Re: [css-d] I think I need some hacks for IE...?

2006-04-20 Thread GypsiiRose Baptiste
Thank you Phillippe, those changes made all the difference to the layout. Now I will work on the top navigation with the file you sent. I really wanted to make the top tab with the navigation expand if or when somebody increased the text size, but I couldn't get it to work. On 4/19/06, Philippe

Re: [css-d] I think I need some hacks for IE...?

2006-04-20 Thread GypsiiRose Baptiste
When I view the modified file, the navigation buttons get stretched across the entire tab in IE/mac (v 5.2). I am on a Mac, and right now I don't have access to a PC... so I'm not sure if this works on the PC version of IE. It looks fine in Safari and Firefox still. This is the original:

Re: [css-d] I think I need some hacks for IE...?

2006-04-20 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:23 PM, GypsiiRose Baptiste wrote: When I view the modified file, the navigation buttons get stretched across the entire tab in IE/mac (v 5.2). I am on a Mac, and right now I don't have access to a PC... so I'm not sure if this works on the PC version of IE. It

Re: [css-d] I think I need some hacks for IE...?

2006-04-20 Thread GypsiiRose Baptiste
Oh my goodness, perfect! And I very much appreciate all the notes and links you included. I like to understand why I am doing something. So often, the books I have been reading don't explain the why behind the code, which is frustrating when I am trying to apply their techniques to other

[css-d] Table to CSS Challenge...

2006-04-20 Thread Ilie PANDIA
Hello to all, I am trying to create a layout for the site and I run into the following problem: I want to use div (or other elements) to create the same effect as using this table structure: table tr td width=50% Something /td td width=50% Something else/td /tr tr

Re: [css-d] I think I need some hacks for IE...?

2006-04-20 Thread ~davidLaakso
GypsiiRose Baptiste wrote: Is there anything else I should be testing in? Do people still test for Opera? Thank you so much, GR You are fine in Opera on my end, in both XP and Xandros Linux on XP. ~dL PS Is there anything other than Opera?

Re: [css-d] I think I need some hacks for IE...?

2006-04-20 Thread GypsiiRose Baptiste
aaah, thank you! I'm glad it works in Opera. sorry if I offended you, I guess I live a little too close to Mtn View, you know - where the Mozilla offices are! I must be brainwashed... On 4/20/06, ~davidLaakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are fine in Opera on my end, in both XP and Xandros

Re: [css-d] Table to CSS Challenge...

2006-04-20 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
I have tried to use to floating divs, one to the left and one to the right both with width 50%, and a static div. While this look OK on IE, is messed up on Mozzilla :( This is an easy effect to achieve. Check out the layoutgala entry: http://blog.html.it/layoutgala/LayoutGala27.html Prabhath

Re: [css-d] was look with a PC now: HELP

2006-04-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Terri Chicko wrote: Thank you Georg very much, Though every time I change something, something else breaks, now the footer is floating up in Win IE. See below. On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: 1: remove margins/paddings from body... 2: you may also add styles to the

[css-d] Can't Absolutely Position a Horizontal UL in layout

2006-04-20 Thread TMH Design
I am a bit perplexed on this and would appreciate some help. Please look at this site, www.shopthevitaminstore.com/index.php At the top I have a div called masthead within which I placed some items. Its essentially the header area. In that div I have an absolutely positioned ul with an id of

Re: [css-d] I think I need some hacks for IE...?

2006-04-20 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
GypsiiRose Baptiste wrote: aaah, thank you! I'm glad it works in Opera. sorry if I offended you, I guess I live a little too close to Mtn View, you know - where the Mozilla offices are! I must be brainwashed... Probably :-) Civilized Opera-users are not easily offended. They know their

[css-d] Equal Height Columns / One true layout and # top headaches

2006-04-20 Thread Georgi Varzonovtsev
Hi all, I have used the technique from http://positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/equalheight to make mu columns equal in height. Everything works great unless i try to reffer the users to a specific part of the document using http://example.com/page.html#specific-part

