Re: [css-d] Question about the list

2005-08-30 Thread Scott Glasgow
Adam Kuehn wrote: Scott Glasgow wrote: If I hit Reply All, it does go to the list, but sends a separate copy to the sender (which can be annoying to the recipient, I would imagine). I checked again in my other lists, and Reply does indeed send to the list, not the sender. Is this something in

Re: [css-d] Simple two columns

2005-08-30 Thread Stevio
Lol yeah I still believe in using tables at times for layout, so much more reliable and simple and does what you expect and you don't need workarounds. Stephen - Original Message - From: Rob Agar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:29 AM How do I stop col2 wrapping

Re: [css-d] IE 5.5 problem

2005-08-30 Thread Bob Easton
Michael Wiggin wrote: Hi, I've tried to find the solution myself with no luck. I have a design that plays well with IE6, IE Mac5.2, Firefox(Mac PC), Safari, and Opera(Mac) but breaks in IE 5.5. The problem is the section just below a styled ul. I have a feeling that I may be missing

Re: [css-d] Is this an IE rendering error ?

2005-08-30 Thread Bob Easton
Tom Steenhuysen wrote: I have 2 strange things going on in trying to design a fluid 3 and 4 column : 1) the two columns in the middle are both 50% wide - but when you change the width of IE [drag the edge], then there seems to be an intermittent 1-pixel difference which drops the second

Re: [css-d] simple problem - difficult solution

2005-08-30 Thread Bob Easton
Ron Adams wrote: I have 2 divs on a page, and the top one is an unknown size, the bottom one must fill the rest of the space to the bottom of the browser window. How do I do this with CSS? A simplyfied example below. You can't. Divs expand to the height of their content (plus padding and

[css-d] Best IR technique ?

2005-08-30 Thread Guillaume
Hi all, could someone advise the best/safest Image Replacement (IR) technique to use: cross browser friendly, screen reader accessible. Seems the classic Todd Fahrner method is not catched safely by all screen readers and just fails if the server never sends the image. Another method

Re: [css-d] simple problem - difficult solution

2005-08-30 Thread andrew welch
On 8/30/05, Bob Easton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron Adams wrote: I have 2 divs on a page, and the top one is an unknown size, the bottom one must fill the rest of the space to the bottom of the browser window. How do I do this with CSS? A simplyfied example below. You can't. Divs

Re: [css-d] Best IR technique ?

2005-08-30 Thread Jan Brasna
BTW: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ImageReplacement A last method suggested by Pixy uses z-index and absolute positioning to cover the text with the replacing image. Is this last method safe and the best one ? This one is bulletproof. If you can live with it's non-semantic overhead,

[css-d] Site check please - Essie Croft

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Davies
Hi, I have a small problem with this site viewed in Opera and Firefox. Doesn't appear in IE/Win. There is a space above the horizontal navigation menu. The colours will be changed before going live but have been left to show the problem. Any assistance appreciated. TIA Regards, Mike Davies --

Re: [css-d] Simple two columns

2005-08-30 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] It seems like the simplest solution is the following: .col1 { width: 50%; float: left; } .col2 { width: 50%; float: left; } div class=col1Content/div div class=col2Content/div How do I stop col2 wrapping below col1 however when the browser window is shrunk

RE: [css-d] simple problem - difficult solution

2005-08-30 Thread CJ Larson
This[1] is a real issue and one that should have been addressed by the CSS spec. Setting a table to 100% high in IE in quirks mode makes the table the height of the screen, a really useful feature. This isn't available in standards mode, and there is *no* equivalent in a tableless design. No

[css-d] Re: Site check please - Essie Croft

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Davies
Hi, Apologies to all who responded. The site is at www.integra-server.co.uk/essie/ I have a small problem with this site viewed in Opera and Firefox. Doesn't appear in IE/Win. There is a space above the horizontal navigation menu. The colours will be changed before going live but have been left

Re: [css-d] simple problem - difficult solution

2005-08-30 Thread andrew welch
No need for quirks mode, I don't think. Set html,body{height:100%} (as well as your table) and you should be good to go in standards mode. Hmmm why does html and body need a height? That is surely a hack. I'll let others reply to the more specific height details of CSS, as I can get

Re: [css-d] Best IR technique ?

