[css-d] forms - text baselines vertical grids

2010-11-10 Thread Michal Čizmazia
I would like to hear your suggestions  comments on the following way
of styling forms.

My aim was to keep all elements in a row aligned to the text baseline
and to create a vertical grid by controlling the row height. (The
light blue line shows the alignment to the text baseline.)

My test case shows one row with two labeled form fields (tested in FF and IE8):

http://jsfiddle.net/cizmazia/KMVmw/77/

vertical-align: baseline - (default) aligns all elements vertically
according to the text baseline

border: 1px - triggers different rendering of the input  select
elements when they have the same implicit height

box-sizing: border-box; - allows to set the same width of the input 
select elements

As the input  select elements are rendered differently, I have not
found a consistent way how to set the same explicit height of the
input  select elements while keeping them aligned to the text
baseline. Therefore I wrap them and set a sufficiently big height to
the wrappers.

I look forward to hearing your suggestions  comments.
Michal Cizmazia
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[css-d] Why won't this table style nicely in IE?

2010-11-10 Thread Amanda Gillespie
I am at my wits end with Internet Explorer. I have a calendar widget
(javascript) on a contact form which just refuses to style. It looks
fine in Chrome/Firefox, etc (of course), but I just can't get it right
in IE, and I've been struggling for hours now.

http://www.exclusivevillas.co.za/contact-us/ (Click any of Check in
date or Check out date)

Here is a screenshot of how they look in Chrome and IE 8:
http://www.exclusivevillas.co.za/wp-content/uploads/screenshot.jpg

Thanks in advance
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[css-d] selected link colour problem

2010-11-10 Thread Lisa Frost
Ok, this has me completely stumped.

I have a menu list as follows:

div id=sidemainmenu
ul
lia href=../index.html
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/index.htmlHome/a/li
lia href=donations.html
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/donations.htmlDonations/a/li
lia href=bios.html
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/bios.htmlBiographies/a/li
lia href=press.html
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/press.htmlPress/a/li
lia href=thanks.html
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/thanks.htmlclass=currentpagestrongThanks/strong/a/li
lia href=# 
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/thanks.html#class=currentpagestrongThanks/strong/a/li

/ul
/div

The selected link, say for example the thanks page needs to be a red
colour. This is achieved using the class #sidemainmenu .currentpage.
If the link is just a hash sign the styling works. Once i add a
correct href to an actual file it won't honour the red colour.
Why the hell is that?

css here:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/css/mainstyles.css
page here:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/thanks.html

Thanks

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Re: [css-d] Son of Suckerfish problems

2010-11-10 Thread Peter Hammarling

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El 09/11/2010, a las 21:11, Daniel Hammond escribió:

URL: http://www.numcchildren.org/new/index.html
CSS: http://numcchildren.org/new/children.css

Browsers that display the site correctly:
Firefox, Opera, IE8

Browsers that have problems:
Safari, Chrome, IE8 in compatibility view

I’m trying to use the son of suckerfish method for the drop-down  
navigation.

In IE8 compatibility view, the sub-menus appear to the right of their
parents, rather than underneath them. In Safari and Chrome, the sub- 
menu
items don’t change color when hovered over, but they’re supposed to.  
Test

the site in the latest versions of FF, Opera, or IE8 to see the site
functioning properly.




I just adapted a Son of Suckerfish menu for a site and have had no  
problems with any browser PC or Mac, except of course having to make a  
couple of special styles for (spit, spit) IE. You may have to position  
the dropdowns differently for IE to make them appear where you want.   
But I had no problem with the hover colour change on the main and  
submenus - both work OK.


Possibly, maybe, no guarantees, where you have:

#nav ul ul li a:hover, #nav ul ul li a:active {
display: block;
background: #93c83d;
padding: 10px;

in your css, it would work better with:

#nav li ul li a:hover

Hope this turns out to be useful, Peter H.


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[css-d] XHTML or not?

2010-11-10 Thread John
I am relatively inexperienced with CSS and HTML..I've made all my own  
web pages, but learn what I need at the time followed by years of  
doing nothing with it until the next re-design.


A tutorial I watched recommended going with XHTML, but some say it's  
not the way to go, and I don't know for sure what the right direction  
would be for me.


Recommendations?

thanks!

