Re: [css-d] Question Regarding visibility: hidden; not working

2007-02-16 Thread David Dorward
On 16/02/07, Douglas Pollock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I trying to get a left side menu working. The main body of the page is simple html pages that are made visible by clicking on the left-side menu links. The problem is that the div tags surrounding the page names appears to block the

Re: [css-d] Question Regarding visibility: hidden; not working

2007-02-16 Thread George Ornbo
You have a huge number of syntax errors: Nested tables and presentational markup. Argh. Use CSS for presentation. Hi, Just to follow up here are a couple of quick tips for you. You can achieve your layout without the need for tables. CSS based layout is easier to maintain and lighter on code.

[css-d] whitespace in IE

2007-02-16 Thread Clark, Martin \(M.\)
Hi Simple question I hope. When I have an image inside a div, and the HTML is formatted for readability (as below), IE is inserting white space above and below the image, although Firefox does not (don't know about other browsers). div img id=banner

[css-d] email

2007-02-16 Thread zeynep ozkan
here is my email :[EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to this list, send your email to: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information --

Re: [css-d] Dead (or covered?) links in Safari (Was: Complex layout works on MSIE 5 6 but not 7

2007-02-16 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 08:42:25AM -0500, Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 38 lines which said: This is a bug in Safari 1.3 and 2.0: http://www.456bereastreet.com/lab/float_negative_margins/ The workaround is to put position: relative on the sidebar, apparently.

Re: [css-d] Design repository less fancy than CSS Zen Garden

2007-02-16 Thread Audra Coldiron
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach francky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.02.10.2231 +]: Maybe the designs / links in the css-discuss Wiki page about CSS layouts http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssLayouts can give some inspiration? Thank you. I feel I may not have made myself clear

Re: [css-d] IE Rendering Problem

2007-02-16 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Jon Hughes wrote: On the left navigation for this page, the vertical spacing is the same on ALL of the pages, EXCEPT for the main page. They do use a different css file, but it has the same content. Anyone know why? This has been frustrating me for a long time now.

Re: [css-d] header image size

2007-02-16 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
jeffrey morin wrote: i have a header image which is 649px and i put it inside a div that is 660px wide then set a background image repeating horizontally to fill up the existing space. now it works fine on opera and ff of course but ie6 is not giving me the extra header width. does anyone

Re: [css-d] list-style-image horizontal spacing

2007-02-16 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Steve Clason wrote: I recall list-style-image being problematic but I don't remember the details. A search through the archives would probably turn something up, but ... It's problematic because you can't control the spacing or alignment of it at all. Which is too bad, because the nice

Re: [css-d] Horizontal Navigation with Images

2007-02-16 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Matthew Stoneback wrote: When lining images up horizontally, is there a inherit amount of padding or margin on the left and right sides? Basically, why can I not line two images up flush against one another? If an example is needed, I can post a link. If your images are inline, which

Re: [css-d] Design repository less fancy than CSS Zen Garden

2007-02-16 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
martin f krafft wrote: Thank you. I feel I may not have made myself clear enough: I know plenty sites with great layouts which serve as source of inspiration. However, what I am looking for are sites like csszengarden.com, which have different designs all for the same XHTML file. Hmm,

Re: [css-d] negative margined sidebar moving when window narrowed in IE

2007-02-16 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On Feb 15, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: I have moved leftcolumn into the bottom of contentwrapper, but the source-order is otherwise the same and nothing is added or subtracted...

[css-d] font size

2007-02-16 Thread jeffrey morin
i remember reading somewhere that you can control font size easier if you set 1em = 65%? i don't recall exactly what the number was and i can't find where i read it. i want to say it was andy budd but does anyone know what i am talking about and why that is useful? any help would be great --

Re: [css-d] font size

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Cook
On 2/16/07, jeffrey morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i remember reading somewhere that you can control font size easier if you set 1em = 65%? i don't recall exactly what the number was and i can't find where i read it. i want to say it was andy budd but does anyone know what i am talking about

Re: [css-d] font size

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Cook
On 2/16/07, I foolishly wrote: 1.4em = 13px That should obviously be 1.4em = 14px, or 1.3em = 13px. Either way. The 3 and 4 keys are very close together, you know :) -- Craig, www.focalcurve.com __ css-discuss [EMAIL

