Re: [css-d] Two-column site breaking on some pages only on IE6

2008-01-27 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 27 Jan 2008, at 17:27, Thierry Koblentz wrote: >> On Behalf Of Geoffrey Sneddon >> >> On my site the home page manages to display >> fine in IE6, but a single post (e.g., > interoperability-html-5-and-ogg >>> ) gets displayed with the sidebar

Re: [css-d] Internet Explorer and Collapsing Margins?

2008-01-27 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> I have a couple issues. In Internet Explorer, the > #popupmenu div shows up on the right rather than the > left. I have no idea why. It displays properly in > all other browsers I've checked. > > Here's a screenshot: > http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/Assets/Images/internetexplorer.png >

[css-d] Internet Explorer and Collapsing Margins?

2008-01-27 Thread David Terrell
Hello All, I have a couple issues. In Internet Explorer, the #popupmenu div shows up on the right rather than the left. I have no idea why. It displays properly in all other browsers I've checked. Here's a screenshot: http://www.cometothewell.org/newsite/Assets/Images/internetexplorer.png Th

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table (my 5c)

2008-01-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote: > [...] So based on what Eric states on that page, a strict doctype > requires that the correct CSS specifications to be applied to an > element such as the img in question. > > However almost standard mode does not necessarily requires it in SOME > cases like above. > >

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table (my 5c)

2008-01-27 Thread Zach Shepherd
I may be the only one who feels this way, but what started as a reasonable question has become very off topic (DTDs have nothing to do with CSS). I say this not only because off topic messages are considered annoying by some, but also because it means you are asking the wrong group of people. Those

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table (my 5c)

2008-01-27 Thread DAVOUD TOHIDY
>Rafel wrote: > David, please configure your e-mail client... well I am using hotmail and i am not sure How I can do that...lol but I will look at the options to see what I can do there. >The paragraph above looks like a possible answer to me...How about you? But it is not to me. It is not

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table (my 5c)

2008-01-27 Thread DAVOUD TOHIDY
> on Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:29:14 Georg wrote: > Because someone decided that it would break (a small part of) the web. > So, they introduced the "almost standard" mode and used "Transitional" > doctypes as switch. > > See: http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/01/24/almost-target/ > ...for

Re: [css-d] IE Horizontal centering problems and a couple of other IE issues

2008-01-27 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Toby Curl wrote: > http://pi3.co.uk/design_test/index.html > http://pi3.co.uk/design_test/screenshots/ > > 1) The menu and logo layout. The text is off center slightly and so > long text gets cut off (in IE7 see msie-7.0_index_1.jpg) or the > button stretches and repeats the image so looks odd

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table

2008-01-27 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 27 Jan 2008, at 18:52, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: > Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: > >> The DOCTYPE trigger a non-standardised switch, which affects both >> HTML >> and CSS (and, to a lesser extent, DOM). It is a de-facto standard >> implemented very, very, very similarly across all major browsers. >

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table (my 5c)

2008-01-27 Thread DAVOUD TOHIDY
Thanks Susanne, yes liorean answered it already and Eric describe it on that page as well. I asked another question , and I don't want to repeat myself please reply to my post that I sent based on liorean's comment. thanks davoud> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:38:46 +0100 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table

2008-01-27 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: > The DOCTYPE trigger a non-standardised switch, which affects both HTML > and CSS (and, to a lesser extent, DOM). It is a de-facto standard > implemented very, very, very similarly across all major browsers. What? Are you kidding? Or do you mean the "de-facto standard" o

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table

2008-01-27 Thread DAVOUD TOHIDY
on Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:06:53 Geoffrey Sneddon wrote: > The DOCTYPE trigger a non-standardised switch, which affects both HTML > and CSS (and, to a lesser extent, DOM). It is a de-facto standard > implemented very, very, very similarly across all major browsers. do you mean when we use th

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table (my 5c)