John
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Re: [css-d] selected link colour problem

2010-11-10 Thread Shawn Lawler

Lisa,

Your selector:
#sidemainmenu a:visited

is stronger than:
#sidemainmenu .currentpage

You could bump the strength of your .currentpage selector like so (there 
are other ways as well):

#sidemainmenu a.currentpage

Cheers,
Shawn

On 11/10/2010 7:53 AM, Lisa Frost wrote:

Ok, this has me completely stumped.

I have a menu list as follows:

div id=sidemainmenu
ul
lia href=../index.html
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/index.htmlHome/a/li
lia href=donations.html
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/donations.htmlDonations/a/li
lia href=bios.html
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/bios.htmlBiographies/a/li
lia href=press.html
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/press.htmlPress/a/li
lia href=thanks.html
view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/thanks.htmlclass=currentpagestrongThanks/strong/a/li
lia 
href=#view-source:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/thanks.html#class=currentpagestrongThanks/strong/a/li

/ul
/div

The selected link, say for example the thanks page needs to be a red
colour. This is achieved using the class #sidemainmenu .currentpage.
If the link is just a hash sign the styling works. Once i add a
correct href to an actual file it won't honour the red colour.
Why the hell is that?

css here:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/css/mainstyles.css
page here:http://www.diabetespolarflight.org/xhtml/thanks.html

Thanks

Lisa
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Re: [css-d] XHTML or not?

2010-11-10 Thread Tim Arnold
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:49 PM, John j...@coffeeonmars.com wrote:

 I am relatively inexperienced with CSS and HTML..I've made all my own web
 pages, but learn what I need at the time followed by years of doing nothing
 with it until the next re-design.

 A tutorial I watched recommended going with XHTML, but some say it's not
 the way to go, and I don't know for sure what the right direction would be
 for me.

 Recommendations?

 thanks!

 John


HTML vs. XHTML is off topic for css-discuss.  You should try the web design
list:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%5Bwd%5D+listl=1

See also: http://css-discuss.incutio.com/wiki/Off_Topic Places where it
would be appropriate to discuss such things and ask questions about them:-





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Re: [css-d] XHTML or not?

2010-11-10 Thread G.Sørtun

On 10.11.2010 18:49, John wrote:

[...]
Recommendations?
The syntax for both HTML 4.1 and XHTML 1.0 works when 
transferring/converting to HTML 5, so just choose the variant you like 
the most, and stick with it. Remember to make/write your choice 
Strict, logical and valid all the way all the time, as that makes CSS 
styling and subsequent troubleshooting so much easier.


regards
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Re: [css-d] XHTML or not?

2010-11-10 Thread Peter Bradley

Ar 10/11/10 17:49, ysgrifennodd John :
I am relatively inexperienced with CSS and HTML..I've made all my own 
web pages, but learn what I need at the time followed by years of 
doing nothing with it until the next re-design.


A tutorial I watched recommended going with XHTML, but some say it's 
not the way to go, and I don't know for sure what the right direction 
would be for me.


Recommendations?

thanks!

John



Hi John,

Was there any particular reason why XHTML would not be the way to go?  
Whatever DOCTYPE you decide to use, you have to follow its rules and - 
speaking personally - I've never found following the rules of XHTML to 
be any more onerous than those of HTML.  Unless I really have no choice 
(e.g. a customer wants to force the opening of a new window from a link) 
all my stuff is XHTML 1.0 Strict and CSS 2.1.


There are a couple of things you have to bear in mind if you want XHTML 
to work in older IEs, like omitting the XML declaration and not using 
XHTML 1.1 (both of which put IE into quirks mode, IIRC), but working 
with older IEs is going to be a problem whatever DOCTYPE you choose.  
XHTML might make it a bit easier to ensure the separation of structure 
and format, I suppose; but good practise should make you do that anyway.


But at the end of the day - and in my opinion only - it's just a matter 
of choice.  It's producing *valid* HTML that's important to me, not the 
DOCTYPE.


HTH

Cheers


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Re: [css-d] XHTML or not?

