Re: [css-d] Lines clipping in Explorer, and width issue

2008-03-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
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Re: [css-d] A weird CSS problem in IE7

2008-03-10 Thread Usamah M. Ali
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Philippe Wittenbergh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:44 AM, Usamah M. Ali wrote: About havingLayout, doesn't IE7 need it? I thought hasLayout becomes redundant in IE7, am I mistaken? Oh, it definitely needs it, in different ways than IE

Re: [css-d] Oldest Browser Currently Testing for

2008-03-10 Thread david
Kathy Wheeler wrote: On 09/03/2008, at 6:40 AM, Karl Hardisty wrote: A comparison of usage before and after is generally a good idea. If a site design changes, and suddenly a certain type of browser/platform combination drops off markedly, there's probably a good reason. However it may

[css-d] Curious question inspired by the X-UA compatible thread

2008-03-10 Thread david
If you have an HTML document that happens to contain another HTML document in an iframe - and one of the two documents triggers quirks mode when rendered by itself - is each one rendered in the same mode or does the browser somehow do one in standards mode and one in quirks mode? -- David

Re: [css-d] Targeting IE8 (was: IE8 is better but still slightly broken)

2008-03-10 Thread Mark Richards
-Original Message- Why are you suggesting in the first place to pollute your source with different conditional comments on every single page of a site. That seems like to much work and maintenance for me. Is that what you do? Well, the pages of the sites I work on are generated

[css-d] Diff between display:none and visibility:hidden

2008-03-10 Thread Jeff Gates
I know that one difference between display:none and visibility:hidden is that the former does not leave space in the layout where the code exists on the page, while the latter does. Are there other differences? Using visibility:hidden I have hidden a whole string of links I need on the page to

Re: [css-d] Curious question inspired by the X-UA compatible thread

2008-03-10 Thread Alex Robinson
At 22:36 -1000 9/3/08, david wrote: If you have an HTML document that happens to contain another HTML document in an iframe - and one of the two documents triggers quirks mode when rendered by itself - is each one rendered in the same mode or does the browser somehow do one in standards mode and

Re: [css-d] Targeting IE8 (was: IE8 is better but still slightly broken)

2008-03-10 Thread Alan Gresley
Mark Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why are you suggesting in the first place to pollute your source with different conditional comments on every single page of a site. That seems like to much work and maintenance for me. Is that what you do? Well, the pages of the sites I work on are

Re: [css-d] Targeting IE8 (was: IE8 is better but still slightly broken)

2008-03-10 Thread Mark Richards
-Original Message- From: Alan Gresley Conditional Comments can be problematic to maintained and some beginners will start adding them to every page. Sometimes if it's not a true CCS rendering issue at all but just incorrect understanding of CSS or invalid CSS and markup. I don't

Re: [css-d] X-UA-Compatible - Discrepancies between targeted behaviour in IE8 resolved

2008-03-10 Thread Alex Robinson
I've seen a couple of other cases (not related to parsing/selectors problems but to rendering) where IE8 quirks is equal to IE7 quirks when this differs from IE6 quirks. Also, I just noticed (again, this may be old news by now) that fieldsets and input buttons (and presumably all form

Re: [css-d] Site check

2008-03-10 Thread Cynthia Villegas
Hi David, I happen to be following this post closely, since Phoebe seems to have all the questions I had. I validated all my pages, with the validate site, both html css, fixed many mistakes I have and learned a lot! (the only thing that didn't pass the validation was the rss on this page:

[css-d] IE7 spacing blowout problem on Stu Nicholls' Snazzy Borders code

2008-03-10 Thread Eriol Hiragizawa
Hi, I'm modifying code from Stu Nicholls' Snazzy Borders code, referenced here: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/boxes/snazzy.html As he stated, this works in modern browsers. However, I tried putting only a form field in here, and it blows out the spacing above and below the content area in IE7 only.

[css-d] IE8 hack?