2008-01-27 Thread DAVOUD TOHIDY
That is exactly true. Thanks a lot for helping me out liorean. Now let me ask another question. Why img elements defaulting to display:inline only in strict dtd? why this does not happen in loose dtd or quirks mode? davoud, P.S.: sorry liorean, i needed to reply to the list. > Date: Sun, 27

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table

2008-01-27 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 27 Jan 2008, at 16:10, DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote: >>> >>> Are you suggesting that it is the browser which defines the >>> standards? >>> Are you suggesting that it is the browser which decides to assign >>> the >>> gap for the image not the strict dtd? > >> Yes – go and look through the DTD, you

Re: [css-d] IE Horizontal centering problems and a couple of other IE issues

2008-01-27 Thread Toby Curl
Thanks for all the help. I have now added a doctype and fixed the site (mostly). The main issues are now with the index page in IE. http://pi3.co.uk/design_test/index.html http://pi3.co.uk/design_test/screenshots/ 1) The menu and logo layout. The text is off center slightly and so long text get

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table (my 5c)

2008-01-27 Thread DAVOUD TOHIDY
o.k thanks a lot for everybody's contribution so far. Let me ask you a question. Suppose we use a strict doctype. Back to the image gap example. Now browsers encounter the strict doctype: I would like to know what happens that makes browsers insert the gap in strict mode? davoud

Re: [css-d] Two-column site breaking on some pages only on IE6

2008-01-27 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> On Behalf Of Geoffrey Sneddon > > On my site the home page manages to display > fine in IE6, but a single post (e.g., interoperability-html-5-and-ogg > >) gets displayed with the sidebar above the main content. The markup > is almost totally id

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table

2008-01-27 Thread DAVOUD TOHIDY
> > Are you suggesting that it is the browser which defines the standards? > > Are you suggesting that it is the browser which decides to assign the > > gap for the image not the strict dtd? > Yes – go and look through the DTD, you will find nothing to do with > rendering at all in it. Are you

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table (my 5c)

2008-01-27 Thread Rafael
DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote: > on Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:22:38 Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > > >> 'The standards' (and the doctypes) were not written with differences >> in 'rendering' in mind. >> > > is this what you know or you believe? is there anything documented > about this statement?

[css-d] Two-column site breaking on some pages only on IE6

2008-01-27 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
Hi, On my site the home page manages to display fine in IE6, but a single post (e.g., ) gets displayed with the sidebar above the main content. The markup is almost totally identical, and all the elements with

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table

2008-01-27 Thread Geoffrey Sneddon
On 27 Jan 2008, at 14:22, DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote: > > on Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:22:38 Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > >> 'The standards' (and the doctypes) were not written with differences >> in 'rendering' in mind. > > is this what you know or you believe? is there anything documented > about th

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table

2008-01-27 Thread DAVOUD TOHIDY
on Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:22:38 Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > 'The standards' (and the doctypes) were not written with differences > in 'rendering' in mind. is this what you know or you believe? is there anything documented about this statement? and how a standard can be written without

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table

2008-01-27 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jan 27, 2008, at 6:34 PM, DAVOUD TOHIDY wrote: > So I believe when they wrote the standards, they already knew what > the differences are between different URIs in different doctypes. > > I am hoping that w3c might have documented those differences somewhere > and that is what I am looking for

Re: [css-d] Doctypes rendering comparision table

2008-01-27 Thread DAVOUD TOHIDY
@ Zach: Thanks a lot for the link Zach . A wonderfull article and definitely a keeper and provides some really good information. However I need more broad comparision table of different doctypes in STANDARD modes. My question is a standards specific questionrather than browser specific one.

Re: [css-d] Positioning within a table cell?

2008-01-27 Thread L. David Baron
On Saturday 2008-01-26 22:05 -0800, L. David Baron wrote: > I think it's well-defined but the browsers are buggy. Firefox is Er, I clearly didn't read the spec clearly enough. The sentence about it being explicitly undefined is pretty new, though. I suspect it was added because of the borders i