2010-11-10 Thread Gabriele Romanato

Hi John.
Using XHTML today's like riding a dead horse. XHTML will no longer be  
developed, at least in a reasonable time span. The fact is that XHTML  
was designed to be served as application/xhtml+xml in order to make it  
interact with other markup languages, such as SVG, MathML and SMIL.  
The problem is that IE doesn't support this mime type. The latest  
update from MS claims that IE9 will support it, but without checking  
if a document is well-formed or not. That is, MS seems to ignore even  
the most basic rule of XML. So, if you want my little piece of advice,  
start getting used to HTML5. I'm not saying that you should use all  
its elements, but only to take the habit of writing HTML5 documents.  
You'll find out that HTML5 is really like HTML4, but with a lot of  
improvements. bye :-)


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Re: [css-d] selected link colour problem

2010-11-10 Thread Lisa Frost
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Shawn Lawler lawl0...@umn.edu wrote:

 Lisa,

 Your selector:
 #sidemainmenu a:visited

 is stronger than:
 #sidemainmenu .currentpage

 You could bump the strength of your .currentpage selector like so (there
 are other ways as well):
 #sidemainmenu a.currentpage

 Cheers,
 Shawn

 doh, knew it would be something simple.
Won't forget that one in a hurry again.
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[css-d] Is this dumb?

2010-11-10 Thread David McGlone
Hi all,

I've been working on this layout: (w/screenshots from browsershots)
http://www.dmcentral.net/misc and I can't figure out why in IE 8 the whole 
body shifts to the left about 5 pixels and cuts some of the left side off 
according to browserlab.

In IE 7 according to browserlab the body shifts even more to the left than 
IE8 and also shifts the top bar to the right making it flush with the wrapper. 
and in IE 6 with browserlab I get a completly blank page.

Finally, with browsershots, IE7 looks correct except the top bar is still 
shifted to the right. In IE8 I got a completly blank page and in IE6 I get the 
same behavior as IE 7.

Finally my question. Is there a reason I'm getting this odd behavior with the 
screenshot services and I've also been wondering if this is a dumb way to do 
this. It dawned on me I could go with a 4 column layout, but the drawback is 
in order to get the image at the top to span the whole screen, I'd have to add 
it to each of the 4 div's. to me it seems unnecessary.

2nd finally ;-) I can't figure out why this simple layout isn't working.

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[css-d] Internal site links handled in print style sheet

2010-11-10 Thread Keith Purtell
I'm using this CSS ...

a[href^=http://]:after {
content:  (online at: attr(href));
}

...to handle links to external sites when a visitor prints one of my
pages. However, I occasionally refer to related pages within my own
site/file directory. Not sure how to handle these links in the print.css
style sheet.

- Keith Purtell


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Re: [css-d] Is this dumb?

2010-11-10 Thread David McGlone
On Wednesday, November 10, 2010 08:00:24 pm David Laakso wrote:
 On 11/10/10 7:34 PM, David McGlone wrote:
  2nd finally ;-) I can't figure out why this simple layout isn't working.
 
 Cut to the chase.
 Put the html/css file [s] on a public server and provide a clickable
 link to it in your post.

LOL I got chewed out for asking this same question and was told to look at the 
source, so I assumed everybody did it this way. sorry about that.

here ya go http://www.dmcentral.net/include/style/default.css

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Re: [css-d] Is this dumb?

2010-11-10 Thread David Laakso

On 11/10/10 7:34 PM, David McGlone wrote:


2nd finally ;-) I can't figure out why this simple layout isn't working.



Cut to the chase.
Put the html/css file [s] on a public server and provide a clickable 
link to it in your post.

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Re: [css-d] Is this dumb?

2010-11-10 Thread David McGlone
On Wednesday, November 10, 2010 08:12:59 pm David McGlone wrote:
 On Wednesday, November 10, 2010 08:00:24 pm David Laakso wrote:
  On 11/10/10 7:34 PM, David McGlone wrote:
   2nd finally ;-) I can't figure out why this simple layout isn't
   working.
  
  Cut to the chase.
  Put the html/css file [s] on a public server and provide a clickable
  link to it in your post.
 
 LOL I got chewed out for asking this same question and was told to look at
 the source, so I assumed everybody did it this way. sorry about that.
 
 here ya go http://www.dmcentral.net/include/style/default.css

Oh jz this isn't my night!!

http://www.dmcentral.net/misc/include/style/default.css

I need a vacation!!!