Re: [css-d] font size

2007-02-16 Thread jeffrey morin
On 2/16/07, Craig Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/16/07, I foolishly wrote: 1.4em = 13px That should obviously be 1.4em = 14px, or 1.3em = 13px. Either way. The 3 and 4 keys are very close together, you know :) -- Craig, www.focalcurve.com Thanks a lot. now that it's explained it

Re: [css-d] Design repository less fancy than CSS Zen Garden

2007-02-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.02.16.1416 +]: Hmm, I'm not sure why seeing the same XHTML gives you good graphic inspiration. I would simply recommend you peruse the thousands of well-designed real sites that are in the many CSS design inspiration galleries:

Re: [css-d] Design repository less fancy than CSS Zen Garden

2007-02-16 Thread Grady Kelly
Not to sound harsh at all but ... If you are a designer, why not just do it yourself? I think in the length of time that this post has been started and floating around, that you could already have a site up and going. The best way to showcase your skills as a designer is with your own website.

Re: [css-d] font size

2007-02-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
jeffrey morin wrote: [...] now that it's explained it seems very easy Yes, it's extremely easy. Just remember that some (of us) set a 'minimum font size', that will blow up the text size quite a bit - based on inheritance - in some browsers... http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03_04.html

Re: [css-d] Design repository less fancy than CSS Zen Garden

2007-02-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Grady Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.02.16.1600 +]: If you are a designer, why not just do it yourself? I think in the length of time that this post has been started and floating around, that you could already have a site up and going. I am not a designer and I have other

Re: [css-d] Design repository less fancy than CSS Zen Garden

2007-02-16 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Zoe M. Gillenwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.02.16.1416 +]: Hmm, I'm not sure why seeing the same XHTML gives you good graphic inspiration. I would simply recommend you peruse the thousands of well-designed real sites that are in the many CSS design

Re: [css-d] Design repository less fancy than CSS Zen Garden

2007-02-16 Thread Barney Carroll
If you have massive difficulty finding resources you intend to sell, I think getting your website together should come after a career rethink. Are you after Wordpress.com, perchance? And what, exactly, are the skills you're trying to sell? Regards, Barney

[css-d] Absolutely positioning an element in a parent with display:table-cell

2007-02-16 Thread Rafael Holt
Hello, Today I discovered a discrepancy between Opera and Firefox regarding display:table-cell. I tried to find some further info on the matter but didn't get much further than something (which I can't find any more) which said that the spec says that it's up to browser vendors whether table

[css-d] suckerfish menu oddity in IE7

2007-02-16 Thread Janice Tocher
I am experiencing a *very* odd issue with suckerfish menus in IE7 (and apparently only IE7). http://averra.com/clientTest2/ (stylesheet embedded with page) The menus behave just fine when the page is loaded. However, when you click the background and then hover over the menu items. Then,

Re: [css-d] Design repository less fancy than CSS Zen Garden

2007-02-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.02.16.1712 +]: If you have massive difficulty finding resources you intend to sell, I think getting your website together should come after a career rethink. Are you after Wordpress.com, perchance? And what, exactly, are the skills

[css-d] (no subject)

2007-02-16 Thread jeffrey morin
is there a way to set an image as a border? -- Jeffrey Morin __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d IE7 information -- http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=IE7 List wiki/FAQ --

Re: [css-d] negative margined sidebar moving when window narrowed in IE

2007-02-16 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: I have moved leftcolumn into the bottom of contentwrapper, but the source-order is otherwise the same and nothing is added or subtracted... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/Zoe/test_2882.html ...so, maybe it'll do. It is possible to turn this into a robust 3 column with

Re: [css-d] Design repository less fancy than CSS Zen Garden

2007-02-16 Thread Zoe M. Gillenwater
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Barney Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.02.16.1712 +]: If you have massive difficulty finding resources you intend to sell, I think getting your website together should come after a career rethink. Are you after Wordpress.com, perchance? And what,

Re: [css-d] (no subject)

2007-02-16 Thread Mark Lundquist
On Feb 16, 2007, at 10:14 AM, jeffrey morin wrote: is there a way to set an image as a border? No... but if the box you're bordering is fixed-width, you can combine a full-width background that contains the two side rails with :before/:after rules to give the top and bottom images. HTH,

Re: [css-d] font size

2007-02-16 Thread Rob Stevenson
On 16-Feb-07, at 11:11 AM, Craig wrote: On 2/16/07, jeffrey morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i remember reading somewhere that you can control font size easier if you set 1em = 65%? i don't recall exactly what the number was and i can't find where i read it. i want to say it was andy budd

[css-d] Example of CSS Site using Form-Heavy Application

2007-02-16 Thread Meryl K. Evans
Someone contacted me looking for a great example of using CSS to replace tables in a form heavy intranet application that is the data entry front end for a large database. Not an easy thing to find... anyone have suggestions as to what sites I should refer? Thanks! Best, Meryl -- Meryl K.