2005-08-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Guillaume wrote: Any other IR tricks to mention/point ? http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/tip.asp Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ --

Re[2]: [css-d] simple problem - difficult solution

2005-08-30 Thread Steve Clay
Tuesday, August 30, 2005, 10:00:05 AM, andrew welch wrote: Hmmm why does html and body need a height? That is surely a hack. Explanation: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/100percheight.html The requirement is that the header div must not scroll off the page, it should remain fixed at the

Re: [css-d] Best IR technique ?

2005-08-30 Thread !!blue
On 8/30/05, Guillaume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, --snip-- Any other IR tricks to mention/point ? Thanks. Guillaume. You know, I've tried a DOM technique[1] one with success. But don't know if it's screen reader accessible. Anyone know? But I had to change one part of the script:

Re: [css-d] simple problem - difficult solution

2005-08-30 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 3:00 PM +0100 8/30/05, andrew welch wrote: No need for quirks mode, I don't think. Set html,body{height:100%} (as well as your table) and you should be good to go in standards mode. Hmmm why does html and body need a height? That is surely a hack. Or, you know... not. Ok,

Re: [css-d] Question about the list - Public apology

2005-08-30 Thread Adam Kuehn
Scott Glasgow wrote: Adam Kuehn wrote: Scott Glasgow wrote: If I hit Reply All, it does go to the list, but sends a separate copy to the sender (which can be annoying to the recipient, I would imagine). [...] This page was written for you:

[css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Timothy J. Luoma
One day only ! Go here http://my.opera.com/community/party/reg.dml As seen here (blog of Opera employee) http://weblog.timaltman.com/node/791 No catch, except that these licenses don't get you premium support (i.e. direct email to/from Opera... but the forums and mailing lists have Opera

Re: [css-d] simple problem - difficult solution

2005-08-30 Thread andrew welch
Ok, I'll throw it open to the CSS experts. Two divs: divHeader/div divlots of content/div The requirement is that the header div must not scroll off the page, it should remain fixed at the top of the page. The content div will fill with content and should be scrollable vertically when

Re: [css-d] simple problem - difficult solution

2005-08-30 Thread David Laakso
divHeader/div divlots of content/div The requirement is that the header div must not scroll off the page, it should remain fixed at the top of the page. The content div will fill with content and should be scrollable vertically when needed. Anne van Kesteren post on fixed positioning with

Re: [css-d] pure css popups help

2005-08-30 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Steve wrote: problem with pure css popups in firefox (outta wak), and IE (pc) none at all . A quick google for pure css popups gives you this explanation of and fix for IE's bug as the second result: http://www.tanfa.co.uk/css/articles/pure-css-popups-bug.asp And this somewhat simpler

Re: [css-d] Site check please - Essie Croft

2005-08-30 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 8/30/05, Mike Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a space above the horizontal navigation menu. The colours will be changed before going live but have been left to show the problem. Adding: #navlist { margin: 0; padding: 0; list-style-type: none; } Should fix the problem... you forgot

Re: [css-d] application question

2005-08-30 Thread Ricky Zhou
I was wondering if anyone can suggest an affordable solution for designing logos/gifs (for FIR purposes)? For vector-based, Inkscape (http://www.inkscape.org/) is good (and open soure). Assuming that you're using windows (since you have microsoft paint), you can download a gui installer for GIMP

Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Tom Livingston
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:36:03 -0400, Timothy J. Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go here http:// apparently, everyone did go there. Servers are sure getting a beating -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client:

Re: [css-d] IE 5.5 problem

2005-08-30 Thread David Laakso
Hi, I've tried to find the solution myself with no luck. I have a design that plays well with IE6, IE Mac5.2, Firefox(Mac PC), Safari, and Opera(Mac) but breaks in IE 5.5. The problem is the section just below a styled ul. I have a feeling that I may be missing something obvious.

[css-d] site check: IE MAC

2005-08-30 Thread jeremy
Hi there... I am having some problems with this site on IE for Mac (no surprises..) The content is starting halfway down the page. http://tct2005.com/ I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction towards debugging the issue. thanks -jeremy

Re: [css-d] Question about the list - Public apology

2005-08-30 Thread Scott Glasgow
Thank you for your most gracious response, Adam. I am really enjoying the list and am constantly impressed with the knowledge and experience of the participants. My subfolders for saving messages containing tips, techniques, examples, etc. are growing like Topsy, and I anticipate learning a

Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread !!blue
On 8/30/05, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:36:03 -0400, Timothy J. Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go here http:// apparently, everyone did go there. Servers are sure getting a beating it won't give u the registration code if your using a browser