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Re: [css-d] Is this dumb? UPDATE

2010-11-10 Thread David McGlone
On Wednesday, November 10, 2010 07:34:11 pm David McGlone wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I've been working on this layout: (w/screenshots from browsershots)
 http://www.dmcentral.net/misc and I can't figure out why in IE 8 the whole
 body shifts to the left about 5 pixels and cuts some of the left side off
 according to browserlab.
 
 In IE 7 according to browserlab the body shifts even more to the left
 than IE8 and also shifts the top bar to the right making it flush with the
 wrapper. and in IE 6 with browserlab I get a completly blank page.
 
 Finally, with browsershots, IE7 looks correct except the top bar is still
 shifted to the right. In IE8 I got a completly blank page and in IE6 I get
 the same behavior as IE 7.
 
 Finally my question. Is there a reason I'm getting this odd behavior with
 the screenshot services and I've also been wondering if this is a dumb way
 to do this. It dawned on me I could go with a 4 column layout, but the
 drawback is in order to get the image at the top to span the whole screen,
 I'd have to add it to each of the 4 div's. to me it seems unnecessary.
 
 2nd finally ;-) I can't figure out why this simple layout isn't working.

After I sent this e-mail, I used browserlab and checked the layout that I had 
uploaded to my website and I am getting the correct behavior in IE 7 and IE 8, 
but still getting a blank page with IE 6. :-(

 I have no idea why my local copy looks like crap. It may have something to do 
with me switching from cable internet to DSL today.

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Re: [css-d] Is this dumb? UPDATE

2010-11-10 Thread David McGlone
On Wednesday, November 10, 2010 07:55:43 pm David McGlone wrote:
 On Wednesday, November 10, 2010 07:34:11 pm David McGlone wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I've been working on this layout: (w/screenshots from browsershots)
  http://www.dmcentral.net/misc and I can't figure out why in IE 8 the
  whole body shifts to the left about 5 pixels and cuts some of the left
  side off according to browserlab.
  
  In IE 7 according to browserlab the body shifts even more to the left
  than IE8 and also shifts the top bar to the right making it flush with
  the wrapper. and in IE 6 with browserlab I get a completly blank page.
  
  Finally, with browsershots, IE7 looks correct except the top bar is still
  shifted to the right. In IE8 I got a completly blank page and in IE6 I
  get the same behavior as IE 7.
  
  Finally my question. Is there a reason I'm getting this odd behavior with
  the screenshot services and I've also been wondering if this is a dumb
  way to do this. It dawned on me I could go with a 4 column layout, but
  the drawback is in order to get the image at the top to span the whole
  screen, I'd have to add it to each of the 4 div's. to me it seems
  unnecessary.
  
  2nd finally ;-) I can't figure out why this simple layout isn't working.
 
 After I sent this e-mail, I used browserlab and checked the layout that I
 had uploaded to my website and I am getting the correct behavior in IE 7
 and IE 8, but still getting a blank page with IE 6. :-(
 
  I have no idea why my local copy looks like crap. It may have something to
 do with me switching from cable internet to DSL today.

This wasn't the case. I hooked up my cable because they haven't turned it off 
yet and I'm getting the same results.
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[css-d] Spries

2010-11-10 Thread Ada Elgavish
Hello,



In Dreamweaver (Live View), the spry looks exactly as I want it to look. When I 
upload the file and the Spry assets to the server, the webpage displays in the 
browser as a list instead of the cool spry. See at: 
http://138.26.120.126/CAMAC/Trial21.html



Could you help?



Thanks.



Ada




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Re: [css-d] Spries

2010-11-10 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Your css file is here:
http://138.26.120.126/CAMAC/SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarVertical.css

But you link to:
http://138.26.120.126/SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarVertical.css

via link href=../SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarVertical.css rel=stylesheet
type=text/css /

Try:

link href=/CAMAC/SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarVertical.css rel=stylesheet
type=text/css /

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 -Original Message-
 From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:css-d-
 boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Ada Elgavish
 Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:33 PM
 To: David Laakso; css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
 Subject: [css-d] Spries
 
 Hello,
 
 
 
 In Dreamweaver (Live View), the spry looks exactly as I want it to
 look. When I upload the file and the Spry assets to the server, the
 webpage displays in the browser as a list instead of the cool spry. See
 at: http://138.26.120.126/CAMAC/Trial21.html
 
 
 
 Could you help?
 
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 Ada
 
 
 
 
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