Re: [css-d] Can't Absolutely Position a Horizontal UL in layout

2006-04-20 Thread Els
TMH Design wrote: I am a bit perplexed on this and would appreciate some help. Please look at this site, www.shopthevitaminstore.com/index.php At the top I have a div called masthead within which I placed some items. Its essentially the header area. In that div I have an absolutely

[css-d] Site Horizontal Nav Way Out of Whack in Mac

2006-04-20 Thread TMH Design
Would somewith please look at this site, www.shopthevitaminstore.com/index.php in Safari on a Mac. The navigation looks ok in my IE6 and FF on my windows pc appears just fine. Here is my css code for the element. Thanks so much! ul#tabnav { list-style-type: none; padding:0; margin:0;

Re: [css-d] Equal Height Columns / One true layout and # top headaches

2006-04-20 Thread Alex Robinson
Georgi There is indeed a problem with equal height columns and anchors in Mozilla and IE. There'll be an update to the article addressing this - hopefully by the end of today. Alex __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [css-d] CSS validation tool question

2006-04-20 Thread David Dorward
On 19/04/06, Terri Chicko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However when I went to validate the CSS it's OK but I don't understand these warnings. What am I doing or not doing? Line : 12 (Level : 1) You have no color with your background-color : #strip #strip { background-color: black; } Once you

Re: [css-d] Equal Height Columns / One true layout and # top headaches

2006-04-20 Thread Georgi Varzonovtsev
Thank you Alex! But unfortunatelly what you say is that there is no fix for the problem. The case we've been having is even more complicated because we used _javascript to make columns equal and the _javascript makes them equal but only once - when the page is loaded. On some of the

Re: [css-d] Site Horizontal Nav Way Out of Whack in Mac - vitamin

2006-04-20 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/04/20 05:52 (GMT-0400) Thomas Hall (TMH Design) apparently typed: Would somewith please look at this site, www.shopthevitaminstore.com/ in Safari on a Mac. The navigation looks ok in my IE6 and FF on my windows pc appears just fine. Here is my css code for the element. Thanks so much!

Re: [css-d] Equal Height Columns / One true layout and # top headaches

2006-04-20 Thread Ingo Chao
Alex Robinson wrote: There is indeed a problem with equal height columns and anchors in Mozilla and IE. Alex, I hope the problem can be addressed with /* Hide these from IE6+7 via appropriate CC hacking */ #targetcage { /* just a block placeholder for the a.p. anchor */ /*

Re: [css-d] Equal Height Columns / One true layout and # top headaches

2006-04-20 Thread Alex Robinson
I'd appreciate it if you didn't pass that url on to anyone since that's the correct permanent url. Or rather, not the correct permanent url. Which will be http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/appendix/equalheightproblems NB. it doesn't exist there. Yet. As to

Re: [css-d] I think I need some hacks for IE...?

2006-04-20 Thread Tom Livingston
On 4/20/06 2:49 AM, GypsiiRose Baptiste [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do people still test for Opera? Looks good in Opera Mac too. I recommend Opera Mac. Try this version: http://snapshot.opera.com/mac/m90b1.html -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com

Re: [css-d] Float problems in Firefox 1.5

2006-04-20 Thread Pringle, Ron
Ingo Chao wrote: div style=float: left; height:100px; width:100px; background: yellow;/div div style=float: left; pLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Nam luctus urna non sem./p /div If the window is wide enough, the Lorem ipsum stays next to the

Re: [css-d] top banner image and link - trisms

2006-04-20 Thread MaryES
Hi Felix, I do have Firefox Web Developer. I use it to validate my pages. I continued to have problems with the rightnav, so I have gone down to 2 columns. http://www.trisms.com/New/Max.html http://www.trisms.com/New/2column.css I will try your ideas on changing the widths and margins to ems,

[css-d] IE floated columns collapsing

2006-04-20 Thread Christian Montoya
Hello all, At http://www.christianmontoya.com, I have some floated columns in the footer. The markup is not pretty, as I had to do a lot of hooks to do multiple background images. The footer has 3 columns, followed by a clearing BR, and then 3 more columns, followed by another clearing BR, but

Re: [css-d] Float problems in Firefox 1.5

2006-04-20 Thread Ingo Chao
Pringle, Ron wrote: Ingo Chao wrote: div style=float: left; height:100px; width:100px; background: yellow;/div div style=float: left; pLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Nam luctus urna non sem./p /div If the window is wide enough, the Lorem ipsum stays

[css-d] placing a header image thru CSS?

2006-04-20 Thread Tara Hadley
Hello again, I got some help from this list once before, in order to position a header image through CSS (rather than have it on every single page... this image is updated once a month!). Here's the code that someone was so kind to give to me to try: #masthead {

Re: [css-d] placing a header image thru CSS?

2006-04-20 Thread Neill Harmer
Tara, You need to specify the height and width of the #masthead, and possibly put display: block. The div is not quite smart enough to know the size of the image unless you specify it. Hope this helps. Thank you! Neill Harmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.back40design.com Back40 Design, Inc.

[css-d] Paging Dr. CSS! Paging Dr. CSS!

2006-04-20 Thread MarcLuzietti
I'm trying to set up page margins via CSS. Both Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide (Meyer, 2004) and Cascading Style Sheets (Bos Lie, 2005) mention @page. The examples, however, in both books, however, are contained in style elements. I put this in my external style sheets and it

Re: [css-d] Paging Dr. CSS! Paging Dr. CSS!

2006-04-20 Thread David Dorward
On 20/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to set up page margins via CSS. Both Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide (Meyer, 2004) and Cascading Style Sheets (Bos Lie, 2005) mention @page. The examples, however, in both books, however, are contained in style

[css-d] Safari 2.0.3 doesn't see a:hover inside of LI

2006-04-20 Thread Mike Botsko
I have a header that has several top-level links like: li onmouseover=subNavMouseover('winSubNav'); onmouseout=subNavMouseout();a href=/windows/ id=winMainNavWindows/a ul id=winSubNav style=display: none; lia href=/windows/2003/2003/a a href=/windows/xp/XP/a a href=/windows/2000/2000/a a

Re: [css-d] Paging Dr. CSS! Paging Dr. CSS!

2006-04-20 Thread MarcLuzietti
The example in Eric's book is: @page { size: 7.5in; margin: 0.5in; } What would the equivalent external style sheet use? -- Marc Luzietti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/20/2006 12:51 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org cc: Subject:

[css-d] IE4 and CS?

2006-04-20 Thread Design Groups
I've just been told that the site I'm working on - the target browser is *IE4*. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. Would anyone here have good links or information on what happens with a pure CSS layout when using IE4? Is it like Netscape 4 when it comes to CSS? I haven't even seen one

[css-d] background images missing in IE

2006-04-20 Thread Christy Collins
Anyone know what I need to do to get IE to display these background images? It's the yellow triangle things above the navigation. TIA -Christy http://ee.berkshireradio.org/index.php/main/test/ CSS: #navcontainer{ text-align: left; position: absolute; top: 20px; left: 550px; } ul#navlist{

Re: [css-d] Safari 2.0.3 doesn't see a:hover inside of LI

2006-04-20 Thread Mike Botsko
Updated: The a:hover still won't show at all in Safari for me when the UL/LI the link sits within was set to display: block by javascript. However, setting a onmouseover=this.style.color = '#fff' works fine, but is more code than I want and seems very unnecessary. I tried creating a test page

Re: [css-d] IE floated columns collapsing

2006-04-20 Thread Ingo Chao
Christian Montoya wrote: At http://www.christianmontoya.com, I have some floated columns in the footer. The markup is not pretty, as I had to do a lot of hooks to do multiple background images. The footer has 3 columns, followed by a clearing BR, and then 3 more columns, followed by another

Re: [css-d] fluid 3 col layout with over-sized content

2006-04-20 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
jack fredricks wrote: Hi all, I've been having problems getting the center column in my 3 col layouts to deal with over-sized content, ie an image with a width of 2000px. I'm about to give up, and when i do... it's time to come here :) I've tried about a dozen well known layouts, and then

[css-d] Page Break properties

2006-04-20 Thread Tom Livingston
Listers, Are the page-break properties widely supported? Or at least in IE6, Safari and maybe Opera (Win/Mac)? Any resources on their use besides the w3c site? TIA -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com

Re: [css-d] IE floated columns collapsing

2006-04-20 Thread Christian Montoya
On 4/20/06, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Montoya wrote: At http://www.christianmontoya.com, I have some floated columns in the footer. The markup is not pretty, as I had to do a lot of hooks to do multiple background images. The footer has 3 columns, followed by a clearing

Re: [css-d] Page Break properties

2006-04-20 Thread MarcLuzietti
According to Dreamweaver (and my own experiences), IE6 does not support page-break-inside at all, and doesn't support AVOID for page-break-after or page-break-before (Dreamweaver says an empty entry will achive the same result, however). This is very annoying for me. page-break-before:always

[css-d] What are these weird classifiers?

2006-04-20 Thread Reese
Earlier today, while reviewing the Web site of a potential client, I saw in the HTML source code several classifier names that looked wrong to me. These are copied from the potential client's HTML page: div class=headerLogo pink div class=pseudoH1 white div class=menuItem pseudoH2A div

Re: [css-d] What are these weird classifiers?

2006-04-20 Thread MarcLuzietti
Multiple classes are not only allowed, they are awesome and powerful. -- Marc Luzietti Flagship Project Bayview Financial, L.P. (305) 341-5624 Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/20/2006 04:37 PM To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org cc: Subject:

Re: [css-d] What are these weird classifiers?

2006-04-20 Thread Pringle, Ron
Reese wrote: Earlier today, while reviewing the Web site of a potential client, I saw in the HTML source code several classifier names that looked wrong to me. These are copied from the potential client's HTML page: div class=headerLogo pink div class=pseudoH1 white div class=menuItem

Re: [css-d] What are these weird classifiers?

2006-04-20 Thread cj
well, i can give it a shot at least! On 4/20/06, Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Earlier today, while reviewing the Web site of a potential client, I saw in the HTML source code several classifier names that looked wrong to me. These are copied from the potential client's HTML page: div

Re: [css-d] What are these weird classifiers?

2006-04-20 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
From the W3C CSS 2 spec [0]: In CSS2, identifiers (including element names, classes, and IDs in selectors) can contain only the characters [A-Za-z0-9] and ISO 10646 characters 161 and higher, plus the hyphen (-); they cannot start with a hyphen or a digit. They can also contain escaped

Re: [css-d] What are these weird classifiers?

2006-04-20 Thread Reese
At 16:45 20-04-06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Multiple classes are not only allowed, they are awesome and powerful. Okay. I didn't know they were allowed, I can envision how powerful they can be. At 16:50 20-04-06, Pringle, Ron wrote: div class=wide bottom clear Those are all valid class

Re: [css-d] Safari 2.0.3 doesn't see a:hover inside of LI

2006-04-20 Thread Mike Botsko
Ok, let me ask this in a simpler way. Why would safari recognize: onmouseover=this.style.color='#fff' but not a:hover { color: #fff; } ? I've defined a:link, a:visited, a:active in the same css file before defining the a:hover. The hover works perfectly in both Firefox and IE. The element

[css-d] Drop Down Boxs (horizontal alignment with labels above each box)

2006-04-20 Thread Abyss - Information
Hey all, I had a question about laying out drop down boxs http://www.abyss.ws/webdevelopment/css/dropdownlayout.png they are my drop down boxs my initial thought was to put them into a ul list and layout it out with CSS that way with a display:inline; and float:left this did not work -

[css-d] selects appearing above an a.p. ul

2006-04-20 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Hello, I'm using Christian Heilmann's pure DOM explorer (http://www.onlinetools.org/tools/puredom/) for part of the navigation in an app that i'm working on. I have a horizontal list, the first li of which contains the submenu. The page will contain generated forms (laid out in a

Re: [css-d] background images missing in IE

2006-04-20 Thread Ingo Chao
Christy Collins wrote: Anyone know what I need to do to get IE to display these background images? It's the yellow triangle things above the navigation. TIA -Christy http://ee.berkshireradio.org/index.php/main/test/ Again, IE has a broken inline model. You really should consider using

Re: [css-d] Paging Dr. CSS! Paging Dr. CSS!

