Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Hakan Kirkan
Using !DOCTYPE HTML breaks Canvas in IE8 -- Hakan Kirkan IT Manager Dominor LLC / Miami http://dominor.com On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg webdesig...@rarpsl.com wrote: At 16:57 -0400 on 08/01/2012, Tedd Sperling wrote about Re: [css-d] on html

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-08-02 12:31, Hakan Kirkan wrote: Using !DOCTYPE HTML breaks Canvas in IE8 If it does, that would not be a CSS issue, would it? Jukka __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org]

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Jukka K. Korpela
2012-08-02 4:11, Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Le 2 août 2012 à 06:03, Josh Rehman a écrit : And, actually the uppercase DOCTYPE is important as I've run into problems with the lowercase version in some browsers. That sounds weird. Can you clarify which browsers are affected ? By XML rules,

Re: [css-d] Floating boxes with variable heights

2012-08-02 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 28.07.2012 13:58 schrieb Georg: On 28.07.2012 13:29, Markus Ernst wrote: http://www.rapid.ch/de/rapid-einachsgeraete/prospekte.html The headings here match the width of 3 image elements plus borders and the 2 margins between them. With space characters added to the margins, the width cannot

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Rob Crowther
On 02/08/2012 10:31, Hakan Kirkan wrote: Using !DOCTYPE HTML breaks Canvas in IE8 IE8 doesn't support canvas. Rob __ css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Rob Crowther
On 02/08/2012 04:39, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: First is that while browsers may not actually use the referenced DTD (the http... clause), they do parse the HTML based on the DOCTYPE html PUBLIC... clause and treat the HTML differently based on what you declare. No, they don't. It is used

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Rob Crowther wrote: Browsers have never used DOCTYPES, therefore the validation of whether or not a document conforms (or not) to a DOCTYPE has no impact on whether or not a browser will correctly parse, interpret or display it. I think that is an over-simplification, and one that is

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread David Hucklesby
On 8/1/12 8:39 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 16:57 -0400 on 08/01/2012, Tedd Sperling wrote about Re: [css-d] on html and css versions: What is wrong with using? !DOCTYPE html Sure it doesn't have a *real* DTD, but the W3C validator does somehow validate pages that have this DOCTYPE

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Rob Crowther
On 02/08/2012 17:02, Philip TAYLOR wrote: I think that is an over-simplification, and one that is misleading if it gets into the wrong hands. Not really, otherwise tricks like having a DOCTYPE without a DTD wouldn't work. The problem is that different browsers (or even different versions

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Rob Crowther wrote: On 02/08/2012 17:02, Philip TAYLOR wrote: I think that is an over-simplification, and one that is misleading if it gets into the wrong hands. Not really, otherwise tricks like having a DOCTYPE without a DTD wouldn't work. I respectfully disagree. My assertion was

Re: [css-d] @font-face: Buggy implementations in Firefox and Opera?

2012-08-02 Thread Markus Ernst
Am 04.05.2012 01:23 schrieb Philippe Wittenbergh: Le May 4, 2012 à 12:26 AM, Markus Ernst a écrit : I used web fonts from Fonts.com for the first time, in a website that is both in German and Russian. As Fonts.com serves not only bold and italic variants, but also the latin-1 and cyrillic

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Rob Crowther
On 02/08/12 18:49, Philip TAYLOR wrote: that if a page validates against the DTD given in the DOCTYPE directive, then it is more likely to be parsed and rendered correctly than if it does not. OK, then define parsed and rendered correctly. Or, put another way: where is the parsing process

Re: [css-d] collapsed border table issue

2012-08-02 Thread John
On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Jukka K. Korpela wrote: A clumsy workaround… table { border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0; } th, td { border: 1px dotted black; border-top-width: 0; border-left-width: 0; } tr:first-child th, tr:first-child td

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Rob Crowther wrote: OK, then define parsed and rendered correctly. Exactly as you meant it in your earlier message : whether or not a browser will correctly parse, interpret or display it. Or, put another way: where is the parsing process for a text file conforming to HTML4's DTD

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Rob Crowther
On 02/08/12 19:40, Philip TAYLOR wrote: Exactly as you meant it in your earlier message : I meant it as defined in the HTML5 specification. You're apparently disallowing that, so I wanted to know what your definition was. The specification for the parsing process for HTML 4.01 is directly

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Rob Crowther wrote: On 02/08/12 19:40, Philip TAYLOR wrote: Exactly as you meant it in your earlier message : I meant it as defined in the HTML5 specification. You're apparently disallowing that, so I wanted to know what your definition was. How things are defined the HTML 5 Draft

Re: [css-d] on html and css versions

2012-08-02 Thread Rob Crowther
On 02/08/12 20:50, Philip TAYLOR wrote: How things are defined the HTML 5 Draft specification is relevant only to HTML 5; since we are discussing documents that specify a DTD in their DOCTYPE directive, that clearly rules out documents coded to the HTML 5 Draft specification. No, it defines

[css-d] Problem with usemap in Fire Fox

2012-08-02 Thread Richard Wendrock Forum
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