Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello

[Donna Jones]

This hiatus and its lack of observance has led me to wonder about the
utility of css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue.


First of all Eric, thank you for this list and all your css-expertise 
and time.


i don't do much w/ this list but i would be very sad to see it 
disappear, its the very first place i would turn to if help was needed.


i do still read messages and learn from others' issues, and i think 
that's one of the main benefits of a list like this.  also, its very 
accessible in my email, every message goes right to the folder and then 
they're all threaded 


i don't know how much time it takes for you Eric to be the "list 
mother".  i subscribe also to WiseWomen (Dori Smith is the list mother 
there) and it feels that that list is pretty much operating 
automatically but it is set up more broadly, meaning we can talk about 
pretty much anything as long as its web related so there isn't much need 
to keep things "on point".  (we have a separate "talk" list.)


anyhoo, hope you keep it going but if not, i'm sure everyone will 
understand and appreciate all your years of work here.


best
Donna


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Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello

[Tim Dawson]

Hello Eric,

I had missed the list, but like many others didn't know what to do about it. Eventually I 
e-mailed Tom Livingstone, and found he was in a similar position.


I would be sorry to see the list depart. It has several advantages over its 
'rivals':
1. Response is incredibly quick
2. Respondents are keen to help, not to deride one's 'ignorance' or score points
3. The advice is relevant
4. It's more accessible (no browser required).

Ultimately the decision is yours, of course. I have no idea how much of your time it takes. 
Maybe it can be left to run itself much of the time, and we can all do our share of keeping 
stuff on topic etc.


Best Wishes,

Tim Dawson



On 23/12/2015 20:35, Eric A. Meyer wrote:

Hi, everyone,

So apparently the list software died back in October, and none of us really 
noticed until
this month.  Or, if people noticed, nobody mentioned it until this month.  It 
took a while to
get in touch with someone who could get the software restarted, but I'm told 
it's back up.  If
you're reading this, then yes, it's back up.
This hiatus and its lack of observance has led me to wonder about the 
utility of
css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue.  There are a lot of other venues 
for discussing
CSS these days, and most of the reason for this list existing-- to help people 
figure out how
CSS worked, and fix problems-- is covered much more compellingly by sites like 
StackOverflow.
The resources that used to support css-d, like the public archive and the wiki, 
have fallen into
disuse or disrepair over the years.  In general, there's a faded feeling here, 
at least for me.
Thus, I'm now pondering three courses of action:

1. Shut down the list.  To all good things, etc.  This obviously abandons 
those who still
prize having a mailing list, but that number seems very small.  Almost all the 
discussion in the
months leading up to the hiatus was conducted between a small number of 
subscribers.  Of course,
a new list could be started by someone else.
2. Hand the list off to someone else, to guide as they see fit. This 
involves the very
difficult task of finding someone who's interested, and making a good choice.  
This is the least
appealing of the three, honestly, because of the possibility of getting things 
wrong.
3. Convert the list from "Practical discussions of CSS and its use" to more 
general
discussion about anything CSS-related.  That would include theoretical musings, 
discussion of
what CSS should or shouldn't be, where it should go in the future, the general 
theory of CSS,
and so on.  I'm less inclined to go this route, as there are other places to 
grapple with the
deeper issues of CSS (like www-style, not to mention blogs and social media).

At this point, perhaps due to pride and ego but perhaps simply due to feeling 
that the time has
come, I'm leaning toward option 1.  January 24, 2016, will be the 14th 
anniversary of the list.
That leaves a month to either settle on a different course of action, or else 
to plan a shutdown.
If anyone has strong feelings that it should be one of the other two 
options, or a fourth
option I didn't list, feel free to let me know off-list.  I may not be able to 
respond to every
message, but I will read them all.  I expect to make a final decision on or 
before January 10,
2016.  Whatever I decide, I'll announce it here.

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Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello

[Isabel Santos]

Dear Eric,

first of all, tank you so mutch for your css-d work all this years.