[css-d] Accessibility and font sizing

2005-08-30 Thread Scott Glasgow
Felix Miata wrote: ::SNIP:: Small equals approximately 88.75%, so the result due to the cascade is the p text is 88.75% X 80% X 90%, or 63.9%. To the poor IE user already requiring larger or largest text in the first place, you're making it (unless a rare user who knows how to locate and select

Re: [css-d] application question

2005-08-30 Thread Jono
Photoshop Elements is 95% as good as Photoshop and can be found for less than $80 if you shop around. Not free, but more than worth its price tag. Photoshop Elements: http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshopelwin/main.html For logos, I'd much (much) rather have a pure vector application such as

Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Mark Lundquist
On Aug 30, 2005, at 2:34 PM, !!blue wrote: it won't give u the registration code if your using a browser other than Opera. just in case you tried it like me and all you got were blank boxes. it worked fine for me from Safari... —ml—

RE: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Dean Matsueda
it won't give u the registration code if your using a browser other than Opera. just in case you tried it like me and all you got were blank boxes. Seems to work with Safari. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread patrick
!!blue wrote: On 8/30/05, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:36:03 -0400, Timothy J. Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go here http:// apparently, everyone did go there. Servers are sure getting a beating it won't give u the registration code if your using

Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Greg Morphis
Worked fine from Firefox On 8/30/05, Dean Matsueda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it won't give u the registration code if your using a browser other than Opera. just in case you tried it like me and all you got were blank boxes. Seems to work with Safari.

Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Scott Glasgow
Timothy J. Luoma wrote: One day only ! Go here http://my.opera.com/community/party/reg.dml ::SNIP:: TjL (not an employee, just an Opera Lover http://operalover.tntluoma.com/8/ temporarily coming up to share this news with some folks who I thought might be interested in it) Thanks, Timothy!

[css-d] replacing image map links with css

2005-08-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A friend has an image map that has certain hot spots that when pointed to, display some text and link to another page. This is done with javascript and sliced images. I was thinking this can be done with a background image and some links which are positioned relative to the container. He

Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Scott Glasgow
!!blue wrote: On 8/30/05, Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:36:03 -0400, Timothy J. Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go here http:// apparently, everyone did go there. Servers are sure getting a beating it won't give u the registration code if your using a

Re: [css-d] replacing image map links with css

2005-08-30 Thread Jan Brasna
Maybe http://alistapart.com/articles/imagemap/ ? -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ --

Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Felix Miata
!!blue wrote: it won't give u the registration code if your using a browser other than Opera. just in case you tried it like me and all you got were blank boxes. yeah I feel kinda foolish :-D It worked for me in SeaMonkey. At least, it gave me codes for all browser versions it offers.

RE: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Conyers, Dwayne
!!blue wrote: it won't give u the registration code if your using a browser other than Opera. I got one with IE6 -- just had to CTRL+F5 a few times to convince it to give. -- Dwacon www.dwacon.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL

Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Weyert de Boer
It worked fine for me the serial code works for me under Windows. __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ Supported by evolt.org --

[css-d] Redux: Opera is giving away the ad-free version of their browser for free

2005-08-30 Thread Scott Glasgow
For those who may have a problem getting to the site (some people have reported demand has affected availability), here's an alternate way to get your free registration, which depends only on email. Note the time frame during which the offer is valid. Cheers, Scott = To

[ADMIN] Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Alex Robinson
Opera giveaway - which browsers can get the reg keys Alright everybody, we get the picture. This thread will now cease since it has got nothing to do with CSS. Alex css-d moderator p.s. thanks Timothy for flagging this up in the first place

Re: [css-d] Simple two columns

2005-08-30 Thread Stevio
Rob, to be honest, that is the solution I have gone for after much messing about trying various suggested solutions. Trying to do simple columns in css is just too complicated (perhaps why there are oodles of pages on the net about finding perfect column solutions). The table solution is so

[ADMIN - OFF TOPIC] Re: [css-d] application question

2005-08-30 Thread Alex Robinson
I was wondering if anyone can suggest an affordable solution for designing logos/gifs (for FIR purposes)? Can this thread come to an end? If you want to discuss this, there are plenty of more suitable venues than css-d http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=OffTopic Frankly people, do not

Re: [css-d] replacing image map links with css

2005-08-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend has an image map that has certain hot spots that when pointed to, display some text and link to another page. This is done with javascript and sliced images. What about using CSS popups? http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/css%20pop%20ups/ Thierry |

[css-d] problem with nav bar

2005-08-30 Thread Matt Lemay
Hi all this will be my first post on this list. I am having a problem with a site I am building mostly using css. There is a left side navigation bar that is made up of .gif's, the last one having a height of 100% so it resizes with the content. The problem is it resizes irregularly sometimes

[css-d] Second Site Check, Please!

