Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Adams
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 00:27:20 +0200 Manfred Staudinger wrote: > On 15/04/2008, Bill Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You can use this syntax to target all NON-MSIE browsers: > > > > @import url("css/fix/non_msie.css"); > > > > Thats definitely an unnecessary hack. The correct (although >

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-16 Thread Alan Gresley
Bill Brown wrote: > Hi John, > > You can use this syntax to target all NON-MSIE browsers: > > @import url("css/fix/non_msie.css"); > > > Use this syntax to target ALL MSIE browsers: > > > And this will target specific versions of MSIE browsers: > > > > CSS in the last three will not be se

Re: [css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-16 Thread Michael Adams
On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:41:56 +0200 Ingo Chao wrote: > Carol Huddleston wrote: > > ..., > > http://home.comcast.net/~prairiedream/beginning/faux.html > > ... > > My problem right now is that the background image isn't showing at > > all. I have faux.gif in a folder titled "images" like this: > >

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-16 Thread Manfred Staudinger
On 16/04/2008, Bill Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I could not more *strongly* disagree with you, and I'm not sure why you are > calling my syntax "incorrect" or "unnecessary" either. If they both do the > same thing, mine not only appears (to me, at least) to be more elegant, but > is shorter

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3ccompliant browsers?

2008-04-16 Thread James Leslie
Can anyone explain why you would want to target all non-IE browsers and then all IE browsers? Surely you just use a normal stylesheet fed to all browsers and then add IE conditional comments to sort out issues with the IE versions? If you need to put in fixes for all browsers, then surely the or

Re: [css-d] CSS background image not showing up

2008-04-16 Thread Alan K Baker
Although the *** Extract *** below is correct, it's ambiguous and misleading for our purposes. The following for the uninitiated: When you first browse to a URL without specifying a particular file e.g. www.webbwize.co.uk the browser will open index.html or index.htm whichever is present, and

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-16 Thread Ingo Chao
Nicholas Wilson wrote: > ... > > We have to start with: > > > > Now IE has started a comment, and think > they are not in a comment. In theory, yes. In fact IE erroneously believes that > ...seen by everything except IE... > This is not correct. It is seen by everything, including IE

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3ccompliant browsers?

2008-04-16 Thread Martin Sammtleben
At 10:05 +0100 16/4/08, James Leslie wrote: >Surely you just use a normal stylesheet fed to all browsers and then add >IE conditional comments to sort out issues with the IE versions? > >If you need to put in fixes for all browsers, then surely the original >stylesheet is wrong Exactly what I

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3c compliant browsers?

2008-04-16 Thread Manfred Staudinger
On 16/04/2008, James Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone explain why you would want to target all non-IE browsers and > then all IE browsers? More realistic example: assume you want to use css 2.1 selectors (those which are supported even by IE7). This makes it necessary to hide the ru

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3ccompliant browsers?

2008-04-16 Thread James Leslie
-Original Message- More realistic example: assume you want to use css 2.1 selectors (those which are supported even by IE7). This makes it necessary to hide the rules from IE6 and as a consequence you will end up with 2 very different stylsheets: one for IE6 and below and one for IE7 and F

Re: [css-d] How do you feed IE versions different css than w3ccompliant browsers?

2008-04-16 Thread Manfred Staudinger
On 16/04/2008, James Leslie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > > More realistic example: assume you want to use css 2.1 selectors (those > which are supported even by IE7). This makes it necessary to hide the > rules from IE6 and as a consequence you will end up with 2 ver

[css-d] Suckerfish Dropdown menu with opacity

2008-04-16 Thread Cristian Palmas
Hi All, I created a navbar using Suckerfish Dropdown menu with 3 levels and everything went well. After I added opacity feature for the second and the third level lists in order to make the banner be visible under the transparency of the menu. Obviously, in compliant browsers it's all good. But i

[css-d] checkbox margins

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel Kessler
I'm trying to set it up so that all checkboxes on my site have a margin or padding to the right. In my main css, I thought I could address the element and tried: checkbox {margin-right:40px; padding-right:40px;} It didn't work. If I made it into a class, it then worked but I would have to

