Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Gresley wrote: Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: If a browser can't stack various layers of one element together in the right order on top of all layers of another element, without explicitly being told to group and stack element layers by using a nonsensical property/value for the case, then it

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-07 Thread Alan Gresley
Gunlaug Sørtun[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alan Gresley wrote: I know the fix/bug. As I said previously this is deeper. Not deeper than how a rendering engine (all rendering engines) splits up and treats elements as a set of layers which are stacked in a certain order depending on rules - of which

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Gresley wrote: http://css-class.com/articles/ursidae/bears5ddh-kbaccess.htm Sorry, no use for testing anything, since you've tailored it to only target the anchors - not every element in the page. I'll do deep testing of IE8' element-layer stacking and handling when I get around to

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Gresley wrote: Why does IE8 take 25 minutes to install! Would take ages to download at my end anyway, so I won't bother with this beta version. Well hasLayout, the float bugs, the margins bugs, Sticky hover bug, Guillotine bug, Escaping float bug, Peekaboo bug, Relative position bug

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] discuss.org] On Behalf Of Gunlaug Sørtun Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 7:17 AM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken Alan Gresley wrote: Why does IE8 take 25 minutes to install

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Alan Gresley wrote: Well hasLayout, the float bugs, the margins bugs, Sticky hover bug, Guillotine bug, Escaping float bug, Peekaboo bug, Relative position bug and z-index stacking order bugs are all fix. Hooray! Well, yes, it's really nice to see so many

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Ingo Chao
Its cool to have the option to see a page live in one of the three compatibility modes you choose (Quirks, Strict IE7, and Standards IE8) when the developer tools are opened. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html http://www.dolphinsback.com

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Gresley
Bruno Fassino wrote: Well, yes, it's really nice to see so many things fixed :-)) I haven't checked too much, but re floats, I confirm that there are some new problems with the clearing. They range from the simple fact that a clearing br doesn't work [1], to the fact that floats moved

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Alan Gresley wrote: [2] http://brunildo.org/test/clear.html (last test case) The second test case (6th and 7th example) show display:table doubling your border on class=nextdiv. It should be 8px where IE8 is showing 16px. So something is awfully wrong

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Gresley
Gunlaug_Sørtun wrote: Alan Gresley wrote: Well hasLayout, the float bugs, the margins bugs, Sticky hover bug, Guillotine bug, Escaping float bug, Peekaboo bug, Relative position bug and z-index stacking order bugs are all fix. Hooray!

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] discuss.org] On Behalf Of Bruno Fassino Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 9:02 AM To: Alan Gresley Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Alan Gresley wrote

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 5:18 PM +0100 3/6/08, Bruno Fassino wrote: I haven't checked too much, but re floats, I confirm that there are some new problems with the clearing. They range from the simple fact that a clearing br doesn't work [1]... [1] http://brunildo.org/test/FloatContainer2.html Bruno, could you

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On Thu, March 6, 2008 7:07 pm, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Yep, the only issues I had to fix were related to the ieMac rules being picked up and the links not being hot: I'm curious as to why you would be fixing any of your own code to cater for this early beta? The idea is that if your existing,

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] discuss.org] On Behalf Of Nick Fitzsimons Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org; 'Bruno Fassino'; 'Alan Gresley' Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:24 PM, Eric A. Meyer wrote: At 5:18 PM +0100 3/6/08, Bruno Fassino wrote: I haven't checked too much, but re floats, I confirm that there are some new problems with the clearing. They range from the simple fact that a clearing br doesn't work [1]... [1]

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Gresley
Thierry Koblentz wrote: On Behalf Of Nick Fitzsimons On Thu, March 6, 2008 7:07 pm, Thierry Koblentz wrote: Yep, the only issues I had to fix were related to the ieMac rules being picked up and the links not being hot: I'm curious as to why you would be fixing any of your own code

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Gresley
Bruno Fassino wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Alan Gresley wrote: [2] http://brunildo.org/test/clear.html (last test case) The second test case (6th and 7th example) show display:table doubling your border on class=nextdiv. It should be 8px where IE8 is showing 16px.

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] discuss.org] On Behalf Of Alan Gresley Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org; 'Bruno Fassino'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken Thierry

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alan Gresley wrote: Gunlaug_Sørtun wrote: http://tjkdesign.com/test/ie8/links.asp That the same issue as I'm having with my menu. http://css-class.com/articles/ursidae/bears5ddh-kbaccess.htm It is similar as with IE6 requiring hasLayout and display:block on anchors to make the

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Gresley
Thierry Koblentz wrote: I agree with Nick here. The band pass filter will be fixed in later beta. Currently I think you can use this approach (untested). imho, the fact that the band pass filter will be fixed or not is irrelevant, because in any case I won't have anything more to do.

Re: [css-d] IE8 is better but still slightly broken

2008-03-06 Thread Alan Gresley
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Alan Gresley wrote: Gunlaug_Sørtun wrote: http://tjkdesign.com/test/ie8/links.asp That the same issue as I'm having with my menu. http://css-class.com/articles/ursidae/bears5ddh-kbaccess.htm It is similar as with IE6 requiring hasLayout and