wilson
Al Sparber wrote: Christian Montoya wrote: OK, but when testing this "flubber" layout in IE, I see that it's fixed. LOL, it's not fixed :-) Test it again. Do you have an unfixed stanalone IE installation per chance? Hi, I thought the layout was "fixed" in IE myself until I reloaded the pag

Re: [css-d] Good looking fluid-width sites

2005-10-25 Thread Al Sparber
Christian Montoya wrote: No, really, I swear this "flubber" layout is fixed on IE 6, 1600px resolution. Did you do something wrong? I mean, I see the Javascript in the source that should make it fluid, but it's really not doing anything! Max-width: #pagewrapper { margin: 0 auto; width: auto; m

Re: [css-d] CSS Validation

2005-10-25 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> The answer to put a background color into everything doesn't quite work > for > me, when I get the error: > 'You have no background-color with your color : p ' Note that it isn't an error: it's just a warning. Try introducing some non-valid CSS into a stylesheet, then validate it: the invalid b

FF display problems was: Re: [css-d] Why oh why :(

2005-10-25 Thread Kristina Floyd
Abyss Abyss Information wrote: > what the problem is if i place a "padding:10px" in the "CntBodyText" then it forces the box out in firefox..causing it too be outside the background image (image images are the > same width as described) > > it displays beautifully in IE (which is scarey..) can

Re: [css-d] Why oh why :(

2005-10-25 Thread Eatme
what the problem is if i place a "padding:10px" in the "CntBodyText" then it forces the box out in firefox..causing it too be outside the background image (image images are the same width as described) I did not test your code, but it seems obvious to me that you are not taking into cons

[css-d] Mac Problem (site causes browser crash)

2005-10-25 Thread Shane Porter
Hi all, Following a site check (thanks everyone), it transpires that the site: http://www.freshclickmedia.com/previews/endo/home.htm causes a browser crash on the Apple Mac (reported specifically on IE 5.2.3, but I'm now concerned about other mac browsers.) The CSS is at: http:

[css-d] Why oh why :(

2005-10-25 Thread Abyss Information
hi all... i have struggled to figure out what this is displaying wrong :( arg it just wont work could someone please send me a life line please css #CntBody { Margin:0px; Padding:0px; Width:760px; border:1px solid #000; } #CntBodyText { Background-Image: URL(../../

SV: [css-d] Delivering a site on a PDA (How does Google do it?)

2005-10-25 Thread Anders Rasmussen
Hi, You could perhaps do with some Javascript like navigator.userAgent combined with navigator.appVersion to find out what OS and browser your visitors are using, and then redirect accordingly. var useragent = navigator.userAgent; var browser = navigator.appName; var vers

Re: [css-d] problem with caption box

2005-10-25 Thread Trish Meyer
Hi all, I've spent all afternoon studying how to do a box with a caption in it, following the advice at http://css.maxdesign.com.au/floatutorial/tutorial0208.htm However, I'm running into a few problems/questions. So I must be missing something... First off, because you have to specify the

Re: [css-d] CSS Validation

2005-10-25 Thread Vicki Stebbins
Many thanks Christian, It's certainly off-putting when the pages showed without the warnings and then suddenly, boom! David sent a link to a previous post which I hadn't received explaining the warnings. Now I've gone through them and yes you are quite right, about the warnings and my CSS