I've been using the list on and off over its existence (my web work is
intermitent, so I need refreshes and upadates from time to time, but
reading about doubts others find is a great way to get speed up updating
curves).

I do confess I've not been contributing anything in this last years, my
time is getting shorter, and the idea of loosing one more excelent web
resource simply makes me feel guilty.
All I can say about that is that not participating in the discussions is
not the same as unsubscribing. I still read the list, mostly in batches.

Mailing lists are getting "out of fashion", all other web design lists I
subscribed have already died out (I still miss the web standards list), and
it makes me sad.

I do like new things, but some of the older ones just do not have good
enough substitutes.
As for other platforms, they are requirering more and more data from
subscribers and even passers by, and I do care a lot for my privacy. That
is why, for instance, I do not have a StackOverflow login. Newer is not
always better.
Also, some of the many other css resources out there, speacilly some famous
blogs, are really good looking, easy to find, and with a lot of
functionality, but lack in content quality and accuracy.

So if you are wondering about the utility of css-discuss, and whether it
needs to continue, at least for me it reatains its usefulness and makes all
the sense to keep it.

As for your pondering points, the first one sounds really frightening. For
the second, one would require some luck; I do not see myself as constant or
relliable enough to volunteer - all I could do woukd be to promisse to
parcicipate more for a while, wich is certainly not what would be needed.
By parts exclusion, it seams to me the third point deserves some
consideration...

(would it work something like a "please, please, I beg of you, do not let
it die"?)


:)
All the best,
Merry Christmas,

isabel



On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Angela French  wrote:

> I missed it.  I posted a few times over the last few months but didn't
> know what the issue was.  I have always appreciated the vast experience of
> the people on this list.  More than once someone helped me out of a
> pickle.  In addition, I would often read threads that didn't necessarily
> have any connection to a current issue I was fretting over, but the subject
> line caught my attention as something worth reading.  This list has
> definitely contributed to my cSS knowledge over the years.  I hope it keeps
> going.
>
> Angela French
> WA State Board for Community and Technical Colleges
>
> -Original Message-
> From: css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org [mailto:
> css-d-boun...@lists.css-discuss.org] On Behalf Of Eric A. Meyer
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:35 PM
> To: CSS-D Discuss
> Subject: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello
>
> Hi, everyone,
>
> So apparently the list software died back in October, and none of us
> really noticed until this month.  Or, if people noticed, nobody mentioned
> it until this month.  It took a while to get in touch with someone who
> could get the software restarted, but I'm told it's back up.
>   If you're reading this, then yes, it's back up.
> This hiatus and its lack of observance has led me to wonder about the
> utility of css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue.  There are a lot
> of other venues for discussing CSS these days, and most of the reason for
> this list existing-- to help people figure out how CSS worked, and fix
> problems-- is covered much more compellingly by sites like StackOverflow.
> The resources that used to support css-d, like the public archive and the
> wiki, have fallen into disuse or disrepair over the years.  In general,
> there's a faded feeling here, at least for me.
> Thus, I'm now pondering three courses of action:
>
> 1. Shut down the list.  To all good things, etc.  This obviously
> abandons those who still prize having a mailing list, but that number seems
> very small.  Almost all the discussion in the months leading up to the
> hiatus was conducted between a small number of subscribers.  Of course, a
> new list could be started by someone else.
> 2. Hand the list off to someone else, to guide as they see fit.
> This involves the very difficult task of finding someone who's interested,
> and making a good choice.  This is the least appealing of the three,
> honestly, because of the possibility of getting things wrong.
> 3. Convert the list from "Practical discussions of CSS and its use"
> to more general discussion about anything CSS-related.  That would include
> theoretical musings, discussion of what CSS should or shouldn't be, where
> it should go in the future, the general theory of CSS, and so on.  I'm less
> inclined to go this route, as there are other places to grapple with the
> deeper issues of CSS (like www-style, not to mention 

Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello

[Del Wegener]

I have subscribed to this list for 10 or 12 years and have learned a lot 
from all of the friendly experts.  The nature of my work takes me away 
from web development for long periods of time and then dumps me back 
into it. During the absence I will have forgotten a lot and tools (CSS, 
HTML, JavaScript, etc) have moved on without me.  A list like this is 
extremely valuable in the necessary review and catch-up.  I hope there 
is some way to keep it functioning as it has for all these years.

Del

On 12/23/2015 2:35 PM, Eric A. Meyer wrote:

Hi, everyone,

So apparently the list software died back in October, and none of us
really noticed until this month.  Or, if people noticed, nobody
mentioned it until this month.  It took a while to get in touch with
someone who could get the software restarted, but I'm told it's back up.
  If you're reading this, then yes, it's back up.
This hiatus and its lack of observance has led me to wonder about
the utility of css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue.  There are
a lot of other venues for discussing CSS these days, and most of the
reason for this list existing-- to help people figure out how CSS
worked, and fix problems-- is covered much more compellingly by sites
like StackOverflow.  The resources that used to support css-d, like the
public archive and the wiki, have fallen into disuse or disrepair over
the years.  In general, there's a faded feeling here, at least for me.
Thus, I'm now pondering three courses of action:

1. Shut down the list.  To all good things, etc.  This obviously
abandons those who still prize having a mailing list, but that number
seems very small.  Almost all the discussion in the months leading up to
the hiatus was conducted between a small number of subscribers.  Of
course, a new list could be started by someone else.
2. Hand the list off to someone else, to guide as they see fit. This
involves the very difficult task of finding someone who's interested,
and making a good choice.  This is the least appealing of the three,
honestly, because of the possibility of getting things wrong.
3. Convert the list from "Practical discussions of CSS and its use"
to more general discussion about anything CSS-related.  That would
include theoretical musings, discussion of what CSS should or shouldn't
be, where it should go in the future, the general theory of CSS, and so
on.  I'm less inclined to go this route, as there are other places to
grapple with the deeper issues of CSS (like www-style, not to mention
blogs and social media).

At this point, perhaps due to pride and ego but perhaps simply due to
feeling that the time has come, I'm leaning toward option 1.  January
24, 2016, will be the 14th anniversary of the list.  That leaves a month
to either settle on a different course of action, or else to plan a
shutdown.
If anyone has strong feelings that it should be one of the other two
options, or a fourth option I didn't list, feel free to let me know
off-list.  I may not be able to respond to every message, but I will
read them all.  I expect to make a final decision on or before January
10, 2016.  Whatever I decide, I'll announce it here.

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Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello

[Geoff Lane]

On Thursday, December 24, 2015, 7:19:14 PM, Del Wegener wrote:

> I have subscribed to this list for 10 or 12 years and have learned a lot
> from all of the friendly experts.  The nature of my work takes me away
> from web development for long periods of time and then dumps me back 
> into it. During the absence I will have forgotten a lot and tools (CSS,
> HTML, JavaScript, etc) have moved on without me.  A list like this is 
> extremely valuable in the necessary review and catch-up.  I hope there
> is some way to keep it functioning as it has for all these years.
> Del

This is pretty much my situation. I sit on the side, archiving all the
pearls of wisdom, until the next time I find myself delivering HTML,
CSS, PHP, JavaScript, etc. Right now, I'm delivering almost all my
stuff in Microsoft Office formats but, when I next need to deliver a
documentation suite via an intranet, this list becomes invaluable. I
too hope it can be kept functioning.

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Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 156, Issue 1

[sr nyc]

p.s. and thank you also to all the members who have been so generous with
their time and expertise over the years in contributing to the list

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:04 AM, sr nyc  wrote:

> Mr. Meyer,
>
> The list has been an invaluable resource for so many years (possibly the
> first such list I've subbed to), and I've no doubt hundreds if not
> thousands would agree. Selfishly, though I spend less time with it than I
> used to, I would like to see it remain, but then I have no idea what time
> and resources are demanded of whomever would operate/admin. Whatever you
> decide, I'll take this opportunity to say a huge, long overdue 'thank you'
> - not only for css-discuss but for your stewardship in the css community
> since day one.
>
> Cheers!
>
> sr
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 8:51 PM, 
> wrote:
>
>> Send css-d mailing list submissions to
>> css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> http://lists.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> css-d-requ...@lists.css-discuss.org
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> css-d-ow...@lists.css-discuss.org
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of css-d digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>1. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>>2. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Tom Livingston)
>>3. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>>4. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Tom Livingston)
>>5. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>>6. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Tom Livingston)
>>7. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>>8. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Tom Livingston)
>>9. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>>   10. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Philip Taylor)
>>   11. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>>   12. Directories on server as Project ? (Crest Christopher)
>>   13. Re: Directories on server as Project ? (Tom Livingston)
>>   14. [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello (Eric A. Meyer)
>>   15. Re: [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello (Greg Gamble)
>>   16. Re: [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello (Angela French)
>>   17. Re: [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello (Tom Livingston)
>>   18. Re: [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello (Kathy Wheeler)
>>   19. list life (Leslie Albuquerque)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:04:44 -0400
>> From: Crest Christopher 
>> To: Tom Livingston 
>> Cc: MiB ,CSS-D Discuss
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [css-d] iPhone difference 5 & 5c ?
>> Message-ID: <561e7d1c.30...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>
>> The opera mini I use on my phone displays the page fine, besides it's
>> problem rendering some pseudo-elements, other then that.
>>
>> It may be iPhone5 c is only 640px width in resolution, how can I solve
>> this if I can't emulate a webkit on an iPhone 5 and 5c & 5s, which at
>> this point besides iPod touch are my only problem devices, arghh.
>>
>> Tom Livingston wrote:
>> >
>> > Other than Opera Mini, you cannot run any other rendering engine on an
>> > iOS device other than the installed Webkit.
>> >
>> > My suggestion is to not build the page so it is dependent on pixel
>> > widths - at least not to the extent that a 1 pixel difference breaks
>> > your page. Yikes!
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Crest Christopher
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The only solution I can think of is since the problem is with Safari
>> >> using
>> >> WebKit engine is if it's possible to switch between webkit and blink ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> MiB wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> okt 14 2015 01:28 Crest Christopher:
>> >>>
>> 
>>  What if you don't have an iPhone or a Mac to begin with, there is no
>>  other options besides Chrome, or am I wrong ?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Xcode has iphone emulation . I haven?t applied it recently, but I
>> think
>> >>> you can run it separately from the coding in Xcode. I did this at some
>> >>> point, but I don?t remember the set up and it should have been changed
>> >>> now..I use Bluestacks for Android.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> __
>> >>> css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org]
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>> >>
>> >> 

Re: [css-d] css-d Digest, Vol 156, Issue 1

[sr nyc]

Mr. Meyer,

The list has been an invaluable resource for so many years (possibly the
first such list I've subbed to), and I've no doubt hundreds if not
thousands would agree. Selfishly, though I spend less time with it than I
used to, I would like to see it remain, but then I have no idea what time
and resources are demanded of whomever would operate/admin. Whatever you
decide, I'll take this opportunity to say a huge, long overdue 'thank you'
- not only for css-discuss but for your stewardship in the css community
since day one.

Cheers!

sr

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 8:51 PM, 
wrote:

> Send css-d mailing list submissions to
> css-d@lists.css-discuss.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://lists.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> css-d-requ...@lists.css-discuss.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> css-d-ow...@lists.css-discuss.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of css-d digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>1. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>2. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Tom Livingston)
>3. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>4. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Tom Livingston)
>5. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>6. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Tom Livingston)
>7. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>8. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Tom Livingston)
>9. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>   10. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Philip Taylor)
>   11. Re: iPhone difference 5 & 5c ? (Crest Christopher)
>   12. Directories on server as Project ? (Crest Christopher)
>   13. Re: Directories on server as Project ? (Tom Livingston)
>   14. [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello (Eric A. Meyer)
>   15. Re: [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello (Greg Gamble)
>   16. Re: [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello (Angela French)
>   17. Re: [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello (Tom Livingston)
>   18. Re: [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello (Kathy Wheeler)
>   19. list life (Leslie Albuquerque)
>
>
> --
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 12:04:44 -0400
> From: Crest Christopher 
> To: Tom Livingston 
> Cc: MiB ,CSS-D Discuss
> 
> Subject: Re: [css-d] iPhone difference 5 & 5c ?
> Message-ID: <561e7d1c.30...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> The opera mini I use on my phone displays the page fine, besides it's
> problem rendering some pseudo-elements, other then that.
>
> It may be iPhone5 c is only 640px width in resolution, how can I solve
> this if I can't emulate a webkit on an iPhone 5 and 5c & 5s, which at
> this point besides iPod touch are my only problem devices, arghh.
>
> Tom Livingston wrote:
> >
> > Other than Opera Mini, you cannot run any other rendering engine on an
> > iOS device other than the installed Webkit.
> >
> > My suggestion is to not build the page so it is dependent on pixel
> > widths - at least not to the extent that a 1 pixel difference breaks
> > your page. Yikes!
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Crest Christopher
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> The only solution I can think of is since the problem is with Safari
> >> using
> >> WebKit engine is if it's possible to switch between webkit and blink ?
> >>
> >>
> >> MiB wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> okt 14 2015 01:28 Crest Christopher:
> >>>
> 
>  What if you don't have an iPhone or a Mac to begin with, there is no
>  other options besides Chrome, or am I wrong ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Xcode has iphone emulation . I haven?t applied it recently, but I think
> >>> you can run it separately from the coding in Xcode. I did this at some
> >>> point, but I don?t remember the set up and it should have been changed
> >>> now..I use Bluestacks for Android.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> __
> >>> css-discuss [css-d@lists.css-discuss.org]
> >>> http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
> 

Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello

[Yolanda van Nieuwkoop]

I am reading on this list, and learning and finding it very valuable.

I have missed it.

there have been some suggestions in this thread to keep it going.
Maybe there is a volunteer to help?
greetings
Yolanda



2015-12-24 4:33 GMT+01:00 J.C. Berry :
> +1 on Karl's opinion and suggestion.
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Karl DeSaulniers 
> wrote:

>> +1
>>
>> 4th option
>>
>> This list is invaluable. I have watched people grow in understanding and
>> experience here. To go away now would be a real shame IMO. Not to burden
>> you with any extra work, but you need to start a JavaScript list too. This
>> type of interaction on things is what's invaluable. You don't get the same
>> on Stack because everyone is worried about points. Here it's just real
>> help. Please don't go.
>>
>> Best,
>> Karl DeSaulniers
>> Design Drumm

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Re: [css-d] [ADMIN] Hello, my friends, hello

[Philippe Wittenbergh]

> On Dec 24, 2015, at 05:35, Eric A. Meyer  wrote:
> 
> This hiatus and its lack of observance has led me to wonder about the utility 
> of css-discuss, and whether it needs to continue. 

As an early subscriber (my archives go back to early February 2002!), I would 
be sad to see this list disappear. The community is immensely more valuable and 
friendly than StackOverflow and the like.

That said, I understand your reasons for being not much more than lukewarm 
towards continuing to maintain this list alive. Traffic has been slowing down 
over the past 18 months or so. Stackoverflow, Github and some forums have a 
better perceived value to people.

Option 2 is a variant on an hypothetical option 4 voiced by some: keep the list 
alive, but under new management. Ok, maybe ? Does such a potential saviour 
exist?

Your option 3 would be … interesting. Over the past few months I’ve come to 
some realisation that there is a need for an alternative space (to www-style) 
to discuss the deeper issues of CSS. I don’t really now (yet ?) what that 
should be and how to bring it to life, though.

At any rate, thank you, Eric, for starting this run and maintaining it over the 
years!

Philippe
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