Re: [css-d] checkbox margins

2008-04-16 Thread Jack Timmons
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Daniel Kessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to set it up so that all checkboxes on my site have a > margin or padding to the right. In my main css, I thought I could > address the element and tried: > checkbox {margin-right:40px; padding-right:40px;} >

Re: [css-d] checkbox margins

2008-04-16 Thread Christian Kirchhoff
The html code defining a checkbox should be similar to '' > > Thus the tag name itself is input, and not checkbox. So a css selector > for checkbox won't influence the checkbox. Input elements have an > attribute named "type" which can have different values like "text", > "radio", "checkbox", "

Re: [css-d] checkbox margins

2008-04-16 Thread STiplady | Mailing Lists
Checkbox is not an element, so you can not use "checkbox". Depending on the browsers you are targetting you could try input[type=checkbox] { margin-right: 40px; padding-right: 40px; } -Original Message- checkbox {margin-right:40px; padding-right:40px;} It didn't work. _

Re: [css-d] checkbox margins

2008-04-16 Thread James Leslie
-Original Message- I'm trying to set it up so that all checkboxes on my site have a margin or padding to the right. In my main css, I thought I could address the element and tried: checkbox {margin-right:40px; padding-right:40px;} It didn't work. If I made it into a class, it then work

[css-d] Conditional Commenting

2008-04-16 Thread Bill Brown
Wow, what a rumpus this stirred up. I just want to clarify a few things and then I'm gonna let this die. @Manfred: "Yes, there is a documentation about this proprietary syntax (as David Laakso has pointed out) http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537512(VS.85).aspx and certainly your inventi

Re: [css-d] Conditional Commenting

2008-04-16 Thread David Laakso
Bill Brown wrote: > Wow, what a rumpus this stirred up. > > > > All the best, > Bill > > Where else could one have this much fun for free...? I had a farm in Africa at the foot of the Ngong Hills. -- Isak Dinesen Out of Africa -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ _

Re: [css-d] Font-Family: Calibri, Verdana, ...

2008-04-16 Thread Mark Story
Sam Carter wrote: > Font-family: Calibri, Verdana, Ariel, sans-serif; > > Is there a solution which will size Calibri so it roughly matches Verdana > and Ariel (which works cross-browser)? > > (Calibri is a new MS font which renders about 20% smaller than Verdana.) > > There is no effective way,

Re: [css-d] checkbox margins

2008-04-16 Thread Daniel Kessler
On Apr 16, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Jack Timmons wrote: > Others may have a better idea, but since I can't see an exact > example if give a better answer, I'll go with this: > > Checkboxes are of type "input" first of all. If your lists have > classes, you can try something like: > > ul.classname inp

[css-d] Fwd: checkbox margins

2008-04-16 Thread Jack Timmons
Forwarded, because sometimes I'm a bit daft and didn't add the CSS list, and others might find the chart useful. -Jack -- Forwarded message -- From: Jack Timmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [css-d] checkbox margins To: Daniel Kessler <[EMAIL

Re: [css-d] Conditional Commenting

2008-04-16 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On Wed, April 16, 2008 3:07 pm, Bill Brown wrote: > Wow, what a rumpus this stirred up. > I just want to clarify a few things and then I'm gonna let this die. > > @Manfred: > "Yes, there is a documentation about this proprietary syntax > (as David Laakso has pointed out) > http://msdn2.microsoft.co

[css-d] Anchor color on an image with border="1"

2008-04-16 Thread Geoffrey Hoffman
I noticed that Firefox colorizes the border with the anchor color I specified, and a:hover turns that color also, but in IE7 I get default blue border. I already have a conditional comment in my page to deliver ie.css, but I'm not sure what to put into it because IE doesn't support :hover on images

Re: [css-d] Conditional Commenting

2008-04-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Bill Brown wrote: > Wow, what a rumpus this stirred up. I just want to clarify a few > things and then I'm gonna let this die. It was such an informative thread. Always good to know how others solve problems. One never knows when it may come handy. > First off, "future-proof" is the worst declar