2005-08-30 Thread Kelly Miller
http://crystalsanctuary.rpgsource.net/designs/rpgsource/final/template2.htm I managed to fix the font problem and the problem with resizing the columns in IE. The site should now work without horizontal scrollbars in IE, but I'm looking for potential problems anywhere in the layout. Thanks

Re: [css-d] problem with nav bar

2005-08-30 Thread Tim Quinton
I'm no guru, but I'd take a look at getting rid of the javascript and do a css only menu. Here are some sites I used for info: http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/css/uberlinks/index.htm http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/css/css%5Ftd/ and

Re: [css-d] problem with nav bar

2005-08-30 Thread Kelly Miller
Matt Lemay wrote: Hi all this will be my first post on this list. I am having a problem with a site I am building mostly using css. There is a left side navigation bar that is made up of .gif's, the last one having a height of 100% so it resizes with the content. The problem is it resizes

RE: [css-d] Simple two columns

2005-08-30 Thread Rob Agar
Stevio: The table solution is so much more reliable, robust, doesn't break, and does what it says on the tin. yep, that's precisely the conclusion I came to. As a programmer, I *do* want to do things properly, but sometimes the correct way is way more painful than it should be. Maybe it's a

Re: [css-d] site check: IE MAC

2005-08-30 Thread Roger Roelofs
Jeremy, On Aug 30, 2005, at 2:57 PM, jeremy wrote: Hi there... I am having some problems with this site on IE for Mac (no surprises..) The content is starting halfway down the page. http://tct2005.com/ I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction towards debugging the

Re: [css-d] new to css

2005-08-30 Thread Roger Roelofs
Patrick, On Aug 29, 2005, at 9:38 PM, Patrick Roane wrote: I've been working on a site that is supposed to funtion as a pure liquid .css site: www.lessstressdoctor.com/test/index.html The problem I am having is with IE 5 and 5.2 for MAC. For some reason the words 'services' 'bio' and

Re: [css-d] trouble centering a span

2005-08-30 Thread Roger Roelofs
Josh, On Aug 29, 2005, at 3:07 PM, joshua hough wrote: Can someone take a quick look at http://lblesd.k12.or.us/test.php and http://lblesd.k12.or.us/default.css and help me to vertically and horizontally center the date stamp near the upper-right corner? It's outlined in red and currently

Re: [css-d] Opera ASA giving away license codes (1 day only!)

2005-08-30 Thread Phil Gohr
it won't give u the registration code if your using a browser other than Opera. just in case you tried it like me and all you got were blank boxes. yeah I feel kinda foolish :-D hmmm i used IE6 and had no prob getting the registration code.

Re: [css-d] Validation Error -moz-outline

2005-08-30 Thread Tracy Shorrock
Hi, I'm getting rid of the ugly outline that appears on an image when it's used as a link. It doesn't seem to be set to default, as when I don't set -moz-outline I get the ugly borders when I click the links. Cheers, Tracy On Wednesday, August 24, 2005, at 03:40 am, Peter Williams wrote:

Re: [css-d] Validation Error -moz-outline

2005-08-30 Thread Tracy Shorrock
Hi Philippe, Will do, thanks. As Zoe pointed out, it isn't causing a problem in browsers so I'm not going to worry about it too much... Cheers, and thanks to all who responded. Tracy On Wednesday, August 24, 2005, at 05:55 am, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: BTW, you're better off by first

Re: [css-d] trouble centering a span

2005-08-30 Thread Thierry Koblentz
joshua hough wrote: Can someone take a quick look at http://lblesd.k12.or.us/test.php and http://lblesd.k12.or.us/default.css and help me to vertically and horizontally center the date stamp near the upper-right corner? Joshua, You could try to put #date *before* your navigation bar in the

Re: [css-d] Validation Error -moz-outline

2005-08-30 Thread Kelly Miller
Tracy Shorrock wrote: I'm getting rid of the ugly outline that appears on an image when it's used as a link. It doesn't seem to be set to default, as when I don't set -moz-outline I get the ugly borders when I click the links. That ugly outline is actually a border, not an outline. Try