2006-04-20 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Apr 21, 2006, at 2:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The example in Eric's book is: @page { size: 7.5in; margin: 0.5in; } What would the equivalent external style sheet use? The same. The problem: it is only supported by Opera, and iirc PrinceXML Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh

Re: [css-d] IE4 and CS?

2006-04-20 Thread Cem Meric
I've just been told that the site I'm working on - the target browser is *IE4*. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. Good luck with that Shelly. I'd be really interested to see the demographics of prospective IE4 visitors with ~0.5 percent (*) buying power. *

Re: [css-d] selects appearing above an a.p. ul

2006-04-20 Thread Robert O'Rourke
Bill Brown wrote: click the toolbar label on my site, it snaps the toolbar into a dashboard or console fixed across the top of the page. Worked great, except in IE, select elements were appearing above the dashboard. The fix I used is included in the ieFixes style sheets and the iframe can be

Re: [css-d] IE wrapped text with bullets

2006-04-20 Thread Richard Grevers
On 4/20/06, RKN Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it that IE wraps text in bullets to align with the bullet and not the text? How can I fix that for IE? using list-style-position:outside (see http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/generate.html#propdef-list-style-position ) However, I've never seen

[css-d] how 2 position position pureCSS dropdown submenu *relative* to parent? absolute wrt page is OK ...

2006-04-20 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi all, i've a pure-CSS dropdown menu. i've only been able to get the dropdown's SUBmenu positioned w.r.t. the parent using ABSOLUTE positioning. (how) can I position simply relative to the parent object's position? my current EXAMPLE is

Re: [css-d] IE4 and CS?

2006-04-20 Thread francky
Design Groups wrote: I've just been told that the site I'm working on - the target browser is *IE4*. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. Would anyone here have good links or information on what happens with a pure CSS layout when using IE4? Is it like Netscape 4 when it comes to CSS? I

Re: [css-d] how 2 position position pureCSS dropdown submenu *relative* to parent? absolute wrt page is OK ...

2006-04-20 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi bill, thx for the comments :-) Your menu works fine in Firefox on Windows XP. I have no access to a Mac OS, so I can't test there for you. fwiw, i'm bldg/testing on FF ... not an issue with working/ not working, rather simply a question

Re: [css-d] IE wrapped text with bullets

2006-04-20 Thread Pete Stuart
On 4/19/06, RKN Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it that IE wraps text in bullets to align with the bullet and not the text? How can I fix that for IE? example: http://www.rknstudio.com/sites/GWR/about.html Thanks, Ron www.rknstudio.com Ron, A couple of things to fix... 1.

Re: [css-d] how 2 position position pureCSS dropdown submenu *relative* to parent? absolute wrt page is OK ...

2006-04-20 Thread Pete Stuart
Hi Richard, I'm not sure I can solve your specific problem, but I can speak to positioning an object relative to its parent. This was an epiphany for me when I discovered it (reading and Eric Meyer book, I'm sure). To put it simply, you must set the parent element to be recognized as a box. You

Re: [css-d] IE4 and CS?

2006-04-20 Thread Pete Stuart
Shelly, Frankly, I'd just lay the whole thing out with old-school tables. Bust out the Nirvana and Pearl Jam cds, dust off the David Siegel book, create a single-pixel gif or 3, and have at it. Think of it as an exercise in appreciation for how far we've come. Seriously, it's for somebody's

[css-d] IE6 supports white-space: pre; Not.

2006-04-20 Thread David Hucklesby
I am using an ordered list to display some code, like this: HTML licode...(some escaped HTML or CSS) .../code/li CSS ol {margin-left: 2em;} code { font: 100%/1 Lucida Console, American Typewriter, Courier New, Courier, monospace; white-space: pre; } Implemented here:

Re: [css-d] how 2 position position pureCSS dropdown submenu *relative* to parent? absolute wrt page is OK ...

2006-04-20 Thread OpenMacNews
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 hi pete, I'm not sure I can solve your specific problem, but I can speak to positioning an object relative to its parent. This was an epiphany for me when I discovered it (reading and Eric Meyer book, I'm sure). To put it simply, you must