Re: [css-d] Anchor color on an image with border="1"

2008-04-16 Thread Jack Timmons
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Geoffrey Hoffman < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I noticed that Firefox colorizes the border with the anchor color I > specified, and a:hover turns that color also, but in IE7 I get default > blue > border. > I already have a conditional comment in my page to delive

[css-d] Formatting Problem

2008-04-16 Thread Bill Guion
I've been reluctant to ask these questions, not because of any lack of faith in the wonderful people on this list, but because I can't give you the opportunity to see the page for yourself, and I don't think it's entirely fair to ask you to fix something you can't see. But, this has reached a p

Re: [css-d] Anchor color on an image with border="1"

2008-04-16 Thread Geoffrey Hoffman
Thanks Jack, this works in both FF & IE: a:link img, a:visited img { border:1px solid red; } a:hover img, a:active img { border:1px solid pink; } I always look for one rule that works everywhere before putting conditional rules in ie.css. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Jack Timmons <

[css-d] Horizontial Nav wrapping in IE

2008-04-16 Thread Wade Smart
04162008 1126 GMT-6 I have horizontal navigation that uses graphic button backgrounds in a . In IE the buttons are in vertical rows. li { display: inline; } #nav a { margin: auto; background: url("graphics/ButtonBackground.png"} no-repeat top left; text-align: center; } #nav a:hover { backgroun

[css-d] list style issues

2008-04-16 Thread Scharf, Edward L.
I'm hoping someone can help me with a list styling issue I'm having. I've created CSS dropdown navigation using the popular Suckerfish tutorial. It's currently on our home page: http://www.usi.edu. My problem is when I try to incorporate into a template - and then put a UL in the body of my pa

Re: [css-d] Nested floats render different accross browsers, who's right?

2008-04-16 Thread Alan Gresley
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > On Apr 16, 2008, at 12:55 AM, Alan Gresley wrote: > >> Gecko 1.7~1.8 and IE7 will show this behavior when a child element is >> floated right inside a parent element floated either left or right. >> >>

Re: [css-d] Horizontial Nav wrapping in IE

2008-04-16 Thread Jack Timmons
The culprit might be the fact you have a closing brace instead of paranthesis. Try: background: url("graphics/ButtonBackground.png") no-repeat top left; Instead. Also, there might be more to it (the CSS coding isn't my style, so I feel shaky about it), but the Chinese food in front of my face di

Re: [css-d] Horizontial Nav wrapping in IE

2008-04-16 Thread Jack Timmons
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Wade Smart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 04162008 1200 GMT-6 > > Oh, Jack, sorry about that. That is my fault. I didnt copy and paste - I > wrote it direct into the email. That brace is a ) and not a } in the code. > > Wade > > > > Jack Timmons wrote: > > > The cul

Re: [css-d] list style issues

2008-04-16 Thread Valerie Wininger
Ed, You aren't using a specific enough selector to target the ul in the content. Try this: #template-center ul li a:hover { background-image:none; display:inline; text-decoration:underline; } This will remove the styling that you have applied in the nav menu. Also,

Re: [css-d] Formatting Problem

2008-04-16 Thread Jack Timmons
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Bill Guion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been reluctant to ask these questions, not because of any lack > of faith in the wonderful people on this list, but because I can't > give you the opportunity to see the page for yourself, and I don't > think it's entir

[css-d] Wierd formatting issue in one laptop using IE6

2008-04-16 Thread Nancy Johnson
I am in the process of converting an old site from tabular with lots of nested tables to CSS. This site is a challenge because it a very tight fixed-width site. Before we went live with the first section, we tested in IE6 and IE7 as well as Firefox and Safari on several computers over an over and

Re: [css-d] Wierd formatting issue in one laptop using IE6

2008-04-16 Thread David Laakso
Nancy Johnson wrote: > My supervisor is home sick and I got a call from him telling me that > the dark gray content area on the right displayed below the left nav > on the left ONLY on his laptop when using IE6 and ONLY if the > text-size was medium. It worked fine in larger, largest, smaller, an