2008-03-10 Thread Nancy E. Sosna Bohm
Yes, I know, in a perfect site there's no need for hacks. But this is a just slightly less-than perfectly coded site I did a year ago, and it breaks in IE8. I can fix most of it, but some widths in IE8 don't match up with widths in FireFox, and IE8 ignores !ie. So, does this mean conditional

[css-d] background image shifts next to heading??

2008-03-10 Thread Rob freeman
Hi everyone, My site is near completion. The only problem is a background image which appears next to the headings (Styles and Effects headings etc..) seems to drop slightly in Firefox at work, though it seems fine in Firefox and safari on my Laptop and PC. I'm sure its to do with the headings at

Re: [css-d] IE7 spacing blowout problem on Stu Nicholls' Snazzy Borders code

2008-03-10 Thread Susan Grossman
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:28 PM, Eriol Hiragizawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm modifying code from Stu Nicholls' Snazzy Borders code, referenced here: http://www.cssplay.co.uk/boxes/snazzy.html As he stated, this works in modern browsers. However, I tried putting only a form field in

Re: [css-d] IE8 hack?

2008-03-10 Thread Bruno Fassino
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Nancy E. Sosna Bohm wrote: Yes, I know, in a perfect site there's no need for hacks. But this is a just slightly less-than perfectly coded site I did a year ago, and it breaks in IE8. I don't think it is a a good idea to hack now for IE8, which is just a

[css-d] IE 6 and fixed width for select element

2008-03-10 Thread Mauricio (Maujor) Samy Silva
Hi, When we open a fixed width select control in a compliant browser it expands the width of the open window in order to show the option content larger than that fixed width. IE 6 (don't know about IE 7) doesn't expands and crops the option content larger than the width. Is there a CSS way (no

Re: [css-d] background image shifts next to heading??

2008-03-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rob freeman wrote: I'm sure its to do with the headings at 110% how can I make sure the arrow icon always sits centred vertically next to the headings? http://www.coloursense.net/testfolder/ Don't know why you get variations between two setups of Firefox - different screen-resolutions maybe.

Re: [css-d] IE8 hack?

2008-03-10 Thread Rajat Pandit
To second what bruno said, its worth investigating if its an IE bug or failure to meet the 2.1specs or something wrong with your css and if the problem is on IE side make sure that it gets reported via some channel. its far to early to make an effort to start fixing things - Rajat Bruno Fassino

Re: [css-d] IE8 hack?

2008-03-10 Thread Alan Gresley
Nancy E. Sosna Bohm wrote: Yes, I know, in a perfect site there's no need for hacks. But this is a just slightly less-than perfectly coded site I did a year ago, and it breaks in IE8. I can fix most of it, but some widths in IE8 don't match up with widths in FireFox, and IE8 ignores !ie.

[css-d] New CSS/html tools?..

2008-03-10 Thread Karl Jacobs
Howdy, I'm really ready to dump BBedit, and am wondering if anyone has a good html/css editor with autocomplete like many of the current tools, but also has the built-in ftp capabilities of BBedit? I am seeing a lot of tools with one or two good features, but nothing outstanding.

[css-d] IE6 z-index position element stacking problem

2008-03-10 Thread Sandy
or so i think. http://accuray.com/ my flash menu is in an absolutely position div. in ie6 ONLY, when you roll over products or patients, the menu is cut off at the bottom of the drop down. I tried fooling around with the other positioned elements or removing them altogether but it doesn't

[css-d] css validation error

2008-03-10 Thread Sr. Flo Fluse
Hello all, I'm at validating the css stylesheet and there are two strange error messages which i can't get rid of. 1)the first one is: /Parse Error - body, div, dl, dt, dd, ul, ol, li, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, pre, form, fieldset, input, p, blockquote, th, td { margin:0; padding:0; } /This

[css-d] IE8 bazaar rendering of display table properties

2008-03-10 Thread Alan Gresley
Hi Everyone. I have started developing some test cases concerning issues with IE8 support of display table properties. I am totally mystified by what I am seeing. I am adding extra cases to understand what is happening. Any input, suggestions or other examples would be very welcome. The test

Re: [css-d] New CSS/html tools?..