Re: [css-d] font size

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Cook
On 2/16/07, Rob Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard this before, and I witness the results daily since this idea seems to have caught on widely with eCommerce template people. But why is it important that you get a nice round number of pixels? Who cares? And why would you want the

Re: [css-d] font size

2007-02-16 Thread Willie Wilson
On 2/16/07, Craig Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: body { font-size: 62.5%; } Wouldn't font-size: 10px; do the same thing? I understand why you would want a nice round number for your font sizes; that makes perfect sense. What I don't understand, is why 62.5% is used instead of 10px. Please

Re: [css-d] font size

2007-02-16 Thread Craig Cook
On 2/16/07, Willie Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't font-size: 10px; do the same thing? Indeed it would, but then the text wouldn't resize in IE5 and 6. Using percentages and ems across the board keeps it scalable in those versions, if that's important to you :) It's 62.5% of what,

Re: [css-d] Problem w/ nav margin in IE

2007-02-16 Thread ~davidLaakso
Chris Kiltz wrote: I've got my template looking wonderful in Firefox, but IE screws up the left nav column. What do I need to do so it matches Firefox? The first menu item runs too close to the top of the column, and there's too much air between the other items. http://dbkdev.net/wb/

[css-d] Stubborn Blog

2007-02-16 Thread christianz
Does anyone know how to get the Blogger header strip to remove from the print styles in my blog? http://ocmexfood.blogspot.com/ I have used CSS to get some of it to go away but some of it is still stubbornly appearing. I don't mind that the strip shows up when people view my site on the

Re: [css-d] Absolutely positioning an element in a parent with display:table-cell

2007-02-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rafael Holt wrote: What do you think the standard behaviour should be and is the spec really this unspecific about this issue? The specs are pretty open-ended on many issues, so it is not always easy to say what's a bug and what isn't. I think Opera and Safari behave correctly on this point,

[css-d] prevent z-index item moving on resize

2007-02-16 Thread Stephanie Chausse
Is there a way to prevent the sheild overlapping the navbar on this page from moving and covering parts of the nav on resize? ~ thanks, Stephanie http://www.wordwisedesign.com/castle/default.html relevant css: #masthead { right: 172pt; position: absolute; top: 32pt; z-index: 5; } #navbar {

[css-d] making a UL menu horizontal - IE question

2007-02-16 Thread Francesco Sanfilippo
I have this code that works beautifully in FF for making a menubar of buttons horizontal, but it does not work in IE 6 or 7, and I haven't checked in Safari yet. Any ideas why IE doesn't like this? #menubar { height: 31px; } ul#menu { border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: table;

Re: [css-d] negative margined sidebar moving when window narrowed in IE

2007-02-16 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Zoe M. Gillenwater wrote: http://www.pixelsurge.com/experiment/negative_margins_4.html Seems to work fine in FF 2, IE 7, IE 6, and Opera 9. Am I missing something? Not really, apart from my wish for _some_ table-like robustness. David pointed out one weakness (in his usual disorderly manner

Re: [css-d] making a UL menu horizontal - IE question

2007-02-16 Thread Janice Tocher
Hi I made heavy use of Listamatic when I was learning how to create menus using unordered lists. Take a peek and, there's a great tutorial... http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/ On Feb 16, 2007, at 6:39 PM, Francesco Sanfilippo wrote: I have this code that works beautifully in FF for

Re: [css-d] making a UL menu horizontal - IE question

2007-02-16 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Feb 17, 2007, at 8:39 AM, Francesco Sanfilippo wrote: I have this code that works beautifully in FF for making a menubar of buttons horizontal, but it does not work in IE 6 or 7, and I haven't checked in Safari yet. Any ideas why IE doesn't like this? IE doesn't understand/support

Re: [css-d] (no subject image as border)

2007-02-16 Thread francky
Mark Lundquist schreef: On Feb 16, 2007, at 10:14 AM, jeffrey morin wrote: is there a way to set an image as a border? No... but if the box you're bordering is fixed-width, you can combine a full-width background that contains the two side rails with :before/:after rules to give