Re: [css-d] Formatting Problem

2008-04-16 Thread Alan K Baker
Errmmm. Actually IE7 does support fixed positioning. What I'm looking for is an absolute rock-solid workaround for IE6. Regards, Alan. www.theatreorgans.co.uk www.virtualtheatreorgans.com Admin: ConnArtistes, UKShopsmiths, 2nd Touch & A-P groups Shopsmith 520 + bits Flatulus Antiquitus -

Re: [css-d] Formatting Problem

2008-04-16 Thread Jack Timmons
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Alan K Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Errmmm. Actually IE7 does support fixed positioning. What I'm looking for > is an absolute rock-solid workaround for IE6. > > Regards, > > Alan. > > Apologies. Haven't used position:fixed enough to have noticed, but at lea

[css-d] Help with Openrealty

2008-04-16 Thread Chike Loney
Hi guys, probably nott the right place but does anyone know to or know of a resource tht I could edit openrealty to use with my current site? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device available from bmobile.

Re: [css-d] Formatting Problem

2008-04-16 Thread David Laakso
Alan K Baker wrote: > Errmmm. Actually IE7 does support fixed positioning. What I'm looking for is > an absolute rock-solid workaround for IE6. > > Regards, > > Alan. > > www.theatreorgans.co.uk > I got lost. Is this your thread, or did you steal it? Regardless, Google, subject line: po

Re: [css-d] Wierd formatting issue in one laptop using IE6

2008-04-16 Thread Ryan Doherty
A sometimes-common problem with laptop screens is that some are 'high-res' (higher dpi than a normal monitor). I've seen some layouts look funky because pixel/em/% calculations might be different if the screen is a higher dpi. It might be worth researching the laptop model to see if he has

Re: [css-d] Help with Openrealty

2008-04-16 Thread Jim Nannery
Afaternoon Chick You wrote: Hi guys, probably nott the right place but does anyone know to or know of a resource tht I could edit openrealty to use with my current site? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Unless I'm missing the CSS part of this question, you might get better r

Re: [css-d] Wierd formatting issue in one laptop using IE6

2008-04-16 Thread Bruno Fassino
Nancy Johnson wrote: > > My supervisor is home sick and I got a call from him telling me that > the dark gray content area on the right displayed below the left nav > on the left ONLY on his laptop when using IE6 and ONLY if the > text-size was medium. It worked fine in larger, largest, smaller,

Re: [css-d] Formatting Problem

2008-04-16 Thread Alan K Baker
- Original Message - From: David Laakso To: Alan K Baker Cc: css discuss Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [css-d] Formatting Problem I got lost. Is this your thread, or did you steal it? Regardless, Google, subject line: position fixed The first 10

Re: [css-d] Formatting Problem :: position fixed

2008-04-16 Thread David Laakso
Alan K Baker wrote: > > Regardless, Google, subject line: position fixed > The first 10 links deal with the problem and its solution. > > -- > > Neither. I replied to one item in the thread and made a small (request) > comment. > > I did try Google before and didn't find a really satisf

Re: [css-d] CSS Background Image Not Wide Enough

2008-04-16 Thread Carol Huddleston
Thank you, that worked perfectly! Carol On Apr 15, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Kepler Gelotte wrote: >> The width of the image is supposed to total 760 pixels >> (180px for the dark gray column, 20 px blank, then 560px for the >> light gray column). > > Hi, > > I think you calculated your width incorrectl

Re: [css-d] Formatting Problem :: position fixed

2008-04-16 Thread Alan K Baker
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/bmerkey/examples/fake-position-fixed.html Regards, Alan. www.theatreorgans.co.uk www.virtualtheatreorgans.com Admin: ConnArtistes, UKShopsmiths, 2nd Touch & A-P groups Shopsmith 520 + bits Flatulus Antiquitus - Original Message - From: David Laakso