2008-03-10 Thread Michael Stevens
WeBuilder from Bluementals http://www.blumentals.net/webuilder/ They have several different flavors with each supporting more flavors of code. WeBuilder is their top of the line and supports php coding. I've been using HomeSite forever and hoping someone would come along with a piece of software

Re: [css-d] New CSS/html tools?..

2008-03-10 Thread Kathy Wheeler
On 11/03/2008, at 12:34 PM, Michael Stevens wrote: WeBuilder from Bluementals http://www.blumentals.net/webuilder/ WeBuilder is windows only. -Original Message- Karl Jacobs I'm really ready to dump BBedit, ... BBedit is Mac only. Unless Kar is dumping the Mac as well, WeBuilder

Re: [css-d] Diff between display:none and visibility:hidden

2008-03-10 Thread Rafael
Jeff Gates wrote: I know that one difference between display:none and visibility:hidden is that the former does not leave space in the layout where the code exists on the page, while the latter does. Are there other differences? Using visibility:hidden I have hidden a whole string of links

Re: [css-d] New CSS/html tools?..

2008-03-10 Thread Karl Hardisty
On 11/03/2008, at 3:38 PM, Kathy Wheeler wrote: On 11/03/2008, at 12:34 PM, Michael Stevens wrote: WeBuilder from Bluementals http://www.blumentals.net/webuilder/ WeBuilder is windows only. -Original Message- Karl Jacobs I'm really ready to dump BBedit, ... BBedit is Mac only.

Re: [css-d] background image shifts next to heading??

2008-03-10 Thread Rafael
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: 2 b: make the background center vertically with the text-line - also if the headline-text breaks into 2 lines: #content h1 { background-position: 0 .5em; } Note: exact em-value depends on case and size of background-image. Since the background doesn't change size

Re: [css-d] css validation error

2008-03-10 Thread Rob Emenecker
I'm at validating the css stylesheet and there are two strange error messages which i can't get rid of. What are you using to edit your CSS file? The file appears to have non-printing characters that do not appear to be standard CR, LF, or CR/LF line endings. What if you copy/paste your CSS

Re: [css-d] Diff between display:none and visibility:hidden

2008-03-10 Thread vincent pollard
i hear display:none is bad for accessibility (screen readers, e.g.) but i have no idea if visibility is any better. anyone know? On 10/03/2008, Rafael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Gates wrote: I know that one difference between display:none and visibility:hidden is that the former does not

Re: [css-d] css validation error

2008-03-10 Thread David Laakso
Sr. Flo Fluse wrote: I'm at validating the css stylesheet and there are two strange error messages which i can't get rid of. flo Wow! Uncompressing the file before posting to the list would be a nice touch on your part... I think if you delete the entire comment preceding the body

Re: [css-d] Lines clipping in Explorer, and width issue [SOLVED]

2008-03-10 Thread Dave M G
Gunlaug, Thank you for responding. Removing the position: relative; declaration from my #article DIV made the bottom border lines appear as they should. Adding the .class to the last item in the list does solve the problem of the width of the main menu. Unfortunately, the menu is generated

Re: [css-d] Lines clipping in Explorer, and width issue [SOLVED]

2008-03-10 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dave M G wrote: Adding the .class to the last item in the list does solve the problem of the width of the main menu. Unfortunately, the menu is generated from within a CMS, and I can't quite get that solution to be compatible with the PHP code that drives the HTML. However, even though I

Re: [css-d] New CSS/html tools?..

2008-03-10 Thread Michael Stevens
Aren't Mac people always bragging about how their machines can run Windows better than a PC can? Shouldn't be a problem then... :) Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Wheeler Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:39 PM To: